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Okay this is the last list I'll do for receivers. These 9 in order from best to worst among these.

1.Chris Conley


2.Kenny Bell


3.Austin Hill



4.Titus Davis



5.Vince Mayle


6.Darren Waller


7.Stefon Diggs


8.Tre McBride


9.Dezmin Lewis


The first three I like the best. Chris Conley, another SEC receiver that could be gotten later than first. Kenny Bell and Austin Hill were the next standouts to me.

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every game i got to see these guys play he always caught my eye. not because he did something flashy. he just appeared to well coached and extremely disciplined.

he might be getting a bit of hype build up but if you pick him odds are you are getting a player that groomed and ready for the show right out of the box.

this is what you will probably get with this guy.

he may not make a ton of highlight reels but he will quietly surprise you by season end what he has done. odds are he will rack up hurries and hits. but the other players will benefit from his play racking up sacks. In the run game he will be the stout one that forces the play wide or to end side setting up others to rack up the stats. he will get solid numbers but odds are his impact will go unsung for a long time but everyone knows what he does and will respect him for it league wide.

he is just that type of player IMO. Solid all around 3 down type.

of all the dogs he impressed the most each and every game.

dare i say an ILB there, whats his name (?), owes a lot to him for his draft rating

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every year we look for a player to root for out of no were. i may have found that guy

But the big story at the Kansas pro-day is the performance of a receiver from Pittsburg State.

Gavin Lutman was a bit of an unknown to scouts as he was unable to attend junior timing day a year ago while Pittsburg State figured out his eligibility. On the field in 2014, Lutman produced 70 receptions for 1,196 yards and 13 scores.

At today's workout, Lutman turned heads with his testing numbers. His measurements were 6-3, 214 pounds, and he then went on to touch 36 inches in the vertical jump, 10-5 in the broad jump and time 4.46 seconds in the 40. Lutman's 3-cone drill was a swift 6.65 seconds and, he was timed at 4.09 seconds in the short shuttle.

Scouts were evidently beside themselves as to not even ranking Lutman through the season. Compared to Jon Brown, the former Pittsburg State star coming off to a tremendous rookie campaign in the NFL, scouts say Lutman, though slower, has a size advantage and is more natural catching at the ball.

Read more at 2015 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com

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Texas Southern
Twenty-five scouts were on hand for Texas Southern pro day, primarily to watch little-known cornerback Tray Walker, who did not disappoint.

Walker measured 6-2 3/4, 189 pounds, posted 36.5-inch vertical jump and 10-7 broad jump. His 40 times included a wind-aided 4.44 and 4.51 against the wind. Walker also clocked a 4.05 in the short shuttle and a 3-cone, which dipped under 6.7.

Walker has a host of official visits, including the Arizona Cardinals, Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Atlanta Falcons, Denver Broncos, Dallas Cowboys and New Orleans Saints.

Read more at 2015 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com

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[QUOTE=jjasso007;647591]Most recent draft with our compensatory picks

Round 1, pick 13: Eric Kendricks - ILB - UCLA

My favorite (and the safest) ILB. Hope to get in the 2nd, though.

Round 1, pick 31: Jalen Strong - WR - Arizona State

Exactly who I want of those projected to still be at #31. Yes, excellent WR

Round 2, pick 12: Hau-oli Kikaha - OLB - Washington

Round 3, pick 11: Ali Marpet - G - Hobart

I'd love this pick. Another small school stud to be.

Round 3, pick 14: Efo Ekpre-Olomu - CB - Oregon

Round 5, pick 12: Tyrus Thompson - OT - Oklahoma

Round 5, pick 18: Xavier Williams - DT - Northern Iowa

My favorite mid-round NT. I'd take him even if we take NT Shelton at #13!

Round 6, pick 11: Jalston Fowler- FB - Alabama

Round 7, pick 13: Jean Sifrin - TE - Massachusetts

Don't know and haven't studied the rest, but (since you must be brilliant), I'll go with all you are taking.

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Yes, very good TE and the only one I'd pick this draft. But, only further down in the 2nd or 3rd. 2nd round pick needed for ILB, OL, or WR.

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You've nailed what I'm thinking, too Any of these at #13 or trade back a little. I hope we take a NT with 1 of our 2 first round picks. So tired seeing anyone able to run up the middle on us.

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Good draft! Yep, Marpet and Tre Jackson are our best target OL in the 3rd.

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Not instictive and gets caught up in the trash. Kendricks is safer in the 2nd or Mike Hull of Penn St in the 6th.

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Well, I'd love it if on draft day we packaged our 13th pick and Galette and move up to the 5th (WAS) or 6th (Jets) should Beasley be there, select VB and get a fourth in return...

Some mocks have VB falling as far as our 13th pick, however many currently have him going to ATL...

No matter what "severe' means to der Kommisar, he's not taking ATL nor CLE first round pick from them - so we can put that thought away...

They've got a good idea about the penalty and if it were a first rounder, somebody would've spilt the beans by now...

I'd reach and take Eli Harold as he's the next closest thing, probably will be just as good, his development is just a little behind VB...

It'd be nice to trade back with the Bengals and pick up an add'l pick, but here's the problem...

Several teams (i.e. PIT, AZ, IND) that'd could easily move up from those spots and eliminate what we need - an elite 3-4 OLB with top flight pass rushing ability...

Chances are, Payton will select DGB and envision having him across Cooks, with Colston in the slot in 3WR formations and pull the trigger...

He'll have confidence in the Drew and the Locker Room getting this kid right...

And for a few days, I'll curse our coach for not moving up to get VB or taking Eli at 13...

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Really don't think we're moving back in the draft picking up picks as we've no room to sign that many players...

If anything, we're moving up, fewer players for the little cap room we've got...

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nothing wrong with trading back and getting picks for next year. take this rare moment of so many picks and spreading a few out to make this moment last a bit longer. i know not exactly the saints style.

i would rather them do that if we miss out on our targeted players than reach, hope and pray with that pick.

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Eli Harold at 13? i will be livid to tell the truth. :furious: i have a hard enough time taking him at 31 but i could understand the PICK> LIKE SJB it would be a pick of need and show that the saints have absolutely no faith in the young OLB as a whole that we have now. my initial reaction would be that Ronald Powell is no where ready to helping out.

A desperation reach pick for need. we are not that bad off there to not pick a better prospect at 13 without all the hype attached them. Eli has a ton of it.

i will go back and look at him but i really can see it much less a new TV if they made the pick at 13

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Actually, many mocks have teams taking him between 15-25...

And then there is this...

2015 NFL Draft Scouting Report: EDGE Eli Harold - Edge Defenders - NFL News - Pro Football Spot - Forums

UVa Pro Day Report

Eli Harold wows at Virginia's pro day - Richmond.com: College Football

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look i like the guy i just do not see it in his game. at 13 ? i just can not do it. 31 is a reach in my book that i could live with,

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I'd be not as upset if they took Harold at 31, if they did it at 13 then the remote is going through the TV

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I've found a decent corner who should be there in the 5th/6th/7th... Lorenzo Doss - Tulane

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I agree buddy. Lol sounds like Corey White all over again. Lets not draft on potential, we need guys who can step in day 1.

Im not by any means saying Brandon Browner is a franchise savior at CB, but i feel with the acquisition it gives us room to draft front 7 whether it be DT, Edge or ILB. I say pass on corner in round 1. Plenty of depth in the draft to get a guy later & sit under Keenan & Brandon, besides i still wanna see what Delvin Breaux & SJB can do. Sean was just praising both the other day...i do really hope that Sean & Mickey's thoughts on SJB are genuine/real. Rooting for SJB.

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SJB? i got my pomp pomps out for him. for him to actually get on the field would be a great sign. that and not look so lost he ends up at the concession stands

he could be the biggest impact player on defense if he is ready to step in and log some serious time in the secondary. he does not need to take over on the outside as a starter to accomplish this either

till he does i still have the secondary as a work in progress that is no where near completed,

Collins looks the part sure but he has not played enough IMO to really get a good feel for him and his ability mentally to play the position. if he is of interest i would throw a third round option at you that is prett much the same type of player with less on the field questions: Josh Shaw USC. then you got the bobbi prize player that just makes you shake your head in Justin Cox, talent and head aches

Lorenzo Doss - Tulane whats not to like really. but i fear he will not make into the 5th. just like Charles Gaines

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Big contingent from the Saints at FSU today including Sean Payton and Rob Ryan. Lots of players there that we're probably interested in: Mario Edwards, PJ Williams, Ronald Darby, Cameron Erving... Jameis Winston lol. Just joking but it's a busy day for our coaches.

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Karlos Williams RB FSU i am still interested in. he maybe a solid late round type. some issues off the field but heck that is not hurting Winston.

I would move him back to safety. if you run out of rb in a game heck at that point he can play a rb.

if off the field issues are not a problem ie no convictions, he could make some players in that crowded field expendable. heck of a special teamer to boot.

lets see if he slips

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Just did a mock draft with NDT scouting and this is what I got in the first 3 rounds... lol

13: R1P13
DT DANNY SHELTON
WASHINGTON

31: R1P31
DE SHANE RAY
MISSOURI

44: R2P12
ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY
CLEMSON

75: R3P11
G ALI MARPET
HOBART

78: R3P14
DE ARIK ARMSTEAD
OREGON

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What a great way to show that mock drafts are insane. Seriously though, Ray won't get out of the top 10.

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ok i left needs out of it and went my BPA and passed on the all the huge sliders. check this one out lmao

13: R1P13 - CB TRAE WAYNES MICHIGAN STATE
31: R1P31 - CB KEVIN JOHNSON WAKE FOREST
44: R2P12 - ILB BENARDRICK MCKINNEY MISSISSIPPI STATE
75: R3P11 - CB RONALD DARBY FLORIDA STATE
78: R3P14 - RB JEREMY LANGFORD MICHIGAN STATE
148: R5P12 - CB CHARLES GAINES LOUISVILLE
154: R5P18 - OLB JAKE RYAN MICHIGAN
187: R6P11 - DT DERRICK LOTT CHATTANOOGA
230: R7P13 - DT DEON SIMON NORTHWESTERN STATE

Got all my favorite CBs. saints open camp with no less than 8 CBs. pushing safeties for the top spot. hell of a rotation.

damn
148: R5P12 - CB CHARLES GAINES LOUISVILLE
he wont be here. guess i was laughing to hard at this point

but still. no need to talk CB needs for a few years ;)

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Looks like they're aware of who Perryman is...

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Come on down Mr. Perryman at pick #31. I would like to see McKenney at #44. It would strenghten our lb. core up immediately. Nothing flashy with these lb.'ers just solid picks.

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looks like saints want to get smaller

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I don't get that...

We tried that and we just got ran over...

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From 2015 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracked by Team

2015 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracker:
By Team

By Walter Cherepinsky - @walterfootball
Updated: April 1, 2015


This is a compilation of draft prospect visits sorted by prospect. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources.

SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
LOC - Local visit.
PRI - Private visit.
WOR - Private Workout.
% - indicates more than one meeting at an event.
^ - has met with team at more than one event.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2015 Senior Bowl or the 2015 East-West Shrine Game

Read more at 2015 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracked by Team

New Orleans Saints

No. 1 Team Need
Cornerback
See the other needs ...
Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (SR)
Tavaris Barnes, DE, Clemson (PRO)
Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma (EW)
Bryce Callahan, CB, Rice (EW)
Sam Carter, S, TCU (EW)
David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (SR)
La'el Collins^, OT, LSU (SR, LOC)
Devante Davis, WR, UNLV (SR)
Paul Dawson, OLB/ILB, TCU (PRO)
Dillon Day, C, Mississippi State (EW)
Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (PRO)
Alvin Dupree, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Kentucky (PRO)
Mario Edwards Jr., DE/DT/3-4DE, Florida State (COM)
Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (PRO)
Doran Grant, CB/S, Ohio State (SR)
Chaz Green, OT, Florida (WOR)
Geneo Grissom, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Oklahoma (SR)
Amarlo Herrera, ILB, Georgia (EW)
Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (SR)
Darrian Miller, OT, Kentucky (EW)
Denzel Perryman, OLB/ILB, Miami (PRO)
Jordan Richards, S, Stanford (EW)
Danny Shelton, DT/NT, Washington (COM)
JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas (SR)
Blake Sims, QB, Alabama (PRO)
Preston Smith, DE, Mississippi State (SR)
Tye Smith, CB, Towson (EW)
Martrell Spaight, OLB, Arkansas (SR)
Tray Walker, CB, Texas Southern (PRI)
Keon Williams, RB, Chattanooga (PRO)
Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State (COM)
Gabe Wright, DT, Auburn (SR)

Read more at 2015 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracked by Team

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...because we didn't have good NT play and/or our ILBs were taken out of the play due to bad instincts, getting caught up in the trash, or whatever it was that had Lofton/Hawthorne allowing RBs to gash us right where our ILBs should be.

Not because the LBs were too small. Maybe that'll be the reason if the bad rush defense continues this year, but it was not why we suck stopping the run recently.

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March...

Gotta disagree...

I think we gotta stay with getting bigger on the defensive line and continue with bigger linebackers...

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Reading reports from Miami's Pro Day earlier and there are two storylines: First, Sean Payton is in love with Phillip Dorsett. Second, Denzel Perryman injured his hamstring but no official word on severity yet... Some rumors it may be significant.

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Phillip Dorset 5-foot-10 and 184 pounds ran a 4.25 40 dam but what happens when a nfl safety nails him to dead stop at that 4.25. i guess we are thinking of quick screening the nfl to death till he and cook get knocked out.

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Have we moved on from Toon & Coleman ?

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Cant say i like the idea of another midget WR

We are in a division of 6ft CBs and massive WRs and we are getting smaller

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Tall CB's can't typically hang with the Brandin Cooks types.

Gimme four Steve Smiths and I stomp your tall ass CB's all day long. And I hate that M***** F***** as much as any WR in the league.

Most teams are trending toward big CB's who have more trouble flipping their hips. I'd counter that with shifty speed demons.

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I think we would have a pretty nice balance:

Brandon Coleman 6'6"
Marques Colston 6'4"
Nick Toon 6'4"
Seantavious Jones 6'3"
Brandin Cooks 5'10"
Jalen Saunders 5'9"

Then you add the TE's and I don't think adding another 5'10" receiver like Dorsett would hurt.

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yeah who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.