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In light of the Phillip Dorsett love we're showing... Here's a 3 round mock where we trade up in the 2nd round to land him if he's still available when Chicago is on the clock. It only costs us the second of our 3rd round picks.

R1P13 Danny Shelton DT Washington
R1P31 Stephone Anthony ILB Clemson
R2P7 **Saints trade picks 44 and 78 to Chicago** Phillip Dorsett WR Miami
R3P11 Ali Marpet G Hobart

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Nice.

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The issue there is take Colston away and non of the other 5'11"+ receivers have proved a thing. Toon has shown the briefests glimpses he can play in three years and the other two have not seen the field. Im not writting them off but we are taking a massive risk making so many changes

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Very true, I'm hoping Nick Toon can build on a solid last half of the season, he actually became pretty consistent near the end.

If Brandon Coleman can work out that he's supposed to catch the football then we would be in a better situation

I still think we should sign Greg Jennings though, guy can still play and we need more veteran WR's to show the younger guys.

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Greg Jennings yes, if we sign a guy like Dorial Green Beckham

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There's no free agent talent at WR i'd want, rather improve with younger, better talent through the draft...

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This is interesting excerpt from Gil Brandt over at NFL.com ...

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture815.jpg

Source: Best, worst sets of first-round picks: Browns at the bottom - NFL.com

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2015 Pro Days: Marcus Peters among standouts at popular UW workout - CBSSports.com

"...Peters spent last night dining with members of the New York Jets and will spend Thursday evening with the New Orleans Saints..."

We may be getting a CB with No. 31...

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I like this

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talk about a million dollar dinner

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Only if the big LBs can be in the right place and make a tackle. Versus running themselves outta the play and then racking up some stats by chasing them down from behind.

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I would love to see us take Marcus Peters at 31

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i am so on the fence with this one. love the steal and i love all that i am hearing about him

but

he moved in with Lynch and well that could be a good thing or a bad thing. lol

then again

after last year do we really have a strong enough locker room to help deal with him?

there is this

at least he would not pull a Greene on you.

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Best college corner-back prospect in my opinion. Supa dupa talented.

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Someone just cost themselves a couple million...

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His situation to me seems more like a personality conflict with a couple coaches bent on setting an example.

While I agree a strong locker room is important, so is a strong defense.

Why is it that New England can take "problem players" and turn them into solid starters with without public incidents?

Do we have the coaches to handle it?

I would love to see Brandon Browner & Keenan Lewis take a guy like Peters under their wings...

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Are you kidding me? That was pretty damn dumb.

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How dumb are these kids?
You only need to keep clean for 4-5 months,how hard is it

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Vote for the Saints #13 pick in the reader's mock draft over at Walter Football... WalterFootball.com: Reader 2015 NFL Mock Draft

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My All-In Mock Draft

Pick Pos Name, Alma Mater, Height, Weight

Pick No. 004 (R1, 04) LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

Pick No. 013 (R1, 13) (Traded to Oakland) *1

Pick No. 031 (R1, 31) DL Carl Davis, Iowa; Height: 6' 4⅝"; Weight: 320 lbs. (Via Seattle) *2

Pick No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson, 6' 2⅜", 243 lbs.

Pick No. 075 (R3, 11) OL Ali Marpet, Hobart, 6' 3⅞", 307 lbs.

Pick No. 078 (R3, 14) CB Eric Rowe, Utah, 6' 0¾", 205 lbs. (Via Miami) *3

Pick No. 102 (R4, 03) OT Donovan Smith, Penn State, 6' 5⅝", 338 lbs. (Via Oakland) *1

Pick No. 112 (R4, 13) (Traded to Seattle) *2

Pick No. 148 (R5, 12) TE Blake Bell, Oklahoma, 6' 6¼", 252 lbs.

Pick No. 154 (R5, 18) (Via Kansas City, Traded to Oakland) *4, *1

Pick No. 187 (R6, 11) NT Deon Simon, Northwestern St (LA); 6’ 4⅜”, 321 lbs

Pick No. 230 (R7, 13) Jake Kumerow, Wisconsin-Whitewater; 6' 4½", 208 lbs

*1 Mock Trade - NO sends Picks 013 (R1, 13), 154 (R5, 18), & Future 1st round pick to OAK for Pick 004 (R1, 04), 102 (R4, 03).

*2 Graham Trade - NO sends All-Pro TE Jimmy Graham and Pick 112 (R4, 13) to SEA for All-Pro C Max Unger and Pick 031 (R1, 31)

*3 Stills Trade - NO sends WR Kenny Stills to MIA for LB Dannell Ellerbe and Pick 078 (R3, 14)

*4 Grubbs Trade - NO sends LG Ben Grubbs to KC for Pick 154 (R5, 18).

Notes:

Been reluctant to post this mock at the risk of Hagan, Sarik or 76 requesting a psych consult or Tom Benson ed. straight jacket for that matter, so fine, I'll bust right through denial and state my mancrush/fear with Beasley is surging...

Beasley is gonna be a game changer with a rarer skill set for his position...

Liken making a bold move like this to the four point swing play in basketball; and I'd rather have him with us twice a year against ATL than against us twice a year...

To maximize his set and to address shallow depth at DE, with pick 31 I took Carl Davis out of Iowa who can play multiple positions along the defensive line; when adjectives like 'immovable' are used in his scouting reports, that's the guy I want setting the edge allowing Vic to do his thing...

In the second round went back to Clemson and got Stephone Anthony who's just now starting to show the higher ceiling than what many thought after his Senior Bowl and Combine performances; this is not only upgrade at the neglected MLB position, this is establishing elite talent at yet another position...

Payton stated he wanted highly motivated players and who best exemplifies that than OL Ali Marpet out of little-known Hobart College; another guy who did what was asked of him at the Senior Bowl and just killed the Combine...

While we now have a pair of respectable cornerbacks (best in the league according to NFLN talking @$$hat Deion Sanders), but I want to start developing size and youth there and Eric Rowe is sitting there in the third; and as he ages and slows, he can also move to safety - gotta love those flexible position guys...

Now I didn't just totally lose my mind to get Beasley, I turned my Ben Grubbs fifth round pick into a early fourth round pick and got a guy who should be ready to step in as an OT for the Saints as early as late this season or next...

In the fifth, I got some of that ability Graham offered in the red zone and got a former QB turned TE in Bell outta of OU; he's still learning the position so that ceiling there is encouraging...

I was as surprised as anybody that the strongest DL/NT at the combine came from my own state N'Western St LA; then I heard Belichick took an interview with him; then the NFLN did some columns and posted links to his film; this guy would be perfect behind Bunkley, Jenkins tutuoring and learning because this guy's a beast...

Last upon reading an article regarding NFL bloodlines and sons of NFL alum chasing the dream, I learned about Jake Kumerow; saw some of his film and workout and thought, could a lightning strike twice for us in the seventh with a big, tall overlooked WR?!?

Updated: http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premi...t.php?d=ylrcwo

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2 number 1s for Beasley

No thanks

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Beasley is gonna be this generations' Rickey Jackson...

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JP,

I need to borrower your crystal ball brother :p !

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Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri?

oh goodie the fans want a carbon copy of Jr on the other side. i will be ticked if we pick Ray, Jr. and those two are our starting OLB

all i can say is run forest run

run right at them.

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CB PJ Williams in the third baby :p

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dam jumping wayyyyyyyyy out on that limb

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Yeah I don't get the Shane Ray love myself. But in all honesty I don't like any of the options there for us. I'm starting to really get on board with trading up.

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Hey Chris,
Who are you thinking (trade up)? Beasley ? Shelton?

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That's the hard part. I think we can trade up to #7 by only giving up our 2nd round pick. If Chicago's on the clock and Beasley's still available then you bet I'd give Ryan Pace a call. Chicago's rebuilding their defense as well and I'm sure they wouldn't mind the extra 2nd round pick. Jump in front of the Failclowns and steal their guy!

Danny Shelton would be a good pick too and Cleveland at 12 is a threat to take him. We wouldn't need to climb as far for him.

Is there anyone you would be willing to trade up for?

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Agreed.

I would trade up for Danny S or Vic as well, otherwise stay put.

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Malcom Brown, DT, Texas
Jalen Collins, CB, LSU
Landon Collins, S, Alabama
Alvin Dupree, DE, Kentucky
Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
Eric Kendricks, ILB, UCLA
DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville
Breshad Perriman, WR, Central Florida
Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri
Read more at WalterFootball.com: Reader 2015 NFL Mock Draft

i can see this being left at 13

DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville

is the only one i would take. but if the phone ran trading down would not be out of the question. get picks in 2016 is still high on my wish list. so i would be flexible.

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Pace can't make that trade because he's building a 3-4 in Chicago as well...

That's why we've got to reach way up...

In my mind, and I failed to mention this in my diatribe, the Future No. 1 was used but it could easily be either of Kenny Vaccaro or Cam Jordan...

As I posted on another thread, Bill Williamson, who's one of the more credible columnist, sorry, bloggers for you whiper-snappers, has 'pondered' moves regarding AFC West Teams before only to see moves very close to what he suggested come about...

Point is, I don't think he just sat at his desk and decided to stir up things, he may have some information that he based this column on...

If available, Cameron Jordan would make sense for Raiders to consider - Oakland Raiders Blog - ESPN

I'm not sure at this point the Saints are convinced, nor should they be, that Cam Jordan has proved worthy of a max contract (ghosts of Will Smith coming back for me); so maybe we move Jordan and get an impact pass rusher (my mock has Vic Beasley/Carl Davis teaming up on one side) and keep outta the salary cap trap till the stats, body of evidence is there to justify those salaries...

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Interesting read... Thanks for posting that link! That's an angle I hadn't thought about. As if there could've possibly been more draft day scenario's to ponder now I have another one!

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This is the Scouts Inc top 32.

Bold is players I would absolutely avoid in round 1.

Player Pos. School Grade
1. Jameis Winston* QB Florida St 97
2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96
3. Amari Cooper* WR Alabama 93
4. Kevin White WR W Virginia 93
5. Marcus Mariota* QB Oregon 93
6. Randy Gregory* OLB Nebraska 93
7. Arik Armstead* DE Oregon 92
8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92
9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93
10. Andrus Peat* OT Stanford 90
11. DeVante Parker WR Louisville 92
12. Dante Fowler Jr.* DE Florida 92
13. Malcom Brown* DT Texas 91
14. Todd Gurley* RB Georgia 91
15. Shane Ray* OLB Missouri 91
16. Trae Waynes* CB Michigan St 91
17. Landon Collins* S Alabama 90
18. Cameron Erving C Florida St 90
19. Ereck Flowers* OT Miami (FL) 90
20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90
21. Marcus Peters* CB Washington 90
22. T.J. Clemmings T Pittsburgh 89
23. La'el Collins ? LSU 88
24. Breshad Perriman* WR UCF 89
25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89
26. Melvin Gordon* RB Wisconsin 89
27. Jaelen Strong* WR Arizona St 89
28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89
29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86
30. D. Green-Beckham* WR Missouri 88
31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88
32. Jalen Collins* CB LSU 88

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Why no love for Kevin Johnson and Eli Harold?

The only ones I like in that group are

2. Leonard Williams* DE USC 96
8. Brandon Scherff T Iowa 92
9. Danny Shelton DT Washington 93
20. Eddie Goldman* DT Florida St 90
25. Vic Beasley OLB Clemson 89
28. Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest 89
29. Carl Davis DT Iowa 86
31. Eli Harold* OLB Virginia 88

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Goldman has been over-looked by a lot of people. He is solid.

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I like Harold. You know that. Just not in round 1.

Now who I am sold on is Stephone Anthony! I have ZERO problem taking him at 31.

Could you imagine if we somehow drafted Beasley AND Anthony ??

Stephone Anthony vs FSU (2014) | Draft Breakdown

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That's pretty much my dream too...

I'd really like DL Carl Davis with those two...If that happened...

I'd be halfway across the country banging on Hagan's door drunk BEFORE he got the cork outta his own liquor...

:bng:

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I went back and watched the entire game against FSU ... if I had to sum it up in a word on Anthony it would be explosive. Once coached up properly, he could be a serious LB in the NFL for many years.

"With the 31st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select ... ".

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OT T.J. Clemmings (6-foot-4 3/4, 309 pounds), whom most analysts believe will go in the second half of the first round, has visits set up with the Denver Broncos, New Orleans Saints, and St. Louis Rams, according to a report from Foxsports.com. The Broncos, who pick 28th in the first round, are in need of a right tackle. Clemmings has played just two seasons along the offensive line but started as a junior and senior at right tackle for Pitt.

Report: Broncos among three teams to host OT T.J. Clemmings - NFL.com

not giving up on my OL yet.