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lee909 01-03-2015 05:09 AM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Kevin Rodgers, QB, Henderson State
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 215 pounds
Buzz: Rodgers has been a finalist for the Harlon Hill Trophy -- which goes to the top player in Division II -- in each of the past two seasons. Last season, he threw for 4,807 yards with 40 TDs and 12 picks, and completed 68.95 percent of his passes. He threw for 4,002 yards and 41 TDs in 2012. He has thrown for at least 400 yards nine times in the past two seasons and has 18 300-yard games in that span. Rodgers, who already has graduated and is working on his MBA, holds school records for passing yards, touchdown passes and completions. Fans will get a chance to see Rodgers on the CBS Sports Network on Sept. 18, when Henderson State (which is located in Arkadelphia, Arkansas) plays host to Southeastern Oklahoma.


lee909 01-03-2015 05:10 AM

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Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Particulars: 6-foot-2, 205 pounds
Buzz: McBride will be a three-year starter for the Tribe and is coming off a season in which he had 63 receptions for 801 yards and five TDs. McBride also served as the Tribe's kick returner and averaged 27.5 yards per return. He has 15 TD receptions in the past two seasons and runs well for a guy his size (he has been clocked sub-4.4 in the 40).



lee909 01-03-2015 05:12 AM

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Cole Manhart, OT, Nebraska-Kearney
Particulars: 6-foot-6, 300 pounds
Buzz: Manhart will be a three-year starter at left tackle for the Lopers, a Division II program. Manhart is big, strong -- he can squat 500 pounds -- and plays with a mean streak, but he's also nimble enough to play H-back in what Nebraska-Kearney calls its "hammer package." Manhart was one of four Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletics Association players named a first-team All-American by the American Football Coaches Association last season; two of the other first-team members -- Pittsburg State wide receiver John Brown and Lindenwood cornerback Pierre Desir -- were taken in the 2014 NFL Draft. Manhart was the only unanimous selection on last season's All-MIAA first team.


lee909 01-03-2015 05:15 AM

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David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 225 pounds
Buzz: Johnson is heading into his third season as a full-time starter for the Panthers; he was a part-time starter as a redshirt freshman in 2011. Scouts like his size and speed combo (he has been clocked in at sub-4.5 seconds in the 40). Johnson also is proficient as a receiver, but his main talent is as a runner; he will run behind a good offensive line this fall and should easily top 1,000 yards for the third consecutive season.


lee909 01-03-2015 05:17 AM

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Bryan Bennett, QB, Southeastern Louisiana
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 205 pounds
Buzz: Bennett's name should be familiar to fans, especially to those who follow the Pac-12: He was the quarterback Marcus Mariota beat out to earn the starting job at Oregon in 2012. Bennett was Mariota's backup that fall before transferring to Southeastern Louisiana last season. The junior threw for 3,165 yards and 21 touchdowns and rushed for 1,046 yards and 16 touchdowns (a single-season school record) for the Lions last fall. Bennett, who led the Lions to the quarterfinals of the FCS playoffs, was the Southland Conference Player of the Year. Scouts will be looking to see if he can improve his accuracy this fall; he completed 61 percent of his passes last season



jeanpierre 01-03-2015 10:56 PM

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Ryan Griffin is better than y'all realize...

jeanpierre 01-04-2015 02:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 635478)
more tackles are jumping into the draft also. day 1 and day 2. so you never know. OT is looking pretty darn good this year.

Donovan Smith Penn St and Ereck Flowers Miami

Premium should be on getting speed at the linebacking position; if we're moving to a 3-4 base...

Linemen in a 3-4 or usually mammoth two-gap types that tie up two offensive linemen allowing sizeable, quick linebackers to attack and force turnovers...

You can get big, strong steady types in rounds 3-5...

Three down linebackers are now gone by the mid third round; though exceptions happen (i.e. Vontaze Burfict), I'd really focus on getting at least two linebackers by the fourth round...

hagan714 01-05-2015 07:19 AM

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I agree JP but it is just so hard to give this child any more toys when he does not have a clue as to how to use the ones he has already.

jeanpierre 01-05-2015 08:16 AM

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Hagan, on defense?!?

Other than the secondary, we have no talent in the front seven...

Hell, I'd argue the backups have more talent than the starters who are only starting because of their salaries...

halloween 65 01-05-2015 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 636214)
Hagan, on defense?!?

Other than the secondary, we have no talent in the front seven...

Hell, I'd argue the backups have more talent than the starters who are only starting because of their salaries...

JP, I got to disagree here, not saying your totally wrong but with Hicks and Jordan playing each side of a stud NT that looks like a good mix up front. With Harelson, Lofton, JR. and drafting a stud ILB and another late round swing man for up front(good run-stuffer) I think we will be stong against the run as well as getting pressure on passing downs and with that the secondary could look like All-Pro's. I might look at it a little different than what you look at it but I think 3 players in the draft along with a few good FA and we could have a he!! of a stout 3-4 D. I just don't know if we will draft this way?

jeanpierre 01-05-2015 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 636231)
JP, I got to disagree here, not saying your totally wrong but with Hicks and Jordan playing each side of a stud NT that looks like a good mix up front. With Harelson, Lofton, JR. and drafting a stud ILB and another late round swing man for up front(good run-stuffer) I think we will be stong against the run as well as getting pressure on passing downs and with that the secondary could look like All-Pro's. I might look at it a little different than what you look at it but I think 3 players in the draft along with a few good FA and we could have a he!! of a stout 3-4 D. I just don't know if we will draft this way?

Halloween, the regression and total lack of a pass rush all season with the exception when matchups were against opposing offenses backups is why I feel as I do...

The secondary catches alot of grief, but when passers have 4+ seconds to distribute the ball...heads need to roll up front, dlinemen and coach...

John Jenkins' injury was probably more serious than Payton would tip his hand and I like his size moving forward; Bunkley's injury, cap hit may necessitate finding a rotation mate at the nose tackle...

The only defensive linemen I found displayed any real physical trait was Tyrunn Walker who has the best bull rush out of our defensive ends...

And the biggest, unheralded loss on defense had to have been Glenn Foster...

Foster not only spelled Jordan, he also brought a different skill set to challenge opposing linemen in addition to his own playmaking...

We could move to a 4-3 to keep changing looks when Junior was ineffective...

halloween 65 01-05-2015 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 636293)
Halloween, the regression and total lack of a pass rush all season with the exception when matchups were against opposing offenses backups is why I feel as I do...

The secondary catches alot of grief, but when passers have 4+ seconds to distribute the ball...heads need to roll up front, dlinemen and coach...

John Jenkins' injury was probably more serious than Payton would tip his hand and I like his size moving forward; Bunkley's injury, cap hit may necessitate finding a rotation mate at the nose tackle...

The only defensive linemen I found displayed any real physical trait was Tyrunn Walker who has the best bull rush out of our defensive ends...

And the biggest, unheralded loss on defense had to have been Glenn Foster...

Foster not only spelled Jordan, he also brought a different skill set to challenge opposing linemen in addition to his own playmaking...

We could move to a 4-3 to keep changing looks when Junior was ineffective...

I totally understand your frustation, it piSSed me off all year watching us get slaudered like cattle at a slauder house. Foster was much better than I give him credit for. Were missing a few pieces. Bunkley underwhelmed the most to me all year, not saying the rest didn't. If we get someone in there to collapse the pocket on a consistant level we will be much better in about all aspects, still need lb.'s though.

Danno 01-07-2015 04:45 PM

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Looks like a great 1st round with plenty of options.

Is there anyone in this preliminary top 25 list that you wouldn't be happy with, other than Winston?

Quote:

RankPlayerPos.Pos. RankSchoolClassHt.Wt.Proj. Round
1*Marcus MariotaQB1OregonrJr6-42151
2*Leonard WilliamsDT1Southern CaliforniaJr6-52981
3*Jameis WinstonQB2Florida StaterSo6-42321
4*Randy GregoryDE1NebraskarJr6-62451
5*Amari CooperWR1AlabamaJr6-12101
6Brandon ScherffOT1IowarSr6-53201
7*Landon CollinsSS1AlabamaJr6-02221
8*Shane RayDE2MissourirJr6-32451
9Vic BeasleyOLB1ClemsonrSr6-22351
10*Shaq ThompsonOLB2WashingtonJr6-22311
11*Andrus PeatOT2StanfordJr6-73121
12DeVante ParkerWR2LouisvilleSr6-32091
13Alvin DupreeDE3KentuckyrSr6-42671
14*Dante Fowler Jr.OLB3FloridaJr6-22611
15Kevin WhiteWR3West VirginiaSr6-32101
16La'el CollinsOT3LSUSr6-53211
17*Trae WaynesCB1Michigan StaterJr6-11831
18T.J. ClemmingsOT4PittsburghrSr6-53051
19Danny SheltonDT2WashingtonSr6-23321
20Cedric OgbuehiOT5Texas A&MrSr6-53001
21*Eddie GoldmanDT3Florida StateJr6-33201
22*Melvin GordonRB1WisconsinrJr6-12071
23*Dorial Green-BeckhamWR4OklahomarJr6-52251
24*Benardrick McKinneyILB1Mississippi StaterJr6-42491
25*Malcom BrownDT4TexasJr6-43201-2

NFL Draft - 2015 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

saintsfan1976 01-07-2015 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 636700)
Looks like a great 1st round with plenty of options.

Is there anyone in this preliminary top 25 list that you wouldn't be happy with, other than Winston?

Beasley

Danno 01-07-2015 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 636713)
Beasley

Agree, but the rest of that list looks pretty sweet eh?

jeanpierre 01-07-2015 05:34 PM

Re: 2015 draft??
 
Not sold on Gregory, wary of "tweener" DE, LBers

Collins is a solid safety, for a low second, high third, but our problem is front seven on defense...

Shane Ray, Al Dupree, and Fowler are all Junior Galette with polish, maybe without the SweetPea accessory - no thanks...

Melvin Gordon, pass, no RB's with a one or two, maybe a three, but our offense doesn't need that type - Peterson is a freak, they're just not laying around like that...

If we draft a WR, y'all may here my head explode and inaudible yelpish noise that alludes to the name "Millen"...

Really like NT Malcolm Brown, but not with a first rounder that high...

Peat is an athletic freak, but is his heart in the game?!?

If available, I'm Liking LB Shaq Thompson, then OT Brandon Scherff, LB Benardrick McKinney, maybe moved down a few spots for CB P.J. Williams...

saintsfan1976 01-07-2015 06:23 PM

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I'd like to see Hicks at NT with Walker and Jordan at DE.

Keep Harralson, add an OLB and ILB - one drafted, one via FA.

Keep Robinson as camp competition, add a #2 CB in FA.

K Major 01-07-2015 07:24 PM

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Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round.

Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast.

halloween 65 01-07-2015 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 636721)
Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round.

Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast.

He might go up at the combine. I hope we get him.

Mr.Riaton 01-07-2015 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 636721)
Surprised MLB Denzel Perryman from University of Miami isn't on that list. This kid will be a steal in the 2nd /3rd round.

Flying under the radar like Jamie Collins did for the Pats. Now he is becoming a beast.

I just watched highlights on him and I am freaking impressed....even more than McKinney. I have no idea why he is projected as a 2nd rounder except maybe for his height (6 ft). I would LOVE to have this guy on our team! From what I can see,he would be worth a first rounder.

hagan714 01-07-2015 09:21 PM

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23 *Dorial Green-Beckham pass jumped right out at me

hagan714 01-07-2015 09:26 PM

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what is *Landon Collins SS Alabama falls to us and we draft him. lmao i want to here everyone's response to yet another SS

jeanpierre 01-07-2015 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 636744)
what is *Landon Collins SS Alabama falls to us and we draft him. lmao i want to here everyone's response to yet another SS

You can have a sadistic sense of humour sometimes...

Sarik 01-08-2015 03:56 AM

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I would not be mad one bit if we went Benardrick Mckinney in Round 1 & Denzel Perryman, round 2 ha. Would give us the depth & athleticism we need. Our front 7 run D would be instantly improved. But wont happen. Im hoping for Perryman round 2, but i just cant see how he falls that far. Especially with the success of Borland. Perryman is bigger, stronger & more talented than Borland is as well.

jeanpierre 01-08-2015 06:27 AM

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Not sold on Perryman, but glad you (Sarik) mentioned Borland, if we had drafted Borland instead of the project SJB, there are several games (Cleveland immediately comes to mind) where that upgrade would have been huge...

It's a 'what if' statement, but when evaluating the team, you have to examine those scenarios...

K Major 01-08-2015 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 636770)
Not sold on Perryman,

JP,
Kind of curious what are your dislikes in regards to DP? He reminds me of Bobby Wagner coming out of Utah State (same size, athleticism, instincts & intelligence).

jeanpierre 01-08-2015 08:14 AM

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Perryman can bring it like a truck...actually reminds me alot of Sam Mills...

And I'd like to see his measurables at the combine; his size is a concern for me at the NFL...

He definitely knows when to pick his spots, but in the NFL, the spots pick you...

Not against him, just not sold, yet...

If he's there at round 2, I'd like that selection as a three down linebacker...

If you could insulate him with a larger linebacker (i.e. Mills (5'9", 235lbs) with Vaughn Johnson (6'3", 245lbs), then you may have something...

hagan714 01-08-2015 08:58 AM

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how about later in the draft LB that are hitter like Perryman and just as much of cover man as he is

Stephone Anthony, LB, Clemson 6015, 245 4.78
Talk about bring the lumber. pass coverage? not so much like Perryman

Then the two i am watching for later rounds are

J.R. Tavia OLB Southern Cal 6015 250 4.79
he has become more than a pass rush specialist this year also. IMO. Like Wilson he has made solid strides in his all around game.

Damien Wilson ILB Minnesota 6101 249 4.79
here is an interesting prospect. can do a little of everything and has a non stop motor. plays all of the special team units to boot. top 5 in the big ten in tackles a few stats in pass coverage to boot. If he goes undrafted the saints better bust some butts and sign the kid. he has a solid shot of making this team and playing on all the special teams units.



need to see the beauty show results too

lee909 01-08-2015 09:03 AM

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Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA
Height: 6-0. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round (2015): 1-2.
12/13/14: Kendricks has 139 tackles, 8.5 tackles for a loss, two sacks, two passes broken up, three interceptions and one force fumble this year. The senior is a sideline-to-sideline run-defender who covers a ton of ground. He also is an asset in pass coverage as he guards some receivers well in man coverage and does very well in zone. In the NFL, Kendricks should be a three-down starter.

The senior was all over the field against Virginia to open 2014. The big plays he made led to 14 points from the Bruins' defense. Kendricks stripped a receiver of the ball deep in UCLA territory, and a teammate scooped up the fumble to return it for a touchdown. While the quarterback was flooded with defenders on the next drive, Kendricks had tight coverage on the running back and was able to undercut the throw to pick it off and run 37 yards to take it to the house. Kendricks totaled 16 tackles, two passes broken up, the forced fumble and the interception against Virginia. He also was impressive against Texas (11 tackles), Arizona State (10 tackles), Washington (13 tackles), USC (14 tackles, 1 INT) and Stanford (11 tackles).

8/23/14: Kendricks played well in 2013 with 105 tackles, four tackles for a loss and an interception. He was third in the Pac-12 in tackles. Kendricks is an instinctive defender who can defend sideline-to-sideline.

Kendricks was a backup until a breakout 2012 season in which he led the Pac-12 in tackles. Kendricks had 149 tackles with six tackles for a loss, two sacks, four passes broken up, two forced fumbles and one blocked kick. His instincts were excellent as he did a great job of reading and reacting. Thanks to a disruptive defensive line and star outside linebacker Anthony Barr, Kendricks was able to make plays off of them.

Kendricks is getting good preparation from a UCLA coaching staff under Jim Mora, Jr. that has a lot of pro experience. While Kendricks plays middle linebacker for the Bruins, he would have to move to outside linebacker in the NFL if he can't add weight

hagan714 01-08-2015 09:05 AM

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Eric Kendricks i love his game. size worries me but talk about football smart and solid reaction time. among the best i have seen in the past few years. but can he take the beating? I like him better than Perryman

lee909 01-08-2015 09:13 AM

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I think will be fine once he fills out a bit.
his brother is one inch shorter but 10lb heavier,get the boy a few steaks and get 10lb on him.Mychal has played well since switching to a 3-4 ILB

jjasso007 01-09-2015 12:48 AM

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My latest mock from Fanspeak

Round 1: Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
Round 2: Denzel Perrymen - ILB - Miami
Round 3: Jose Matias - G - Florida
Round 4: Reese Dismukes - C - Auburn
Round 5: Steven Nelson - CB - Oregon State
Round 6: David Johnson - RB - Northern Iowa
Round 7: Tyrus THompson - OT - Oklahoma

Chose not to draft a WR. My reasoning is we have Jalen Saunders, who was a 4th round pick last year, plus Seantavius Jones and Brandon Coleman. All three have potential to contribute on offense for us. Plus there's Cooks and Stills coming back, and I believe we have Colston for one more season (love for him to take a pay cut tho!).

With this draft, we get younger and faster at linebacker and on the offensive line, plus add needed toughness at the CB position (Nelson plays with a huge chip on his shoulder and backs down from no man)

hagan714 01-09-2015 03:20 AM

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Round 4: Reese Dismukes - C - Auburn ??????????????????

steal. the only issue he might have with the saints is zone blocking, i see him as a power guy. but that is what the beauty shows are for

Sarik 01-09-2015 04:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 636770)
Not sold on Perryman, but glad you (Sarik) mentioned Borland, if we had drafted Borland instead of the project SJB, there are several games (Cleveland immediately comes to mind) where that upgrade would have been huge...

It's a 'what if' statement, but when evaluating the team, you have to examine those scenarios...

True. Sooo basically youre saying my Mckinney & perryman plan works lol.

Honestly though...one of my options id love to start day 2 with is
Eli Harold - Virginia

Jeanpierre i think you could really grow to love this pick. Follow me for a minute....

Been watching a good amount of tape on him & really liked what i was seeing. Im sitting there thinking "who does this guy remind me of" & then it clicks...Jerry Attaochu. Nearly identical builds as well.
Attaochu: 6'3 252lbs
Harold: 6'4 250lbs

shows alot of similar traits we saw from Attaochu coming out of Georgia Tech. Pass rusher & disruptive. More athletic than what we have in JR Rite now as well. Shows he can set the edge, but can stand to improve.

Already have my top 10 position rankings ha. Love draft season.

jjasso007 01-09-2015 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 636881)
Round 4: Reese Dismukes - C - Auburn ??????????????????

steal. the only issue he might have with the saints is zone blocking, i see him as a power guy. but that is what the beauty shows are for

Agree. I personally feel we'll let Lelito have the starting job next season (provided he earns it), but we'll need a backup center and Dismukes was there. In my draft, Cameron Irving and Hroniss Grasau were the two centers taken before him. Dismukes was there so had to snatch him up!

Danno 01-09-2015 12:18 PM

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Reese Dismukes is projected to go in the 2nd round.
I like him a lot...

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STRENGTHS: Dismukes sports the short, squatty frame so conducive to playing in the trenches. He has a low center of gravity and plays with excellent knee bend, giving him a leverage advantage over most opponents. He shuffles well laterally and is quick to the second level due to light feet. Dismukes has strong hands to latch and control opponents, showing not only power but excellent hand placement. Dismukes is strong enough to drive defenders off the ball but is best suited to a zone-blocking scheme where he can fully take advantage of his efficient movement to turn and seal defenders from the action.

--Rob Rang (8/13/14)

hagan714 01-09-2015 02:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 636932)
Reese Dismukes is projected to go in the 2nd round.
I like him a lot...

interesting have to go back and re look at him. 13 pick of round 2? or you thinking trading back up into two or praying he falls to us in the third. in other words how sold are you on him/

major reach
small reach
too good to pass up in 3

Jack Vegas 01-09-2015 02:50 PM

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Wouldn't mind somebody like Dismukes in the 3rd round. He strikes me as a tweener, not athletic enough to pass block as a center and not quite big enough to play guard. Might take some time to develop.

jjasso007 01-09-2015 03:42 PM

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Here are two videos on Dismukes from this season. One game video against LSU and another against Mississippi State

Reese Dismukes | Draft Breakdown

Danno 01-09-2015 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 636942)
interesting have to go back and re look at him. 13 pick of round 2? or you thinking trading back up into two or praying he falls to us in the third. in other words how sold are you on him/

major reach
small reach
too good to pass up in 3

Our 2nd rounder would be fine with me.

He would be a bargain late 2nd early 3rd.


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