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1st. Shane Ray OLB/DE Missouri
2nd. Danny Shelton NT Washington
3rd. Laken Tomlinson G Duke
4th. Nick Martin C Notre Dame
5th Devonte Fields OLB TCU
6th. Josh Shaw CB USC
7th. Best Available Kicker

Free Agent pick ups
Chris Harris CB Denver
KJ Wright ILB Seattle

My dream draft.

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whatever happened to DE/OLB in a 34 that can anchor the edge. Why all the love for pass rusher? we spent our cap on Jr for that role. i would like to see a pick that is a bit more well rounded than Jr. Teams just let Jr rush himself out of plays and push him wide. not like he has a great inside move.

In the long run I believe they would replace Jr and make us regret giving Jr that contract. Ok good chance Jr would be nothing but a speed rusher of the bench by the end season 1. But we will still be faced with same issue against the pass and the run.

I am thinking more of a true two down OLB more than a pass rusher.

Am i missing something?

not trying to bash the picks of Beasley or Ray as much as understand it.


2nd. Danny Shelton NT Washington
3rd. Laken Tomlinson G Duke
I could live with it. talk about getting value

Free Agent pick ups
Chris Harris CB Denver - Denver is already talking contracts. I can not see him getting out of Denver. this would be a dream come true. talk about one addition that would have the biggest impact in the off season this would be it. or Revis

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1. Denzel Perryman-ILB Miami great fit next to Lofton
2. Jordan Phillips- NT- Oklahoma 3-4 ready same skeem the okkies run
3. Vadal Alexander-G- LSU no ,I'm not a homer the guy is a road grader.
4. Max Garcia G/C - Florida (well rounded)
5. Tyler Davidson-DT- Frezno State quality depth and quality run defender
6. Landon Turner-G- North Carolina- groom to replace 1 gaurd next year
7. David Cobb-RB-Minnesota- a bowling ball, will get those tough yrds and make a D pay.

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Interiors of both sides of the ball addressed with depth...awesome. Only very glaring issue I got with your picks is this: there's not enough of them.

Sorry, dude.

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Latest mock post Chicago win. Has us drafting #21 now

Round 1: Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
-fell to our spot so I grabbed him, nuff' said

Round 2: Jalen Collins - CB - LSU
- all of you LSU fans know of Collins. Big CB who gets his hands on a good number of balls thrown his way. He is rising up draft boards.

Round 3: Rashad Greene - WR - Florida State
- all he does is make plays. WR corp of Greene, Stills and Cooks is young, fast and menacing! Add in a developing Toon (provided we keep him) and Coleman (provided he develops) and we have our trees and speed on the outsides

Round 4: Jarvis Harrison - OG - Texas A&M
- comes from a pass happy offense, and we've been known to love to pass the ball. Not saying Harrison can't run block, but if he can do that adequately, plus solid pass protection, I'd consider it an upgrade

Round 5: Tyrus Thompson - OT - Oklahoma
- Gives us a legit OT to put behind Strief, whenever Strief decides to shut it down, plus he's better than the HUGE reach that was Tavon Rooks and the turnstile that is Bryce Harris

Round 6: A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee
- was removed from the team due to a off field incidence, so he's falling. But in terms of play, he's been great. Would be a huge boon for us considering our slow ILBs

Round 7: Ray Drew - DE - Georgia
- Mr. Irrelevant. Nothing special, does his job. Adds more youth on our Dline

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You guys realize that mock drafts are 99.987% wrong, right?

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You remind everyone every chance you get!

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Uh no Chris I don't.

I only remind them 99.987% of the time.:p

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O-Line help.

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LMAO I KNOW. WHAT IS FUN IS THE FACT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SAINTS THE ODDS ARE EVEN WORSE.

but with that, way to often peps here do a better job than the saints 95% of the time on day 2 and especially day 3 of the draft.

we have people here that have a good eye for talent. i am always surprised by players often over looked in the middle rounds that people bang the drum for and they were right.

besides it is fun to look back eat some crow and then stand up and say see i told you so.:beer:

if you could lock this forum in a room on draft day and let us do the picking we would not have half the holes we have today. :p

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So are polls, power rankings and Peter King.

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They won't test FA market. Harris signed extension 5 years 42mil, K.J Wright 4 years 27mil.

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Damn... our next stud is in the 2015 draft. They are out there, but our scouts must do a better job of finding them.

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Seahawks are crazy (in a good way)

"the Seahawks have signed defensive end Cliff Avril to a new four-year extension, worth $28.5 million with $16 million guaranteed."


I wanted this guy as FA target.

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QB - nah, good for now.

RB - I think we'll need one. If we keep Ingram PT is probably gone. If Ingram is gone there's a void.

WR - only if we end up with a shot at Amari Cooper, IMO. He's the one guy you couldn't pass up.

TE - no need

OL - best guard available. Lelito can take over center. We're good at tackle for now. But one of Evans or Grubbs needs to go, and the one who stays should take a paycut. We need an impact guard like that kid the Cowboys took this year.

DL - Yes. Bunkley is gone. Jenkins and Hicks seem like guys that need to be pushed. With Hicks ability to play nose we aren't forced into taking a specific position, just get the best guy available.

LB - Assuming Hawthorne is gone I like the Lofton/Humber combo inside. We could use a young guy here as depth and development. Fortt apparently wasn't that guy but they had the right idea. An all-around outside backer with size and speed would be nice. Haralson is slow and Galette isn't really a linebacker.

CB - Yes, get one. or sign one in FA at least. Darius Butler from the Colts would be a great pickup. If not get that kid from LSU, he's got a nose for the ball.

S - got enough of these for sure.

K - get one.

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yep a big if there

Cameron Erving has me wondering. OC he looks pretty good after doing so so at LT. So kill a few birds with one stone? OC/OG/ROT. he will fit in there some where as a starter and give some flexibility to the OL when we and if we add other players

that or a RT prospect that can side into the OG

I am look at both OG right now an thinking it is time to start training up some replacements

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With Vacaro now reverting to his real role of roaming safety it looks like another need for FA or the draft unless Sunseri or Ball can take the spot. I dont think Ball has done nearly enough to show its his job and its hard to know what to expect from Sunseri(real shame he got injured).
I'd look to trade Bush as its a area of depth with pieces needed elsewhere.

Looking at the FA coming up at S
Dawan Landry(might fit the bill,knows Rex scheme great against the run,good against the pass and a tackle machine. only 31 and might like the chance to play for a potential contender)
Duke Ihenacho
Brandon Meriweather


Projected 4-5 round
IBRAHEIM CAMPBELL, SS
SCHOOL: NORTHWESTERN | CONFERENCE: BIG10
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE: SENIOR | HOMETOWN: PHILADELPHIA, PA
HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 5-11 / 205 LBS.

STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES

Despite his youth, Campbell quickly established himself as one of the leaders of the Northwestern defense and is the only returning starter to the secondary from a year ago. He has average size, but hits like a truck with quick reaction skills, reading his keys and making snap decisions with natural football awareness.
With expectations now on his shoulders, Campbell will try and avoid a sophomore slump this season, but his future as a pro prospect looks promising.

--Dane Brugler

PLAYER OVERVIEW

Campbell is only a redshirt sophomore, but if one year is any indication, he is in for a productive career in Evansville.
Lining up at safety last season, he led the team in tackles and earned Freshman All-American honors by the FWAA.

Campbell was recruited as a running back out of high school in Pennsylvania and chose the Wildcats over offers from Stanford, Michigan State and Boston College.

After redshirting in 2010, he moved to defense and earned a starting safety job last fall (12 starts) and led the team in tackles (100, ninth in the Big Ten), adding 3.5 tackles for loss and a pair of interceptions.

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I am looking at Byron Jones CB/S 6005 196 4.42 Connecticut

4th round steal due to a shoulder injury - torn labrum

began his career at safety but transitioned successfully to corner last year. size and tackling ability of a safety, and the smooth backpedal of a corner.

That reads like modern day Safety in the NFL to me. beside he would fill a need at CB to maybe

I am not sold on 80% of our DB anyways. I am hoping for a crowded camp at the DB positions next year. let players walk dead money or not. not like there is a ton tied up in failed back ups anyways.

Please some one else that has an eye for talent and football players making the call on who stays and who goes.

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Any chance we fire our scouts?

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No to a LB from the Pac 12. And the OG plays for one of the offensive teams in the SEC but that's worrisome. A&M I don't really consider to be a true SEC team because the team isn't really in SEC territory.

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I'm done with trying to figure out SP. He tried to get cute last year in the draft and blew it in the later rounds. Not to mention a rd 2 pick who never saw the field. How bad did he have to be not to play any on one of the worst defenses?

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If we do stay in the top 10 we should be in a great position to pick up a top OT(quite like Collins who i have read is jumping up the boards,especially as he can take over at both T/G.) or take the best pass rusher on the board. In round 2 should be in a position to take one of McKinney,Kendricks or Perryman to slot alongside Lofton.

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Fire all of them they're really bad.

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ingram gone , khery can handle that role pt comes back for his last then retires, pick up a forth or fifth round rb its worked before. bring in at least 4 offensive lineman from 2 thru 4th rounds build that o-line up. don't even have to say who payton gets in round 1 BPA im sure

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Can anyone tell me how deep this draft is and at what position is it deepest?

Last year was a deep draft at WR, is there any position like that this time around?

I wonder if trading back is actually the answer.

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I would love to see Collins at 10. If he is gone I would trade out. The Saints need a O-lineman that can play multiple positions if needed and he is that guy. I don't think MI will go anywhere so I believe we are ok at RB. I see him getting a PT type of deal (his first resigning). ILB is a concern but only because Lofton is making 10 million next year! The guy is good but not 10 million good. O-line and CB has got to be the biggest needs in the draft. I would also not be surprised to see Bryce Petty (Baylor QB) in the 3rd or Jake Waters ( KSU QB) in the 5th. I think SP has tried enough to get a free agent to replace Brees. Not going to happen.

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Trading back could be great if done right.I would love a #1, 2-#2 and a extra 4th, I got no ideal how to pull that out but if we pick around 7th or 8th I think trading down slowly it could be done, even if we give up next years 7th. Hell we give alot for Ingram and Cooks why wouldn't another team. And while I'm on the subject a couple trades could happen and we clean house in the draft, my nominees are #1Graham- to soft.#2. Bush- much overrated in my book that comment can be said for #1 also.#3. I would defenitly send feelers to teams on JR. ( do a little fishin' to see if you get a big enough bite, if so SET THE HOOK) Graham will net a #1, Bush a #4, and JR.well he might be gold but I would take no less than 2 #2

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Bush may be our best safety and no one will take on JR's contract. Graham could draw some intrest but not enough to unload him. No chance of trades this offseason. Contracts to high with to little play.

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:itsgood: ... reminds me of the late great Sean Taylor with more versatility.

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My first run - OLB Beasley, CB Collins, OT Sambrailo, TE Koyak, G Kouandjio, WR Miller, C Lewallen. Impact with Beasley. OLine fixed.

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Deep(er) positions: RB, Pass Rusher, OT

Examples:

RB:

Todd Gurley - Georgia
Melvin Gordon - Wisconsin
Tevin Coleman - Indiana
Ameer Abdullah - Nebraska
TJ Yeldon - Alabama
Jay Ajayi - Boise State
Duke Johnson - Miami
Mike Davis - South Carolina
David Cobb - Minnesota
Javorius Allen - USC


OT: (good amount of draftable talent in the 1st rd compared to last year)

Brandon Scherff - Iowa
La'el Collins - LSU
Ronnie Stanley - Notre Dame
Andrus Peat - Stanford
Cedric Ogbuehi - Texas A&M
TJ Clemmings - Pittsburgh
Ty Sambrailo - Colorado State
Ereck Flowers - Miami
Spencer Drango - Baylor
Jake Fisher - Oregon


Pass Rusher(DE/OLB):

Randy Gregory - Nebraska
Shane Ray - Missouri
Shawn Oakman - Baylor
Vic Beasley - Clemson
Dante Fowler Jr - Florida
Alvin Dupree - Kentucky
Shilique Calhoun - Michigan State
Nate Orchard - Utah
Danielle Hunter - LSU
Lorenzo Mauldin - Louisville
Hauoli Kikaha - Washington
Arik Armstead - Oregon(more of an all around DE)

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I would like anyone of the top 4 on this list, and we should be in position to get one of them. After the pass rusher is addressed we need to get a few young and hungry DTs along with early pick(s) at OG.

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Saints NEED a playmaker like this on D!!!!

Please let's not screw this one up.

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CB IMO is the deepest i have seen in a long time I believe a starter can be had all the way to to the third. I am talking man cover types. Size speed and attitude

some solid prospects through the 5th. some solid gambles from there on.

Whole bunch the can do that CB to S dance without missing a beat.

this has a good chance of being the year of the CB.

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might just be the best football player in the draft. starting SS? that would make a ton of sense. side line to side line speed and keep him in the action. He has played it before and I bet he would lead this team in tackles season 1. at 6’1”, 237 4.56 he can either be an under sized OLB or a massive safety with solid speed. take your pick. all i know is i feel comfortable in saying he is a better SS and cover guy than kenny coming out of college.

fluid movement dropping back into coverage.
solid one-on-one match ups with tight ends

the kenny test this year was a flop. he is not a true SS so do not be surprised by a safety pick. we do not have a starter at that position and we all know we love safeties. solid back ups but a starter?

want to get the most out of the Byrd signing get him some help back there. Then add a CB or two in rounds 2 or 3 or 4. talent is there. all better prospects than SJB. I am betting he would have fallen into the 4/5 or 5/6 range this year.

with him on the field it would be like having 4 LB at all times vs this freaking 3 or 4 so so safety look we have now.

He is the freak or premier athlete in the draft without all the hyped upside or what if crap surrounding him. he is what he is. a freaking football player that you can get your money out of in more ways than 90% of the players on the saints today. RB LB SS special teams. he can open up a few rosters spots with his pick alone.

Shaq as a SS/LB type sealing up the middle of the field.

i like the the mix.

been waiting for his name to pop up.

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Wouldn't be the first time the Saints decision makers screwed the pooch in the draft, but I've come to expect disappointment from this regime in the draft; as good as they are gameday, the suck it on draft day...

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I was all about Vic Beasley but the more I read about Shaq Thompson the more I like him. I see people saying his best fit is at weakside OLB in a 4-3... So would we think about replacing Hawthorne with Thompson at the ILB position? I'm sure he could line up as an edge rusher too in a base 3-4. I don't know, but I do like the versatility.