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jeanpierre 01-23-2015 09:23 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 638440)
Too many not taking notice of ...Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA

I'd feel more comfortable with Perryman with a late first, early second than Kendricks...

And if we had to move up, I'd take Shaq Thompson over Kendricks...

lee909 01-23-2015 09:31 AM

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;Perryman is better no doubt,but I have seen Kendrick mocked as late as the third round.
I wouldn't take him in the first but mid 2nd or later he would be good value.

I'm unsure on Thompson,not seen enough of him. Seems small as a olb,can he play the middle

brees84 01-23-2015 12:44 PM

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R1
ILB BENARDRICK MCKINNEY
MISSISSIPPI STATE

R2
DT MALCOLM BROWN (instantly improves our D-line)
TEXAS

R3
OLB PAUL DAWSON (our Lavonte David)
TCU

R4
G JOHN MILLER (probably can start, backup at least)
LOUISVILLE

R5
CB KEVIN WHITE (steal)
TCU

R6
CB LADARIUS GUNTER (low risk high reward)
MIAMI

R7
G ADAM SHEAD (smart player, good project)
OKLAHOMA

blackangold 01-23-2015 12:55 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 638455)
;Perryman is better no doubt,but I have seen Kendrick mocked as late as the third round.
I wouldn't take him in the first but mid 2nd or later he would be good value.

I'm unsure on Thompson,not seen enough of him. Seems small as a olb,can he play the middle

No he can't...

He could play RB, but if you're not drafting him for that it's a wasted pick IMO.

brees84 01-25-2015 09:49 AM

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After senior bowl:

"Perryman, I think is a first-round inside linebacker if he runs well at the combine," NFL Media's Mike Mayock said.

Kevin White improved his draft stock. Impressed people during practice and in the game. Wanted him as mid round steal.

K Major 01-25-2015 10:12 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 638647)
After senior bowl:

"Perryman, I think is a first-round inside linebacker if he runs well at the combine," NFL Media's Mike Mayock said.

This is interesting however I always felt this guy is potentially 1st round talent. I would be shocked :bugeyes: if we reached up and snagged a LB that high.

jeanpierre 01-25-2015 11:59 AM

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If Perryman is a rated a mid-first rounder and we need a linebacker, why would we not make that selection?!?

Recent perspective, LB Luke Kuechly went No. 9, LB Brian Orakpo went No. 13...

So I have no problem taken a three down, special player at linebacker...

Mr.Riaton 01-25-2015 02:47 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 638666)
If Perryman is a rated a mid-first rounder and we need a linebacker, why would we not make that selection?!?

Recent perspective, LB Luke Kuechly went No. 9, LB Brian Orakpo went No. 13...

So I have no problem taken a three down, special player at linebacker...

I agree. It don't matter what round they project a player,if you really want him and believe he will be as asset worth picking in that particular round,then go for it....he may not be there when you pick again. That was a big reason why the Saints moved up last year to get Cooks. They probably had a hunch he wasn't gonna make it to our pick.

brees84 01-25-2015 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 638674)
I agree. It don't matter what round they project a player,if you really want him and believe he will be as asset worth picking in that particular round,then go for it....he may not be there when you pick again. That was a big reason why the Saints moved up last year to get Cooks. They probably had a hunch he wasn't gonna make it to our pick.

Eagles wanted him. We messed up their first round strategy. They had one of the worst first round picks.

hagan714 01-25-2015 07:16 PM

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13: R1P13
DT DANNY SHELTON
WASHINGTON
44: R2P12
CB KEVIN JOHNSON
WAKE FOREST
75: R3P11
OLB PAUL DAWSON
TCU
109: R4P13
ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY
CLEMSON
140: R5P12
CB JOSH SHAW
USC
171: R6P11
OLB TONY WASHINGTON
OREGON
205: R7P13
RB TERRENCE MAGEE
LSU

brees84 01-25-2015 07:34 PM

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Like Shaw but can't ignore that incident.

jeanpierre 01-26-2015 06:01 PM

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No. 013 (R1, 13) LB Shaq Thompson, Washington; 6' 2", 231 lbs

No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Denzel Perryman, Miami (FL); 5' 10", 234 lbs

No. 075 (R3, 11) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson; 6' 2", 245 lbs

No. 109 (R4, 13) OG John Miller, Louisville; 6' 3", 315 lbs

No. 140 (R5, 12) DE Henry Anderson, Stanford; 6' 6", 285 lbs

No. 171 (R6, 11) OG Ben Beckwith, Mississippi St; 6' 4", 317 lbs

No. 205 (R7, 13) RB Michael Dyer, Louisville ~ Auburn; 5' 9", 215 lbs

K Major 01-26-2015 09:06 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 638777)

No. 075 (R3, 11) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson; 6' 2", 245 lbs

I read the Saints scouts interviewed this kid (usually means nothing) along with a few others at the Senior bowl. What's the scouting report on Anthony?

jeanpierre 01-27-2015 12:15 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 638794)
I read the Saints scouts interviewed this kid (usually means nothing) along with a few others at the Senior bowl. What's the scouting report on Anthony?

Well, before the Senior Bowl practice week, Clemson LB Stephone Anthony was thought of as a fifth/sixth rounder...

Denzel Perryman was injured during the Senior Bowl practice week and still had his stock rise with some speculation to first round, but his injury allowed Anthony the opportunity to shine...

And shine he did as now Anthony is thought of as a three down linebacker and may be as high as a second rounder going into the combine...

Source: Grady Jarrett, Stephone Anthony stealing show on Senior's South squad - Orange and White Story

Now that the Saints have let it be known they're looking at Anthony, it may be the kiss of death for selecting him; and I'd love to take BOTH Perryman AND Anthony and totally rework, upgrade the LB interior for the Saints...

hagan714 01-27-2015 03:14 PM

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Stephone Anthony - side line to line speed. solid cover. good tackler. good getting through the wash. hidden behind a very good DL and played in the shadows of others. upside high ceiling with a high floor. many were waiting on the senior bowl to see if he really could step up. well he did and made some money. he is not the project people thought he was

solid ILB that if the combine and pro days go as people think he will sky rocket up the charts. round 3 looks good but i would not be surprised to see him off the board in the second if all goes well.

Sarik 01-28-2015 03:20 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 638777)
No. 013 (R1, 13) LB Shaq Thompson, Washington; 6' 2", 231 lbs

No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Denzel Perryman, Miami (FL); 5' 10", 234 lbs

No. 075 (R3, 11) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson; 6' 2", 245 lbs

No. 109 (R4, 13) OG John Miller, Louisville; 6' 3", 315 lbs

No. 140 (R5, 12) DE Henry Anderson, Stanford; 6' 6", 285 lbs

No. 171 (R6, 11) OG Ben Beckwith, Mississippi St; 6' 4", 317 lbs

No. 205 (R7, 13) RB Michael Dyer, Louisville ~ Auburn; 5' 9", 215 lbs

Yesir. ive had Stephone Anthony at #4 on my ILB board, rite behind Mckinney, Perryman & Kendricks. What sold me was his bowl game performance against OU. Along with Grady Jarrett. Senior Bowl reinforced my thoughts. Haha seems my LB back to back picks is sitting well with you jeanpierre. I really hope it happens. My hope is that we land Perryman in the 2nd & Paul Dawson in the 3rd even if we have to trade up. & maybe use our 1st on Danny Shelton, Shaq, or whoever falls...cuz it happens every year. That would really turn our front 7 around. Just hoping the powers at be dont screw this up. Seem to have alot of options this year.

hagan714 01-28-2015 10:13 AM

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what kind of draft do i really expect from the saints? could look something like this


WR KEVIN WHITE WVU
RB DUKE JOHNSON MIAMI
S ANTHONY HARRIS VIRGINIA
CB CAM THOMAS WESTERN KENTUCKY
OT ERIC LEFELD CINCINNATI
DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOOGA
OLB TONY WASHINGTON OREGON

ok i fear the worse.

ChrisXVI 01-28-2015 10:20 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 638933)
what kind of draft do i really expect from the saints? could look something like this


WR KEVIN WHITE WVU
RB DUKE JOHNSON MIAMI
S ANTHONY HARRIS VIRGINIA
CB CAM THOMAS WESTERN KENTUCKY
OT ERIC LEFELD CINCINNATI
DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOOGA
OLB TONY WASHINGTON OREGON

ok i fear the worse.

Sadly I think this will be more accurate than anything we predict.

K Major 01-28-2015 10:31 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 638933)
what kind of draft do i really expect from the saints? could look something like this


WR KEVIN WHITE WVU
RB DUKE JOHNSON MIAMI
S ANTHONY HARRIS VIRGINIA
CB CAM THOMAS WESTERN KENTUCKY
OT ERIC LEFELD CINCINNATI
DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOOGA
OLB TONY WASHINGTON OREGON

ok i fear the worse.

LOL .. Hagan714, man I'm hoping you are wrong :p !

dizzle88 01-28-2015 10:36 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 638940)
LOL .. Hagan714, man I'm hoping you are wrong :p !

Only way he'll be wrong is if we choose to draft 6 safeties!

jeanpierre 01-28-2015 10:57 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 638905)
Yesir. ive had Stephone Anthony at #4 on my ILB board, rite behind Mckinney, Perryman & Kendricks. What sold me was his bowl game performance against OU. Along with Grady Jarrett. Senior Bowl reinforced my thoughts. Haha seems my LB back to back picks is sitting well with you jeanpierre. I really hope it happens. My hope is that we land Perryman in the 2nd & Paul Dawson in the 3rd even if we have to trade up. & maybe use our 1st on Danny Shelton, Shaq, or whoever falls...cuz it happens every year. That would really turn our front 7 around. Just hoping the powers at be dont screw this up. Seem to have alot of options this year.

Dawson is a second rounder, and I'd rather have Anthony over Dawson after what I saw in the Senior Bowl...

If Perryman moves up to the back of the first round and Anthony moves into the second with both having good combine showings...

Then I'd take Shaq in the first round, Anthony in the second and roll from there...

Don't see Danny Shelton as a fit for us in a 3-4 which is the base I'd prefer us utilize and secure the personnel for same; really like to see us get some big space gobblers on the line and zone-blitz attack with 6' 2" to 6' 4" linebackers...

hagan714 01-28-2015 02:42 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 638941)
Only way he'll be wrong is if we choose to draft 6 safeties!

lmao i almost did that

Sarik 01-29-2015 02:42 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 638933)
what kind of draft do i really expect from the saints? could look something like this


WR KEVIN WHITE WVU
RB DUKE JOHNSON MIAMI
S ANTHONY HARRIS VIRGINIA
CB CAM THOMAS WESTERN KENTUCKY
OT ERIC LEFELD CINCINNATI
DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOOGA
OLB TONY WASHINGTON OREGON

ok i fear the worse.

Lol sooo true. Id rather have Devante.

But really, Cam Thomas could be a good late round pick.

Sarik 01-29-2015 02:47 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 638943)
Dawson is a second rounder, and I'd rather have Anthony over Dawson after what I saw in the Senior Bowl...

If Perryman moves up to the back of the first round and Anthony moves into the second with both having good combine showings...

Then I'd take Shaq in the first round, Anthony in the second and roll from there...

Don't see Danny Shelton as a fit for us in a 3-4 which is the base I'd prefer us utilize and secure the personnel for same; really like to see us get some big space gobblers on the line and zone-blitz attack with 6' 2" to 6' 4" linebackers...

Well thats what Danny Shelton is. Perfect fit for 3-4. Thats why he's being mocked to 3-4 teams. O well though, im fine with going in a number of directions. Just hope we dont screw up our 1st rounder.

hagan714 01-29-2015 11:23 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 638987)
Lol sooo true. Id rather have Devante.

But really, Cam Thomas could be a good late round pick.

i could not make the saints totally blow in the draft.

OLB TONY WASHINGTON OREGON

I am starting to like the risk pick with Tony also. kid is a baller that's all. nothing flashy just knows how to play the game.

saintsfan1976 01-29-2015 02:38 PM

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What did you guys think of Oregon State's QB at the Senior Bowl? I didn't watch it.

hagan714 01-29-2015 04:58 PM

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he did not look at good at all really.

brees84 01-29-2015 05:22 PM

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I watched Petty and he had some really bad throws. Missed wide open guys.

K Major 01-29-2015 08:14 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 639044)
I watched Petty and he had some really bad throws. Missed wide open guys.

His stock has dropped just a tad.

jeanpierre 01-29-2015 09:37 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 638989)
Well thats what Danny Shelton is. Perfect fit for 3-4. Thats why he's being mocked to 3-4 teams. O well though, im fine with going in a number of directions. Just hope we dont screw up our 1st rounder.

Shelton certainly has the girth, just would like a little more height there...

Am still processing the info...

Just would rather have a more dynamic athlete like Shaq there - an OLB that would be a lazer pinching from the outside and could play middle linebacker on those 3rd and long plays covering the middle and taking pressure off the defensive backs there...

MarchingOn 01-29-2015 09:39 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 638805)
Well, before the Senior Bowl practice week, Clemson LB Stephone Anthony was thought of as a fifth/sixth rounder...


Now that the Saints have let it be known they're looking at Anthony, it may be the kiss of death for selecting him; and I'd love to take BOTH Perryman AND Anthony and totally rework, upgrade the LB interior for the Saints...

Me, too, but why fixated on Perryman? You're persuaded he can help fix our run defense, too?

I prefer McKinney and/or Anthony. I like your hope to totally revamp LB corps with multiple LB picks, even two ILBs possibly.

MarchingOn 01-29-2015 09:43 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 638933)
what kind of draft do i really expect from the saints? could look something like this


WR KEVIN WHITE WVU
RB DUKE JOHNSON MIAMI
S ANTHONY HARRIS VIRGINIA
CB CAM THOMAS WESTERN KENTUCKY
OT ERIC LEFELD CINCINNATI
DT DERRICK LOTT TENNESSEE-CHATTANOOGA
OLB TONY WASHINGTON OREGON

ok i fear the worse.

Fire anyone who drafts a RB in the first 3 rounds.

jeanpierre 01-29-2015 10:15 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 639060)
Me, too, but why fixated on Perryman? You're persuaded he can help fix our run defense, too?

I prefer McKinney and/or Anthony. I like your hope to totally revamp LB corps with multiple LB picks, even two ILBs possibly.

If I'm fixated on Perryman, it's because I believe he's a unique MLB that can give that position for the Saints a skill set it hasn't had in years...

Now, I'm cautiously optimistic about what I'm seeing of Anthony, who'd sure be there for after the first round...

And I guess there's still questions whether McKinney is a two-down thumper or a three down linebacker...

If he's a two-down guy like the ones we have now, no way I want to spend a first rounder on a guy who's limited on snaps...

jeanpierre 01-31-2015 06:43 AM

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No. 013 (R1, 13) LB Shaq Thompson, Washington; 6' 2", 231 lbs

No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson; 6' 2", 245 lbs

No. 075 (R3, 11) OG John Miller, Louisville; 6' 3", 315 lbs

No. 109 (R4, 13) DE Henry Anderson, Stanford; 6' 6", 285 lbs

No. 140 (R5, 12) LB Jake Ryan, Michigan; 6' 3", 238 lbs

No. 171 (R6, 11) OG Ben Beckwith, Mississippi St; 6' 4", 317 lbs

No. 205 (R7, 13) RB Michael Dyer, Louisville ~ Auburn; 5' 9", 215 lbs

Well, thinking Perryman isn't there in the second round, so I'd take the 1A option, Anthony, who's size at 6' 2" is a plus...

Would I trade back in the first for Perryman? Depends, and it'd be only for a second as I'd want to mass in the first 75 picks...

Anthony, Miller and Anderson move up a round as their values rise...

Grab a kid in the fifth that's a FOOTBALL PLAYER with Great Instincts and at the least will be a great special teamer; but I think he could be better than that...

saintsfan1976 01-31-2015 07:57 AM

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I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2.

We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor.

halloween 65 01-31-2015 09:33 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 639145)
I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2.

We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor.

I really think we could have this in Baptiste. He could easily be like Chancellor.

hagan714 01-31-2015 09:49 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 639145)
I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2.

We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor.

elite ability - but not physical enough IMO. should have stayed in school. the best way to neutralize him is to run right at him. Jr already fills that roll. god knows we do not need another one

he reminds me of a poor mans donte flowers. 4 or 5 games the talent makes you drool. the other games he is hard to see on the field, he looks like any other guy out there. i still do not see the love for Donte either

scares me is all i can say. huge roll of the dice in my book. plus i would not be surprised if he is there in the 3rd.

ChrisXVI 01-31-2015 09:56 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 639145)
I like Eli Harold from VA in round 2.

We need a tall, long-armed quick player who can be an OLB/SS/DE like Cam Chancellor.

Ronald Powell?

hagan714 01-31-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 639156)
Ronald Powell?

elite skills are there but can he stay on the field and get all together.

hagan714 01-31-2015 10:02 AM

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ok were is the love for drew? ROT please. the first two picks have some really good players that can be playing right out of camp or by mid season. plus there are more than a few that can slide inside to guard in a heart beat.

protect Drew in 2015 should be our battle cry:D


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