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lee909 04-27-2015 07:14 AM

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Heard rumours Atlanta might take Gurley.

He is a great prospect but i hope they do take him

hagan714 04-27-2015 08:08 AM

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SJB expectation?

none zip nada


So all SJB can do is be a pleasant surprise or yet again an after thought like a old fart lost in a cushion just waiting to emerge some where down the line and stink up the joint.

lee909 04-27-2015 08:19 AM

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If it doesn't click in preseason id look at moving him to safety or back to WR.

K Major 04-27-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 651161)
SJB expectation?

none zip nada


So all SJB can do is be a pleasant surprise or yet again an after thought like a old fart lost in a cushion just waiting to emerge some where down the line and stink up the joint.

LMAO :roflmao:

halloween 65 04-27-2015 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651163)
If it doesn't click in preseason id look at moving him to safety or back to WR.

SS is where I think he could be used. The kid may end up as one of the best suprizes ever. I cannot bring myself to look at him as a 2nd round bust not seeing him play yet. He has potential looking at his college film but why he hasn't been played on the field is confusing. Either way this season he will have the type of players that can help him at cb. or S.

RaginCajun83 04-27-2015 09:57 AM

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OT Rob Havenstein, Wisconsin

I'd love this pick, when was the last time the Saints drafted an offensive lineman from Wisconsin? That's what them boys up there are born and breed to do.

ChrisXVI 04-27-2015 01:42 PM

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I've been curious to see who Mike Triplett picks for us in the ESPN NFL Nation mock draft since he nailed it last year saying we'd trade up for Brandin Cooks. Mike's picks this year: Bud Dupree and Malcolm Brown. I could live with that.

hagan714 04-27-2015 04:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 651188)
I've been curious to see who Mike Triplett picks for us in the ESPN NFL Nation mock draft since he nailed it last year saying we'd trade up for Brandin Cooks. Mike's picks this year: Bud Dupree and Malcolm Brown. I could live with that.

Parker on the board and go with Bud ? I would not do it.

DeVante Parker and Todd Gurley both on the board at 13 with Dolphins sure to pick one of them would mean the Texans and the Chargers should be calling to trade ahead of Miami.

Brown as a 34 NT? he must have been thinking 34 DE.

MarchingOn 04-27-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 650897)
Thought it would be worth bumping this up to see how these are doing in big boards and to renember come draft day and one of my fav time the rush for UDFA

Xavier Williams, DT, Northern Iowa
Particulars: 6-foot-4, 311 pounds

Buzz: Williams is big, physical and active. The then-junior had 74 tackles last season to go with 5.5 sacks and 12 tackles for loss; he also blocked five kicks in the 2012 season, one of which occurred against Wisconsin. Williams is a former high school wrestler who does a good job with leverage considering his height.

This NT is the pick I want with one of our 5ths.

K Major 04-27-2015 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 651188)
I've been curious to see who Mike Triplett picks for us in the ESPN NFL Nation mock draft since he nailed it last year saying we'd trade up for Brandin Cooks. Mike's picks this year: Bud Dupree and Malcolm Brown. I could live with that.

Me too Chris.
With all of the big name hype of Fowler, Beasley, Shelton, Ray, Williams etc...Malcolm "twinkle toes" Brown could be there in the late teens. Big kid but moves extremely well. For what it's worth, he started in every game at UT the past two seasons.

3 more days and all of the speculation will be over :p !

ChrisXVI 04-27-2015 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 651244)
3 more days and all of the speculation will be over :p !

I practically go through a post-draft depression because there's nothing to obsess over lol.

brees84 04-27-2015 07:11 PM

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Shane Ray was arrested for possesion of marijuana. I didn't want him at 13. Now, there are no worries.

ChrisXVI 04-27-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 651249)
Shane Ray was arrested for possesion of marijuana. I didn't want him at 13. Now, there are no worries.


Wow! Unbelievable.

jeanpierre 04-27-2015 08:53 PM

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Now if this happened, well...

My All-In VB Mock Draft (Okay, Now This is it Update)

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premi...t.php?d=tmyyyj

Pick Pos Name, Alma Mater, Height, Weight

Pick No. 004 (R1, 04) LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

Pick No. 013 (R1, 13) (Traded to Oakland) *1

Pick No. 031 (R1, 31) CB Marcus Peters, Washington; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 197 lbs. (Via Seattle) *2

Pick No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson, 6' 2⅜", 243 lbs.

Pick No. 075 (R3, 11) OL Ali Marpet, Hobart, 6' 3⅞", 307 lbs.

Pick No. 078 (R3, 14) OT Rob Havenstein, Wisconsin, 6' 7", 321 lbs. (Via Miami) *3

Pick No. 102 (R4, 03) WR Chris Conley, Georgia, 6' 2", 213 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

Pick No. 112 (R4, 13) (Traded to Seattle) *2

Pick No. 148 (R5, 12) TE Blake Bell, Oklahoma, 6' 6", 252 lbs.

Pick No. 154 (R5, 18) (Via Kansas City, Traded to Oakland) *4, *1

Pick No. 187 (R6, 11) DE Corey Crawford, Clemson, 6' 5", 299 lbs.

Pick No. 230 (R7, 13) NT Deon Simon, Northwestern St (LA); 6’ 4⅜”, 321 lbs.

*1 Mock Trade - NO sends Picks 013 (R1, 13), 154 (R5, 18), & Future 1st round pick (or Gallette or Vaccaro or Jordan) to OAK for Pick 004 (R1, 04), 102 (R4, 03).

*2 Graham Trade - NO sends All-Pro TE Jimmy Graham and Pick 112 (R4, 13) to SEA for All-Pro C Max Unger and Pick 031 (R1, 31)

*3 Stills Trade - NO sends WR Kenny Stills to MIA for LB Dannell Ellerbe and Pick 078 (R3, 14)

*4 Grubbs Trade - NO sends LG Ben Grubbs to KC for Pick 154 (R5, 18).

Updated: Thanks Chris, Draft Can't Get Here Soon Enough!!!

ChrisXVI 04-27-2015 08:59 PM

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Fantastic draft jeanpierre! This cracked me up though:

Pick No. 031 (R1, 31) CB Marcus Peters, Washington; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 320 lbs. (Via Seattle) *2

Damn he got fat! Lol

lee909 04-28-2015 03:21 AM

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Loads of talk that the Dolphins want Gurley at 14. A team like the Cowboys may well need to get on the phone to Loomis. With two of the top pass rushers falling fast with drug flags moving back to 27 doesn't sound bad to me. You could then seriously looking at one of them or Peters/DBG there or 31.

The Cowboys would need to offer picks 1 (27), 2 (28), 3 (27) on the pick value charts. Could be a team changing draft.

lee909 04-28-2015 05:18 AM

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DraftTek mock pretty interesting

Trae Waynes CB
Malcom Brown DT
Carl Davis DE/DT
Lorenzo Mauldin DE/OLB
Arie Kouandijo OG
Blake Bell TE
Dezmin Lewis WR
Shane Cardin QB
Karlos Williams RB

hagan714 04-28-2015 05:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651304)
DraftTek mock pretty interesting

Trae Waynes CB
Malcom Brown DT
Carl Davis DE/DT
Lorenzo Mauldin DE/OLB
Arie Kouandijo OG
Blake Bell TE
Dezmin Lewis WR
Shane Cardin QB
Karlos Williams RB

NOT THAT BAD. need an additional CB in there and a LB.

Malcom Brown DT
Carl Davis DE/DT

that would add some serious beef to the rotation.

Malcom Brown should read 34DE/43DT

hagan714 04-28-2015 06:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651301)
Loads of talk that the Dolphins want Gurley at 14. A team like the Cowboys may well need to get on the phone to Loomis. With two of the top pass rushers falling fast with drug flags moving back to 27 doesn't sound bad to me. You could then seriously looking at one of them or Peters/DBG there or 31.

The Cowboys would need to offer picks 1 (27), 2 (28), 3 (27) on the pick value charts. Could be a team changing draft.

Parker and Gurley are both high on miami needs list

that put the texans chargers cards and cowboys all as possible trade down partners. actually the saints might make out really nice trade back in baby steps and get some picks in the back pocket for 2016 and still land some nice talent and or vets out of the move. Phili and the lions might be involved also.

13 is turning into a solid area of the draft after all. the next 5 teams look to possible make a run on the other top talent in the draft

hagan714 04-28-2015 07:05 AM

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my greatest fear

1. TB Jameis Winston
2. TEN Marcus Mariota
3. JAC Dante Fowler
4. OAK Leonard Williams
5. WAS Vic Beasley
6. NYJ Amari Cooper
7. CHI Kevin White
8. ATL Brandon Scherff
9. NYG La’El Collins
10. STL DeVante Parker
11. MIN Trae Waynes
12. CLE Danny Shelton

13. NO now what?
Andrus Peat - best LOT pospect?
Ereck Flowers - tons of upside at 13 scares ma a bit too much
Todd Gurley - If the knee checks out and we can afford to bring him along slowly maybe.
Alvin Dupree - not completely sold on his hype at 13
Arik Armstead - motor issues?

or the problem children?
Marcus Peters
Shane Ray
Randy Gregory

here is the draft were trade down looks very good

if not the OT and RB lead my boards at this point
Andrus Peat
Ereck Flowers
Todd Gurley

lee909 04-28-2015 07:08 AM

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If i touch one of tbe red flags its Peters. Some issues but unless im mistaken no drugs. He may well have grown up and is the best CB in the draft according to the scouts.

Mr.Riaton 04-28-2015 07:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651301)
Loads of talk that the Dolphins want Gurley at 14. A team like the Cowboys may well need to get on the phone to Loomis. With two of the top pass rushers falling fast with drug flags moving back to 27 doesn't sound bad to me. You could then seriously looking at one of them or Peters/DBG there or 31.

The Cowboys would need to offer picks 1 (27), 2 (28), 3 (27) on the pick value charts. Could be a team changing draft.

The way things are shaking out,the more I'm OK with trading down if possible unless Sherff or Beasley happens to fall to us. 1,1,2,2,3,3,3 would be very nice assuming we make logical picks. I have a feeling with Ireland on board, this draft will be much better than last years.

Mr.Riaton 04-28-2015 07:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651315)
If i touch one of tbe red flags its Peters. Some issues but unless im mistaken no drugs. He may well have grown up and is the best CB in the draft according to the scouts.

If we have a good leadership vibe in the locker room,I don't think he'll be a problem.

jeanpierre 04-28-2015 08:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 651319)
If we have a good leadership vibe in the locker room,I don't think he'll be a problem.

One kid, maybe; but we don't know all the 'problem child' situations have been addressed...

halloween 65 04-28-2015 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 651301)
Loads of talk that the Dolphins want Gurley at 14. A team like the Cowboys may well need to get on the phone to Loomis. With two of the top pass rushers falling fast with drug flags moving back to 27 doesn't sound bad to me. You could then seriously looking at one of them or Peters/DBG there or 31.

The Cowboys would need to offer picks 1 (27), 2 (28), 3 (27) on the pick value charts. Could be a team changing draft.

I would love that to happen, then package that 27th with a lower pick to get around 23 and own this draft this season with solid core players.Endless possibilities. If played right we could easily get great position picks next season also.

brees84 04-28-2015 06:00 PM

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adam schefter is an as*****! regarding La'el Collins story...

Danno 04-28-2015 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 651400)
adam schefter is an as*****! regarding La'el Collins story...


What are you talking about?

brees84 04-28-2015 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 651401)
What are you talking about?



You had to click thousand times to get actual info. Now there is on FB page.



Police are seeking to question LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins following the shooting death of a pregnant woman last week, Baton Rouge police Lt. Jonny Dunnam told ESPN.

Brittany Mills, 29, is believed by police to be a former girlfriend of Collins. Police said Collins is not currently a suspect in the shooting, only that they want to talk to him to see if he can assist with the information.

Collins' attorney, Jim Boren, told police his client is in Chicago, getting ready for the NFL draft. But Boren said he has been in constant contact with the lead detective on the case, he spoke with the district attorney today, and he even has retained the services of a private investigative firm to help him prove that Collins was not close to Mills' home when she was murdered.

"We took the investigation seriously," Boren said from his offices Tuesday. "We've tried to rule him out as a suspect. We're going to provide that information to the police, and ultimately (Collins) will sit down and talk to them. But the timing is poor."

Collins is projected as a first-round pick in Thursday's draft. Sources said a handful of teams have become aware of the incident and would like to know if police determine that Collins is the father of the infant who was delivered after Mills' death. The baby still receiving medical treatment.

Police told the Baton Rouge Advocate newspaper that in investigators believe, from a preliminary investigation, that Mills opened her door to someone who wanted to use her car and was shot multiple times after she refused.
Neighbors said they heard two gunshots about 10:30 p.m. Friday. They said the door to Mills' apartment was ajar when police arrived.

Danno 04-28-2015 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 651402)
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...64222298779648


You had to click thousand times to get actual info. Now there is on FB page.



Police are seeking to question LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins following the shooting death of a pregnant woman last week, Baton Rouge police Lt. Jonny Dunnam told ESPN.

Brittany Mills, 29, is believed by police to be a former girlfriend of Collins. Police said Collins is not currently a suspect in the shooting, only that they want to talk to him to see if he can assist with the information.

Collins' attorney, Jim Boren, told police his client is in Chicago, getting ready for the NFL draft. But Boren said he has been in constant contact with the lead detective on the case, he spoke with the district attorney today, and he even has retained the services of a private investigative firm to help him prove that Collins was not close to Mills' home when she was murdered.

"We took the investigation seriously," Boren said from his offices Tuesday. "We've tried to rule him out as a suspect. We're going to provide that information to the police, and ultimately (Collins) will sit down and talk to them. But the timing is poor."

Collins is projected as a first-round pick in Thursday's draft. Sources said a handful of teams have become aware of the incident and would like to know if police determine that Collins is the father of the infant who was delivered after Mills' death. The baby still receiving medical treatment.

Police told the Baton Rouge Advocate newspaper that in investigators believe, from a preliminary investigation, that Mills opened her door to someone who wanted to use her car and was shot multiple times after she refused.
Neighbors said they heard two gunshots about 10:30 p.m. Friday. They said the door to Mills' apartment was ajar when police arrived.

So why is Schefter an ass for it?

brees84 04-28-2015 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 651405)
So why is Schefter an ass for it?

You don't get it. This story wasn't there earlier. Just the title.

Danno 04-28-2015 06:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 651406)
You don't get it. This story wasn't there earlier. Just the title.

Well you're right, I just don't get it.

jeanpierre 04-28-2015 07:18 PM

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We've got to move up in this draft...

Tampa Bay and Tennessee have got to take quarterbacks...

Tampa looks married to Jamesis Winston...

Tennessee can't afford to not take Marcus Marriota and have Zach Mettenberger flop - they'd be out by the end of the season...

The best player in the draft is Leonard Williams, but Jacksonville needs an edge rusher and cornerback as they've already got a good defense; but they'll take Leonard Williams if they're smart...

Oakland is next and needs a big "x" wide receiver, but this is a deep draft for "x" wideouts and there will definitely be one at No. 13...

So Oakland is our target team to draft and move up to get Williams if he fell or Vic Beasley who is an ideal fit...

I'd trade pick no. 13 and a future first rounder, not any of our current 2015 picks and less there were a back end exchange...

If we stand pat at 13 and Scherff is gone, then we've got to move back into the beginning of the second round and accumulate picks...

I'd accumulate 2016 first round picks and 2015 second round picks (as New England did when we moved back into the first to get Ingram)...

This draft has a disproportionate number of second and third round pics to the rest of the draft...

K Major 04-28-2015 09:13 PM

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I think a trade scenario will happen ... not necessarily in the 1st rd but I do believe it will happen.

hagan714 04-29-2015 12:12 AM

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as players dope their way down the board pick 13 is less and lass of value. and to move up is costing more and more. there is no talent in round one i would over pay for really. And I mean really overpay for. top 10 knows how bad this draft is screwed in round 1 now and they will want a fortune despite the talent

pick 13 for sale for any first in 2016. hell houston can have 13 and 31 for 33 and a first in 2016 in my book right now.

fire sale. wrong draft to have 2 first in.

lee909 04-29-2015 12:35 AM

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What do you have now

Winston
Mariota
Beasley
Williams
Fowler
White
Cooper
Parker
Scherff

Thats about it before you look at
Waynes
Dupree
Shelton
Brown
Gurley
Gordon


That Tampa win is looking bad now as it took us out of tier 1. Id have taken any of them.

lee909 04-29-2015 12:40 AM

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Im really hoping Dallas or the Cardinals call to jump Miami.

Either 2015 1 + 2 and possibly another or 2015 2+3 or 4 and 2016 1.

Id love to move back
I risk Collins/Peters and DGB late in the first with the write contract meaning off field issues and guaranteed money is void.

hagan714 04-29-2015 03:02 AM

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that or the Texans and baby step out of the mess at 13

13. Saints to Texans 16 swapping 78 for 51, 82
they draft the top RB then we would be sitting good

at 16 now enter Dallas or the Cardinals to jump the Chargers at 17 for the next RB on the board?

or lets revisit that Eagles idea

Phili gets 13 and 31 -

saints get
key Tenn pick 33 - key is pick 33. get that and be willing to spread it out. 31 to 33 is not that big of a deal in this draft.
conditional 1st in 2016
swap 78 for 52
conditional 2nd in 2017 and swapping 154 for 113 that's for spreading it out to 2017

2nd 33 44 52
3rd 75
4th 113
5th 148
6th 187
7th 230

conditional 1st in 2016 and 2nd in 2017

phili 13 20 31 to tenn 2 2600
1150
850
600
plus whatever they need to do to get pick 33. Fletcher Cox and/or Mychal Kendricks should do it

Tenn gets the ammo to trade right back up

Philli spreads the pain out and gets the player they want without losing picks to the saints in 2015

plus this is a very cap friendly draft.

guarantee this would make round 1 fun for many teams.

2016 we are sitting pretty good with 2 first.

once again this has turned into the wrong draft to have 2 1st in. to many JR stayed in school this year

SmashMouth 04-29-2015 11:16 AM

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Jon Gruden: I don’t get why Marcus Mariota isn’t No. 1 | ProFootballTalk

saintsfan1976 04-29-2015 05:53 PM

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998......

saintsfan1976 04-29-2015 05:54 PM

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The only player I'm trading up to #3 or #4 for is Leonard Williams.


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