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ChrisXVI 02-12-2015 04:36 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Thinking about the Parys Haralson resigning today I realized that he's the only real OLB we have. Galette is really just a situational DE... We've still never seen him take many snaps as a stand-up rusher. Edebali and Powell? Jury's still out. Whether it's the draft or free agency we really need to acquire more players that can fit the 3-4 scheme.

Danno 02-12-2015 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 640527)
Thinking about the Parys Haralson resigning today I realized that he's the only real OLB we have. Galette is really just a situational DE... We've still never seen him take many snaps as a stand-up rusher. Edebali and Powell? Jury's still out. Whether it's the draft or free agency we really need to acquire more players that can fit the 3-4 scheme.

Or just decide that we have more talent suited for a 4-3.

But we need to decide on a basic scheme, and acquire players best suited for it and move on from players not suited for it.

ChrisXVI 02-12-2015 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 640535)
Or just decide that we have more talent suited for a 4-3.

But we need to decide on a basic scheme, and acquire players best suited for it and move on from players not suited for it.

Sadly I don't think Rob Ryan will ultimately work out and we'll go back to the 4-3 with Dennis Allen as DC. He's already on the same level as Rob when it comes to the chain of command.

Danno 02-12-2015 07:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 640537)
Sadly I don't think Rob Ryan will ultimately work out and we'll go back to the 4-3 with Dennis Allen as DC. He's already on the same level as Rob when it comes to the chain of command.

Well the top 4 defenses in the NFL all run a 4-3. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if we went back to a 4-3. We suck at picking LB's anyway.

jeanpierre 02-12-2015 09:01 PM

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Well, take A J Johnson off your mock drafts...

Former Tennessee LB A.J. Johnson, DB Williams indicted in rape case - CBSSports.com

hagan714 02-12-2015 09:39 PM

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I KEEP GOING BACK TO THE BORING DRAFT. OL AND DL

OT/OG LA'EL COLLINS LSU

NT/DE CARL DAVIS IOWA 6045 321 5.12


ROT/LOT JAKE FISHER OREGON

ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY CLEMSON

WR/RB/KR RANNELL HALL UCF

NT/DE LETERRIUS WALTON CENTRAL MICHIGAN 6051 320 5.19


C/G GREG MANCZ TOLEDO 6047 302 5.08
ok i went with two picks for semi glamor. ILB and WR/RB


i like this goal line unit lol

Akiem Hicks 6'5 324
Carl Davis 6'5 321
John Jenkins 6'3 359
Leterrius Walton 6'5 320
Cam Jordan 6'4 287 - the runt of the bunch

jeanpierre 02-14-2015 07:05 PM

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Fanspeak

No. 013 (R1, 13) OL Brandon Scherff, Iowa; 6' 5", 320 lbs.

No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Denzel Perryman, Miami (Florida); 5' 11", 245 lbs.

No. 067 (R3, 03) LB Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville; 6' 4", 255 lbs.

Traded Pick 075 (R3,11) and a Future 4th round pick with Jacksonville

No. 109 (R4, 13) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson; 6’ 1”, 200 lbs.

No. 140 (R5, 12) CB Eric Rowe, Utah; 6’ 1”, 204 lbs.

No. 171 (R6, 11) RB Michael Dyer, Louiisville~Auburn; 5' 9", 215 lbs.

No. 205 (R7, 13) LB Davis Tull, Tennessee-Chattanooga; 6’ 3”, 245 lbs.

With this draft simulation, Scherff fell with Thompson taken and Perryman fell so I took full advantage...

In the third, no way I was still getting a quality OLB which the Saints desperately need, so I jumped ahead of Rams who are trying to replace Dunbar and Bears who are moving to a 3-4 base package...

Note: If I could somehow make a sign and trade deal to move Galette limiting further cap commitment and gain a pick, I'd do the deal for a third or fourth rounder to a team that needs a pass rusher...

Again, found another great CB candidate to develop without using a high pick...

As a philosophy and in the Saints offense, I'd never want to use higher than a fourth round pick on a running back...

Tull in the seventh, and wouldn't discount he could move inside to one of those linebacking spots...

Realistically, can't see Scherff falling to us, but he's the only guy I'd want at No. 13 other than Shaq Thompson, otherwise I'm trading back and going with Plan B...

hagan714 02-14-2015 09:35 PM

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No. 013 (R1, 13) OL Brandon Scherff, Iowa; 6' 5", 320 lbs.I was reading we need to see his arm measurements. if 32" or less word is guard all the way. which i understand but i think he is the acception to the rule. so come on 32 lol

No. 140 (R5, 12) CB Eric Rowe, Utah; 6’ 1”, 204 lbs.

he will end up moving back to safety i think.

jeanpierre 02-14-2015 10:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 640649)
No. 013 (R1, 13) OL Brandon Scherff, Iowa; 6' 5", 320 lbs.I was reading we need to see his arm measurements. if 32" or less word is guard all the way. which i understand but i think he is the acception to the rule. so come on 32 lol

No. 140 (R5, 12) CB Eric Rowe, Utah; 6’ 1”, 204 lbs.

he will end up moving back to safety i think.

Respectfully disagree re: Rowe...

In clippings I've read, he really showed something as a CB and he may actually have a higher ceiling than many of the '15 prospects...

With Dennis Allen back in the fold, I think he's the right level of investment/development selection for us in this draft...

Rowe or the Miami kid is what I'm thinking...

Get that pass rush going, collapse that pocket - that's the key to better DB play...

hagan714 02-14-2015 10:52 PM

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CB MARCUS PETERS WASHINGTON
wahoo guess who interviews well lol

DT CARL DAVIS IOWA

OT JAKE FISHER OREGON

DE/OLB LYNDEN TRAIL NORFOLK STATE

WR RANNELL HALL UCF

DT/DE LETERRIUS WALTON CENTRAL MICHIGAN

C/G GREG MANCZ TOLEDO


Free Agents signings
ILB
Brandon Spikes
Jamari Lattimore
OLB/DE
Sam Acho

NT
Dan Williams
Tyrunn Walker

hagan714 02-14-2015 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 640653)
Respectfully disagree re: Rowe...

In clippings I've read, he really showed something as a CB and he may actually have a higher ceiling than many of the '15 prospects...

With Dennis Allen back in the fold, I think he's the right level of investment/development selection for us in this draft...

Rowe or the Miami kid is what I'm thinking...

Get that pass rush going, collapse that pocket - that's the key to better DB play...

i will go back and take another look

ChrisXVI 02-15-2015 01:06 AM

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I've read that Rowe is essentially Jean-Baptiste: stiff in the hips and lacks top end speed. He's a free safety all the way.

lee909 02-15-2015 04:52 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 640643)
Fanspeak

No. 013 (R1, 13) OL Brandon Scherff, Iowa; 6' 5", 320 lbs.

No. 044 (R2, 12) LB Denzel Perryman, Miami (Florida); 5' 11", 245 lbs.

No. 067 (R3, 03) LB Lorenzo Mauldin, Louisville; 6' 4", 255 lbs.

Traded Pick 075 (R3,11) and a Future 4th round pick with Jacksonville

No. 109 (R4, 13) LB Stephone Anthony, Clemson; 6’ 1”, 200 lbs.

No. 140 (R5, 12) CB Eric Rowe, Utah; 6’ 1”, 204 lbs.

No. 171 (R6, 11) RB Michael Dyer, Louiisville~Auburn; 5' 9", 215 lbs.

No. 205 (R7, 13) LB Davis Tull, Tennessee-Chattanooga; 6’ 3”, 245 lbs.

With this draft simulation, Scherff fell with Thompson taken and Perryman fell so I took full advantage...

In the third, no way I was still getting a quality OLB which the Saints desperately need, so I jumped ahead of Rams who are trying to replace Dunbar and Bears who are moving to a 3-4 base package...

Note: If I could somehow make a sign and trade deal to move Galette limiting further cap commitment and gain a pick, I'd do the deal for a third or fourth rounder to a team that needs a pass rusher...

Again, found another great CB candidate to develop without using a high pick...

As a philosophy and in the Saints offense, I'd never want to use higher than a fourth round pick on a running back...

Tull in the seventh, and wouldn't discount he could move inside to one of those linebacking spots...

Realistically, can't see Scherff falling to us, but he's the only guy I'd want at No. 13 other than Shaq Thompson, otherwise I'm trading back and going with Plan B...

I endorse this draft

jeanpierre 02-15-2015 10:08 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 640658)
I've read that Rowe is essentially Jean-Baptiste: stiff in the hips and lacks top end speed. He's a free safety all the way.

What scouting reporting have you read?

Eric Rowe*|*Utah,*CB*:*2015 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

http://edraft.com/nfl/news/2015-nfl-...ort-eric-rowe/

What I'm reading is that this guy is a gamer of good character who can play a number of positions...

Considering what happened late last season at safety, this is the guy you want on your squad...

Reading that he's fluid, though a long strider, and at 6-1, he could challenge the taller wide receivers...

blackangold 02-15-2015 11:45 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
1st RD:
Perryman

2nd RD:
Hau'Oli Kikaha

3rd RD:
Johnson

ChrisXVI 02-15-2015 06:21 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
My first seven round draft simulation on Fanspeak of the year. Here we go:

Rd. 1: Shaq Thompson (LB)- Washington... Out with David Hawthorne and in with this weakside LB. Hopefully he becomes our Lavonte David.

Rd. 2: Cameron Erving (C)- Florida State... Comes in to initially compete with Tim Lelito for the starting center job. If he doesn't win that job he could eventually become a starting guard or right tackle.

Rd. 3: Preston Smith (DE)- Mississippi State... I honestly don't know if he can be a 3-4 OLB but since we never really line up in a 3-4 here's some DE help because you can never have enough.

Rd. 4: David Johnson (RB)- Northern Iowa... We don't know if Ingram will be back but even if he is he'll inevitably miss a few games due to injury. Cadet is likely cut because he's expendable.

Rd. 5: Stefon Diggs (WR)- Maryland... Just going for depth now.

Rd. 6: Jake Ryan (OLB)- Michigan

Rd. 7: Chucky Hunter (DT)- TCU

jeanpierre 02-15-2015 10:22 PM

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NFL Draft Trade Value Chart

brees84 02-16-2015 03:11 PM

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Breshad Perriman, no more under the radar. I was hoping 3rd-4th round. damn

brees84 02-16-2015 03:16 PM

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some tweets:

Count Mike Mayock among those who thinks UCF WR Breshad Perriman has first round talent.

Mayock: “Malcom Brown is a 1st round guy all day long.” Anybody who watched him last season agrees, was dominant for stretches

Mayock on Iowa OL Brandon Scherff: “I think he’s an All-Pro guard but that doesn’t mean he can’t play tackle.”

High praise for Florida’s Dante Fowler from Mike Mayock, who he says is comparable to Chiefs’ star Justin Houston.

Mayock: Pitt OL T.J. Clemmings should get the call in the 15-25 range of the first round.

Mayock has eight running backs graded as 1st, 2nd or 3rd round picks.

Mayock comp: Raiders RB Darren McFadden and Indiana RB Tevin Coleman.

Mayock on Vic Beasley: The concern around the league is if he has enough power, especially vs. run.

halloween 65 02-16-2015 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 640711)

I could go for trading down in the low to even mid twenties and picking up a good 2nd round pick. This years draft is good even at the mid 3's and there is solid depth in the 5th to be had. I would love to package a trade for 1 or 2 players we already have.

saintsfan1976 02-16-2015 07:10 PM

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I like the Hawaiian

Danno 02-16-2015 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 640774)
I like the Hawaiian

I hear ya' bud.;)

jjasso007 02-16-2015 10:09 PM

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New mock from Fanspeak

This mock is made with the assumption we'll go hard after Rodney Hudson (Center from Kansas City), since we need a legit center for Brees. He's young and we're in "win now" mode. This also assumes going after a CB like Perrish Cox


Round 1: VIC BEASLEY - OLB - CLEMSON
-position of major need, 'nuff said

Round 2: DENZEL PERRYMAN - ILB - MIAMI
-another position of major need of talent and youth

Round 3: KEVIN JOHNSON - CB - WAKE FOREST
-another position of need of talent

Round 4: TEVIN COLEMAN - RB - INDIANA
-I personally think someone will be willing to over pay Ingram, so we'll need a new RB. Coleman was there in the 4th so I had to jump on him!

Round 5: SHAQ MASON - G - GEORGIA TECH
-more youth is needed on the Oline. Mason proved himself at the Senior Bowl

Round 6: TYRUS THOMPSON - OT - OKLAHOMA
-OT depth behind Armstead and Strief is needed as we have Bryce "the turnstyle" Harris and Tavon "should have been an UDFA" Rooks

Round 7: LETERRIUS WALTON - NT - CENTRAL MICHIGAN
-big DT from a small school. 6'5, 331lbs. Was a basketball and baseball player, so he has some agility, footwork and hand skills

hagan714 02-17-2015 10:14 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 640754)
some tweets:

Mayock on Iowa OL Brandon Scherff: “I think he’s an All-Pro guard but that doesn’t mean he can’t play tackle.”

i am hoping at least 12 teams are thinking the same thing. heard the big deal here is stubby arms.:rolleyes: under 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 640754)
Mayock on Vic Beasley: The concern around the league is if he has enough power, especially vs. run.

same fear

Hau'Oli Kikaha
All about the medicals - two ACL injuries - huge red flag

RaginCajun83 02-17-2015 10:15 AM

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DENZEL PERRYMAN - ILB - MIAMI

quote me after the combine he's going to rise to the 1st round

K Major 02-17-2015 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 640827)
DENZEL PERRYMAN - ILB - MIAMI

quote me after the combine he's going to rise to the 1st round

Highly possible however I think he slips to the second round and becomes a steal of a pick. Damn I want this young man in Black and Gold :bng:

RaginCajun83 02-17-2015 10:24 AM

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Oh so do I, I'd even want the Saints to trade back into the first to get him later in the round if he's there

hagan714 02-17-2015 10:26 AM

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Benardrick will blow this combine up for a guy his size. He took the senior bowl hit and now he will retake the #1 ILB rating back

blackangold 02-17-2015 03:58 PM

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Either way you go this draft has a ton of defensive talent, possibly more defensive talent then I have seen in any other draft. In the first 3 rounds you can draft impact defensive players, I really hope we make the right moves and maybe trade back to the 20s for a second 3rd round pick.

RaginCajun83 02-17-2015 04:13 PM

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I haven't looked online if a couple weeks but I think I'll wait until after the combine to start figuring out who I would target to help the Saints (which we seem to never match)

saintsfan1976 02-17-2015 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 640775)
I hear ya' bud.;)

:cool:

jeanpierre 02-17-2015 08:54 PM

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Solved the personnel issue for the base 3-4...

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premi...t.php?d=qlklhs


013 (R1, 13) OLB SHAQ THOMPSON. WASHINGTON

044 (R2, 12) ILB BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, MISSISSIPPI STATE

067 (R3, 3) *OLB LORENZO MAULDIN, LOUISVILLE

075 (R3, 11) *TRADED TO JAX

109 (R4, 13) ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY, CLEMSON

140 (R5, 12) WR AUSTIN HILL, ARIZONA

171 (R6, 11) *TRADED TO JAX

205 (R7, 13) RB MICHAEL DYER, LOUISVILLE/AUBURN

*TRADED TO JAX (SENT NO R3 AND R6 FOR JAX R3)

brees84 02-18-2015 11:42 AM

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saintsfan1976 02-18-2015 01:23 PM

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Sherff will be long gone by 13

brees84 02-18-2015 02:13 PM

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(fanspeak)

FA acquisitions:

Roy Hely, Jabaal Sheard, Byron Maxwell, Pernel McPhee

draft:

1. Malcolm Brown DT
2. Paul Dawson ILB
3. Reese Dismukes C
4. Steven Nelson CB
5. Stephone Anthony ILB
6. Shaq Mason G
7. Adam Shead G

RaginCajun83 02-18-2015 03:26 PM

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Jags will overpay for Maxwell, he has history with Gus Bradley

ChrisXVI 02-18-2015 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 640930)
Jags will overpay for Maxwell, he has history with Gus Bradley

I hadn't thought about that... A lot of people think guys like Maxwell will follow Dan Quinn to Atlanta but it was Gus Bradley who put that Seattle defense together.

RaginCajun83 02-18-2015 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 640934)
I hadn't thought about that... A lot of people think guys like Maxwell will follow Dan Quinn to Atlanta but it was Gus Bradley who put that Seattle defense together.

JAX has tons of cap space too

brees84 02-18-2015 03:43 PM

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"According to Over The Cap, the Jaguars have projected cap room of $63 million" lol

raiders 51mil
browns 51mil
jets 48mil
titans 42 mil

RaginCajun83 02-18-2015 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 640938)
"According to Over The Cap, the Jaguars have projected cap room of $63 million" lol

raiders 51mil
browns 51mil
jets 48mil
titans 42 mil

Just think what Loomis would do with that kind of cap space?


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