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Been playing around a few ideas in my head last couple of hours.
Don't tell my boss! Draft 1 Trade Ivory to jets for a5th 1 Desmond Trufant CB 3 C. Faulk/B. Jones/T. Armstead LOT 4 J Kruger/W. Gholston/Devin Taylor DE 5 Bruce Taylor/AJ Klein(ILB) or Michael Buchanan/Quinterious Smith(OLB) 5 K.Geathers/M Hughes NT 6 Marques Wilson/Tavaris King WR Or Trade 15th pick to Bengals for both seconds(Raiders) and there 5th And Ivory Jets 5th 2 Datone Jones/S.Williams/J Hankins DE 2 Kennan Allen/Robert Woods WR 3 C. Faulk/B. Jones/T. Armstead OT 4 L McFadden/BJ Webb CB 5 Jordan Mills/David Queensberry OT 5 Bruce Taylor/AJ Klein(ILB) or Michael Buchanan/Quinterious Smith(OLB) 5 K.Geathers/M Hughes NT 6 Marques Wilson/Tavaris King WR |
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Sheldon Richardson can be an excellent "five" technique defensive tackle - that would be a 3-4 Defensive End...
He had a great year on a Missouri team that struggled in its first year in the SEC... Have two view points on him: Did he have a great year, stats at the expense of other defenders? Defensive Lineman also "block", occupy, control point of attack of offensive lineman so linebackers, safeties can make counter plays (i.e. tackles, blitzs, stunts, sacks, forced fumbles); some defenders (i.e. Warren Sapp) were quick smaller big men who made a career of shooting gaps and hoping to anticipate correctly; now guess what happened when they were wrong - usually their teammates got "blasted" and runs like Jamal Lewis going up the one hole for a 80 yard sprint across the goal line were the result... Second, does he have the size to secure his "end" of the line? His motor and quickness or undeniable; but can he carry the bulk and display the strength to disrupt, alter, shift what an offense is trying to do... Personally, I prefer him to Dion or even Iggy... |
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2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter 2(21) DL Jesse Williams 3(13) OLB Jamie Collins 4(16) OL Barrett Jones 5(8) OT Chris Faulk 5(16) S TJ McDonald 5(23) NT TJ Barnes 6(15) TE Joseph Fauria |
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Sheldon Richardson wahoo one year wonder boy with his panties of hype. stinkie pooh pass
Iggy scares the heck of me more than any of them. talk about bust or boom. he gets my crown for the 2013 NFL Draft followed closely by Mingo Dion if i had to draft on hype he gets the pick. |
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...There are those who think Notre Dame LB Manti Te’o would be a fit for the Saints with the 15th pick (New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com)... NEAUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX!!! |
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2(5) CB David Amerson or WR Justin Hunter 2(21) OLB Jamie Collins 3(13) OL Barrett Jones 4(16) OT Chris Faulk 5(8) 5(16) S TJ McDonald 5(23) NT TJ Barnes 6(15) TE Joseph Fauria fill in the blank if we are waiting to the fifth for NT i would probably dbl draft a DT/DE in the fifth. |
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I would certainly dust off the old altar for a few sacrifices in order to make this draft happen. |
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Godsmack's first album back in the day was a good one, but I haven't really been able to get that excited about any of their records since then.
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2013 Saint's Draft Mock (JeanPierre) [Updated 2013/04/19] R1(15) LB Alec Ogletree, University of Georgia R2 Forfeit R3(75) OT David Quessenberry, San José State University R4(109) OL Barrett Jones, University of Alabama R5(144) DE Joe Kruger, University of Utah R6(183) FS Cody Davis, Texas Tech University :bng: |
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Anyone surprised at these totals...
14 Offensive Tackle 12.96% 30 Defensive End 27.78% 22 Outside Linebacker 20.37% 18 Defensive End 16.67% 9 Safety 8.33% 15 Cornerback 13.89% |
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Nearly 44% see the DLine as the biggest need... Outside Linebacker is at another 20%... Though there are different view points on how to solve the problem, the Pass Rush is Mission Critical for the Saints... |
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I just voted for the OT because I usually pull for the under dog. The more I'm thinking about our defense, the better I'm feeling about it.
Dammit, missed the safety. About time for Oak to tell me the glass is not half full again. |
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My worry is still the pass rush...
I just don't see some of these smallish defensive ends contributing, making the team for that matter... We get a good solid pass rush, we buy some time to get the safeties replaced... |
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A good portion of those votes were cast before the switch to 3-4, so they're really not that representative - and there's also the error of listing DE twice without the option for a DT. I know I voted DE, although I would've wanted to vote DT and this was based on the 4-3 alignment. |
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In the CBS mock draft consisting of Rob Rang, Dane Brugler, Pat Kirwan, and Pete Prisco, the earliest they have Bjoern Werner (Kirwan's pick) picked is at #17 by the Steelers. Is there something I'm missing? I thought that Werner was regarded as the one the safest picks in this draft.
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I can't believe how Damontre Moore is falling. If he were wind up a Saint, I'd be very happy. I don't care how he's tested out... the man knows how to play football.
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I disagree. The only reason why he's dropping is because of his physical traits. On film against the top level of collegiate competition, he was outstanding. I'd take him any day all day against a guy who a shoddy tract record against mediocre competition. For guys like Moore, you can take that 40 time and throw it out the window.
Too much is put in stock of these guys personal workouts. Never in their life in football are they going against no one. While it's great for eye candy stats, for me, I'm more concerned and I put more importance on what these guys have done on the football field. Vernon Gholston says hi to everybody. |
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First, actually thought ReRun and Duane-wayne could talk Rodge into giving us back our second rounder - d'oh! Second, surprised that several on list are still there, even if some are in different spots... Third, even if it is a seventh rounder - am really p/o how poorly the Saints front office values, manages draft picks... Finally, if we stay in the first round, I don't want to risk not drafting Ogletree; if we can gain two second rounders from either Cincy or Miami, then I'm fine with letting geaux the first rounder, but I'd just as soon sit at fifteen and put that Black and Gold Jersey on Ogletree... Now, I'd love to get creative and do to the Jets what their trying to do to the Bucs trade for a second, sixth round pick(s) for Ivory, Harper... |
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When a player is balling at a very high level, above his athleticism, at the college level in big games- while I appreciate hard play as much as anyone - NFL Scouts, Coaches have to ask "Can this guy do this every down, where talent is deep on every roster?" Think on the Reggie Bush Lesson - in college, Reggie had big games against big talent, but in the NFL everyone's big and as fast, including the waterboys - and Reggie stubbornly struggled to adjust his game... You really have to consider the ceilings of these guys when drafting and that's why I'd question their game in the NFL... |
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2013 Saint's Draft Mock (JeanPierre) [Updated 2013/04/21] R1 (15) LB Alec Ogletree, University of Georgia R2 Forfeit R3 (72) Jaime Collins, University of Southern Mississippi (from NYJ) R3 (75) OT David Quessenberry, San José State University R4 (109) OL Barrett Jones, University of Alabama R5 (144) DE Joe Kruger, University of Utah R6 (183) FS Cody Davis, Texas Tech University :bng: |
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they all flunked the evening gown and swimsuit portion of the pre draft competition.
yet another reason to use water proof makeup i guess its all due to over hype players by the media. thats why they are like baseball players batting average of .300 and they are kings. alot of swings and miss. go with tape |
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Should we stay at 15, I like...
LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri CB Desmond Trufant, Washington DT Sylvester Williams, North Carolina CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State |
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oh god i may need to rethink my cooper stand. :confused:
I am in agreement with PFT :( 2013 PFT mock draft, Version 2 So here’s our updated mock draft, based on the current pick schedule without predicting trades. Even though someone will likely trade back into round one to draft a quarterback. 1. Chiefs: OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M. 2. Jaguars: DE Dion Jordan, Oregon. 3. Raiders: DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida. 4. Eagles: DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri. 5. Lions: DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU. 6. Browns: CB Dee Milliner, Alabama. 7. Cardinals: DE Ziggy Ansah, BYU. 8. Bills: OG Chance Warmack, Alabama. 9. Jets: WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee. 10. Titans: CB Desmond Trufant, Washington. 11. Chargers: WR Keenan Allen, California. 12. Dolphins: OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan. 13. Buccaneers: WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia. 14. Panthers: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah. 15. Saints: OG Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina. 16. Rams: S Kenny Vaccaro, Texas. 17. Steelers: LB/DE Damontre Moore, Texas A&M. 18. Cowboys: CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State. 2013 PFT mock draft, Version 2 | ProFootballTalk or maybe they are finally listening to me :rolleyes: |
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So, no Lane Johnson in the top 18?!
Wouldn't he be a better pick for the Saints at #15 since they have a pressing need to add more talent at the LT position? |
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like i said agreeing with PTF makes me second guess myself
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19. Giants: TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame.
20. Bears: DT Sylvester Williams, North Carolina. 21. Bengals: OT D.J. Fluker, Alabama. 22. Rams (from Redskins): RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama. 23. Vikings: QB Geno Smith, West Virginia. 24. Colts: LB/DE Datone Jones, UCLA. 25. Vikings (from Seahawks): CB Tharold Simon, LSU. 26. Packers: NT John Jenkins, Georgia. 27. Texans: OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma. 28. Broncos: LB Kevin Minter, LSU. 29. Patriots: WR Deandre Hopkins, Clemson. 30. Falcons: DE Cornellius Carradine, Florida State. 31. 49ers: LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia. 32. Ravens: S Matt Elam, Florida. |
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Pretty much all the pre-draft rankings I've seen have listed Johnson as the #3 OT before Fluker, but this mock has Fluker going #21 and Johnson #27.
What am I missing here?! I have to believe that if Johnson is available at #15, and there are no big trade down offers; the Saints will pick him. |
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But do you think Johnson will drop as far down as the Texans? |
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