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R1 OT LA'EL COLLINS LSU
All the flashy combine LB/DL were gone. I still like this pick.

R2 CB JALEN COLLINS LSU
my #1 #2 CB was gone Collins is the booby prizes. settling for and excellent unpolished CB with upside was hard to do

RB JEREMY LANGFORD MICHIGAN STATE
Always go for a complete RB is my motto. always has been way under valued.

R4 G ALI MARPET HOBART
Developmental OG/OC for the future. besides we need Hobart in the line up with all the other small school OL we have. Trivia: name all the school the start OL for the saint came from?

R5 CB CHARLES GAINES LOUISVILLE
Gaines in the 5th? long shot

R6 DT DERRICK LOTT CHATTANOOGA
Ok the big upstart IMO at the combine. did what he was suppose to do.

R7 OLB EDMOND ROBINSON NEWBERRY
Round 7 always fluid as usual and change with the tides. here is my developmental pick of the week.


The combine confirmed one thing, this is not a deep class for 34 LBers. the few i like were all gone by the end of round 2 and the few i would reach on were also gone.

CB depth upgraded.
OL get a solid infusion of youth
DL and LB get one toy each toys

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Waynes ran faster than expected, topping everyone at the combine with his 4.32 40-time. Very nice, i like that.

Byron Jones jumped out of the building with His broad & vertical.
Vertical - 44.5"
Record broad jump - 12'3" woooww! That was unexpected. Looks good on tape, but didnt see much of that athleticism. Gotta go back & look.

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That's great, he can work out. How does Jones look on the field?

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Only time I've had any respect for Manziel as a pro was when he threw in pads for his Pro Day...

All these drills should be done in full-on pads, with maybe the bench press being the exception...

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Wanye showed great straight line speed. his shuttles we ok at best. back in my mix at 13 with Collins. 19 bench was solid

Jones is a solid player. i watched a few of his games. came away thinking man or press was not his game and zone might be needed. now i have to wonder about coaching. better at safety than CB in other words. but as a day three pick up? yep worth the pick. not a bad return man either. lats see that clocked speed

Jallin Collins looked as good as promised

Shaw looked great even if he is a false savior. 26 bench aint shabby at all

Gains and Rowe impressed also.

my boy Kevin Johnson was disappointing a bit. now i wait for his pro day. but the kid can play

Ibra Campbell i was looking forward to see. disappointed he was out. but 23 bench was very impressive. now off to the pro day. kid is silky smooth

Craig Mager Texas State caught my eye. got see if i can see more of him

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Mock, Post Combine

No. 013 (R1, 13) LB Vic Beasley, Clemson; 6' 3", 246 lbs.

No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi St; 6' 4", 246 lbs.

No. 075 (R3,11) RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana; 5' 11", 206 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 13) WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida, 6’ 2”, 212 lbs.

No. 140 (R5, 12) CB Charles Gaines, Louisville; 5’ 10”, 180 lbs.

No. 171 (R6, 11) OL Robert Myers, Tennessee St; 6' 5", 326 lbs.

No. 205 (R7, 13) NT Deon Simon, Northwestern St (LA); 6’ 4”, 321 lbs.

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They are saying we may miss out on the top pass rushers. We waited one year too late. Everyone now wants the SEC and ACC.

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We will be able to get either a very good pass rusher,offensive lineman or NT and we need all three

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Don't worry; trust in the team to throw us all a hay-maker in the first round by drafting a receiver/QB or something similar... :rofl:

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CB TRAE WAYNES MICHIGAN STATE

OT JAKE FISHER OREGON

RB JEREMY LANGFORD MICHIGAN STATE

G ALI MARPET HOBART

CB Charles Gaines, Louisville

OT/OG Jamon Brown Louisville

this has to solve the CB issue and improve the OL

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The offensive line situation is more worrisome to me and should be solved in free agency above cornerback and linebacker...

Signing two interior linemen (i.e. Wisniewski and Boling as I humbly suggested) will shore that unit up and secure the investment at QB...

Regarding cornerback, the talent only got better in that unit after a good season and then dropped off?!?

That tells me scheme, coaching, communication fell off and was addressed with Allen...

For Payton to have made changes there, even with someone electively leaving, and then bringing back Allen, former head coach, should be telling...

Really, really believe we've got the talent, depth to compete in that unit and have faith in Dennis Allen and his abilities to turn that unit around...

The line of scrimmage must be won above all else and the interior offensive line and the pass rush should be the priority...

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see both were off the board when the saints selected which i accept to be the case anyways so i like the choices left to me.

TRAE WAYNES after that combine will be gone by 13 anyways now.

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Disagree. The defensive priority should stop having the ball run down our throats. Like almost every year.

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Just look at the Cows O line ... they were moving grown a** men against their WILL week after week.

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I'm really disgruntled we may not get Ray or Beasley. What about Shaq? Did he disappoint like you'd expect from a Pac 12 defensive player?

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Shaq Thompson before the combine was 6' 2" and somehow shrunk to 6' 0"...

And at only 2 bucks and a quarter, he's a strong safety, a very athletic strong safety...

Unless we're ready to move Vacarro back to Free Safety or as the second cornerback or just move on, it makes no sense to select him without moving someone...

So I don't see Shaq in the Saints future without moving someone...

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Could Mr. Beasley be available when we select?

Top Fifteen according to NFL Draft Scout/CBS Sportsline Team:

01 DT Leonard Williams, USC, 6' 5", 302 lbs
02 QB Jameis Winston, Florida State, 6' 4", 231 lbs
03 QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon, 6' 4", 222 lbs
04 LB Dante Fowler, Florida, 6' 3", 261 lbs
05 WR Amari Cooper, Alabama, 6' 1", 211 lbs
06 LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs
07 DT Danny Shelton, Washington, 6' 2", 339 lbs
08 WR Kevin White, West Virginia, 6' 3", 215 lbs
09 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska, 6' 5", 235 lbs
10 DE Shane Ray, Missouri, 6' 3", 245 lbs
11 OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa, 6' 5", 319 lbs
12 WR DeVante Parker, Louisville, 6' 3", 209 lbs
13 OT Andrus Peat, Stanford, 6' 7", 313 lbs
14 DE Alvin Dupree, Kentucky, 6' 4", 269 lbs
15 CB Trae Waynes, Michigan St, , 6' 0", 186 lbs
16 OT La'el Collins, LSU, 6' 4", 305 lbs
17 DT Malcolm Brown, Texas, 6' 2", 319 lbs
18 OT T.J. Clemmings, Pitt, 6' 5", 309 lbs
19 SS Landon Collins, Alabama, 6' 0", 228 lbs

Draft Order

01 Tampa Bay
02 Tennessee
03 Jacksonville
04 Oakland
05 Washington
06 New York Jets
07 Chicago
08 Atlanta
09 New York Giants
10 St. Louis
11 Minnesota
12 Cleveland
13 New Orleans
14 Miami
15 San Francisco

*** Updated 02/25/2015 ***

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I could see ATL drafting Beasley

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I know this probably would never happen, but if it did, I'd be delirious over a draft like this:


13: R1P13


QB MARCUS MARIOTA

OREGON


44: R2P12


ILB DENZEL PERRYMAN

MIAMI (FLA.)


75: R3P11


CB KEVIN JOHNSON

WAKE FOREST


109: R4P13


C ANDY GALLIK

BOSTON COLLEGE


140: R5P12


OT ROB HAVENSTEIN

WISCONSIN


171: R6P11


OLB XZAVIER DICKSON

ALABAMA


205: R7P13


DE JERMAURIA RASCO

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Until draft day proves me wrong, I'll keep saying Perryman ends up going in round 1

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+1. And with newly acquired HC & defensive minded Dan Quinn at the helm, this is a strong possibility.

I just hope we are wrong ;).

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Beasley said he grew up a Failclowns fan so I'd be surprised if he were available past that 8th pick. But by all accounts Atlanta loves Shane Ray so here's hoping Beasley slips to 13.

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Or Loomis just trades up and beats ATL to the punch. If Beasley falls past the Bears (which I doubt) then no way ATL passes him up

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I wont be happy seeing us move up for anyone in the first round. Far too many holes to be using 2/3 picks to move up

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I don't want them to trade up either but if they do I, won't be surprised

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I'm sure there will be stud NT/DT or OL player if top 4-5 pass rushers are gone by the time we pick. I'm fine with that.

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Out of the top twenty (20) draft candidates, there are only four (4) of these (bold) that are the only guys I'd be interested...

Otherwise, trade back and get additional picks in the top 75...

01 DT Leonard Williams, USC, 6' 5", 302 lbs
02 QB Jameis Winston, Florida State, 6' 4", 231 lbs
03 QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon, 6' 4", 222 lbs
04 LB Dante Fowler, Florida, 6' 3", 261 lbs
05 WR Amari Cooper, Alabama, 6' 1", 211 lbs
06 LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs
07 DT Danny Shelton, Washington, 6' 2", 339 lbs
08 WR Kevin White, West Virginia, 6' 3", 215 lbs
09 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska, 6' 5", 235 lbs
10 DE Shane Ray, Missouri, 6' 3", 245 lbs
11 OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa, 6' 5", 319 lbs
12 WR DeVante Parker, Louisville, 6' 3", 209 lbs
13 OT Andrus Peat, Stanford, 6' 7", 313 lbs
14 DE Alvin Dupree, Kentucky, 6' 4", 269 lbs
15 CB Trae Waynes, Michigan St, , 6' 0", 186 lbs
16 OT La'el Collins, LSU, 6' 4", 305 lbs
17 DT Malcolm Brown, Texas, 6' 2", 319 lbs
18 OT T.J. Clemmings, Pitt, 6' 5", 309 lbs
19 SS Landon Collins, Alabama, 6' 0", 228 lbs
20 RB Todd Gurley, Georgia, 6' 1", 222 lbs

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If Vic is gone by pick #13 and Danny is still on the board, I'm running to the podium to select that mammoth of a man.

I know Shelton will be lone gone but it's wishful thinking on my part :broccoli:

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Run quickly!! I'll try to block for you.

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01 DT Leonard Williams, USC, 6' 5", 302 lbs
05 WR Amari Cooper, Alabama, 6' 1", 211 lbs
06 LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs
07 DT Danny Shelton, Washington, 6' 2", 339 lbs
11 OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa, 6' 5", 319 lbs
15 CB Trae Waynes, Michigan St, , 6' 0", 186 lbs
16 OT La'el Collins, LSU, 6' 4", 305 lbs

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I'm not sold on Cooper with that high a pick, that may upset certain Roll Tide fans, but he's just not Julio Jones, who definitely is a top five pick...

La'el is definitely where he belongs, but I don't want to take the 16th rank player with the 13th pick...

Look at Waynes and I don't trust what I see; would prefer a more athletic, physical cornerback...

Besides, I'd like variety in my cornerbacks for matchups and we already have a wirey, scrappy corner in Keenan Lewis...

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gone
01 DT Leonard Williams, USC, 6' 5", 302 lbs
05 WR Amari Cooper, Alabama, 6' 1", 211 lbs
06 LB Vic Beasley, Clemson, 6' 3", 246 lbs
07 DT Danny Shelton, Washington, 6' 2", 339 lbs
11 OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa, 6' 5", 319 lbs
16 OT La'el Collins, LSU, 6' 4", 305 lbs

this is what I think we will have left
15 CB Trae Waynes, Michigan St, , 6' 0", 186 lbs

so i guess add
Malcom Brown

so it is DT or CB.

or hype projects?
Alvin Dupree
T.J. Clemmings

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Big guy & kind of hard to ignore his combine stats (work out warrior, no?), however on tape I don't see dominance at his position.

I read that some scouts compared him to Jaime Collins.

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http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premi...t.php?d=oqasaq
13 - R1P13
OLB VIC BEASLEY
CLEMSON
44 - R2P12
ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY
CLEMSON
75 - R3P11
RB TEVIN COLEMAN
INDIANA
109 - R4P13
G ALI MARPET
HOBART
140 - R5P12
CB CHARLES GAINES
LOUISVILLE
171 - R6P11
G BEN BECKWITH
MISSISSIPPI STATE
205 - R7P13
OLB DAVIS TULL
CHATTANOOGA

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Add Grady Jarrett from Clemson as a DT and this would be a beast of a draft.

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Jarrett was the leader among that Clemson Defense. I would love to have him instead of Bunkley or Jenkins. At 6'1" and 300 plus, he has really fast feet and great strength.

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ok i will go that route but tweaked it a bit

13: R1P13 OLB VIC BEASLEY CLEMSON

44: R2P12 ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY CLEMSON

75: R3P11 CB JOSH SHAW USC

109: R4P13G ALI MARPET HOBART

140: R5P12 OT SEAN HICKEY SYRACUSE

171: R6P11 WR DARREN WALLER GEORGIA TECH

205: R7P13 ILB EDMOND ROBINSON NEWBERRY COLLEGE

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I'm liking the NT from Northwestern State (LA), Deon Simon, as a seventh round selection...

...he postrd the high number of repetitions for defensive linemen in the bench press...

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14 players that need to have a strong Pro Day
Greg Gabriel

blah blah blah

Over the years, I have seen some drafted as high as the second round, but the majority of these players start coming off the board starting around the fourth round. While teams are interested in these players because of the way they played during the season, their performance on their pro day is also important in the evaluation process. These non-combine players have to have workout numbers better or similar to invited players at their position.

The pro days are also important for the players that didn’t live up to expectations at the Combine. The players who are happy with their Combine results will not take part in the measurable events such as the 40, the 20 yard shuttle, the 3-cone and the jumps. They will only do the position-specific drills for coaches after the measurable drills are finished.

There are other players who feel they need to improve on some of their combine times in order to keep their value high. After going through the Combine results, here are some players who may want to redo some of their drills.

Ameer Abdullah – Nebraska – While his jumps and agilities were excellent, he only ran 4.61. He may want to run the 40 again.

Melvin Gordon – Wisconsin – The same holds true for Gordon. I think every scout in the league felt Gordon would break 4.45. When he ran 4.52 that was a bit disappointing.

Duke Johnson – Miami – He is another running back who ran slower than expected. He may also want to try and improve on his 33.5″ vertical jump. Johnson did not run any of the agilities, so he needs to run those also.

Trae Waynes – Michigan State – While Waynes ran fast, his agility times were slow compared with the other top corner prospects. Slow times in the agility drills can mean a prospect is tight in the knees or hips.

Marcus Peters – Washington - Marcus looks fast on tape, but he didn’t run fast at Indy. 4.54 is not first round corner speed. His other drills were good enough.

Kevin Johnson – Wake Forest – With Kevin, it’s the same story as Peters, excellent jumps and agilities and an average 40 time.

Ladarius Gunter – Miami – Most felt he would run in the low 4.5’s. He ran in the 4.60’s. He has to run again.

Quinten Rollins – Miami (Ohio) – He ran much slower than anticipated, the problem he may have is Miami (Ohio) does not have an indoor facility and he may want to wait until early April before he attempts to run again.

Danny Shelton – Washington – Every one want to compare Shelton to Ngata, but Ngata ran a 5.13 at Indy and Shelton ran in the 5.6’s. He needs to improve his speed or his value will drop a little.

Justin Hardy – East Carolina – I never thought Hardy was a burner, but his average time of 4.58 is not quite fast enough.

Vince Mayle – Washington State – The same holds true with Mayle as he ran 4.67.

Maxx Williams – Minnesota - His speed was disappointing in that he ran 4.85, 4.77. He needs to run in the 4.6’s if he wants to be considered as a first round candidate.

Paul Dawson – TCU – No one thought he was going to be a speedster, but 4.95 is way too slow. I would think he will be first in line to run at TCU’s pro day.

Shaq Thompson – Washington – Shaq plays like he can run in the mid 4.5’s. His 40 times were 4.72 and 4.69. If I were him, I’d run again.

14 players that need to have a strong Pro Day | National Football Post

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2015 NFL Draft: Pro Day Schedule - CBSSports.com

March 2
Minnesota
Tenn.-Chattanooga
Troy
Virginia
Wake Forest

March 3
Auburn
James Madison
New Mexico State
Northwestern
Pittsburgh
Sam Houston State
Tuskegee

March 4
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Purdue
Texas A&M
Weber State

March 5
Arkansas (Monticello)
Clemson
Mississippi
Nebraska
New Mexico
Utah State

March 6
Appalachian State
Arizona State
Newberry
Northern Illinois
Southern Mississippi

March 9
Ball State
Grand Valley State
Montana
Northern Arizona

March 10
Akron
Alabama-Birmingham
Arizona
Army
Harvard
Kansas State
Kent State
Monmouth
Samford
Tennessee State
UCLA

March 11
Alabama
Central Arkansas
Cincinnati
Colorado State
Eastern Washington
Emporia State
Louisville
Marshall
Oklahoma
Rutgers
Southern California
Wisconsin

March 12
Buffalo
Delaware
Fresno State
Idaho
Kentucky
Miami (Ohio)
Michigan
Oklahoma State
Oregon
UNLV
Washington State
Wyoming

March 13
Georgia State
Georgia Tech
Hobart
Ohio State
Oregon State
West Virginia

March 14
Prairie View A&M

March 16
Bowling Green
Idaho State
Montana State
Toledo (also Notre Dame College OL Doniel Gambrell and John Carroll QB Mark Myers)

March 17
California
Eastern Michigan
Richmond
Southern Illinois

March 18
Baylor
Boise State
Boston College
Charleston Southern
Georgia
Louisiana-Monroe
Memphis
Michigan State
San Jose State
Virginia Tech

March 19
Hawaii
Maine
Missouri
Penn State
San Diego State (also Colorado State-Pueblo QB Chris Bonner)
Stanford
Western Michigan
William and Mary

March 20
Central Michigan
Harding
Valdosta State

March 23
Georgia Southern
Iowa
North Carolina State
Texas-San Antonio

March 24
East Carolina
Iowa State
North Carolina
Northern Iowa
Northwestern State
Ohio

March 25
Central Florida
Duke
Illinois State
Kansas
La.-Lafayette
Nevada
SMU
South Dakota State
Southeastern Louisiana
Syracuse
Tennessee

March 26
Fordham
North Dakota State
North Texas
Tulane
Utah

March 27
Brigham Young
Louisiana State
Missouri Western State
Texas Christian
Webber International

March 30
Indiana (RB Tevin Coleman will work out April 15)
Massachusetts
South Alabama

March 31
Connecticut
Florida State
Notre Dame
Stephen F. Austin
Yale

April 1
Florida International
Miami
South Carolina

April 2
Florida Atlantic
Maryland
Washington

April 7
Florida

April 9
UTEP

April 15
Indiana (personal workout for RB Tevin Coleman)