jeanpierre

RB? No way. Look for guys like QB Josh Allen, DE Sam Hubbard, OL Mitch Hyatt, OL Quenton Nelson, QB Jake Browning, maybe NT Vita Vea (but Onyemata/Davison looks promising)...yeah, that's the ticket...

hagan714

We have a different view on first round picks as we both know. BPA wins out over needs in round 1 in my perfect world no matter how bad you are hurting at a position. rather spend two picks later on to fill that position of need

Safest pick in the draft to date? IMO
offense - Mike McGlinchey OT Notre Dame 6072 213 5.27 #68 rSr
defense - Bradley Chubb DE N.C. State 6031 273 4.86 #9 Sr

My Top Hype Watch

offense

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr

If he pans out on the hype is a perfect fit for the offense. Adds a few more years to Drews playing time. Watch him pass blocking and picking up blitzes. the offering of cap flexibility is a drum i am really tired of beating.

defense

Vita Vea DT Washington 6041 332 5.19 #50 rJr

If he lives up to the hype this year players like this do not come around every year. He is in the running for my FREAK stamp of approval

Malik Jefferson SLB/MLB/WLB Texas* 6015 238 4.57 #46 Jr

Nothing so far does not scream FREAK to me here. he has to be dumber than a door nail not be on a short list.

I still have not heard an argument of Lattimore over OJ Howard that changes my mind. Howard is the freak pick we will regret not making a first round pick. Especially when we have to pay Coby Fleener $8mill in 2018 and $9mill in 2019 because we have no one better to replace him with. cap drum again

But Latt is a saint so he has 4 years to prove that tendon can hold up.

My BPA approach history. Some crow and some i told you so

4 years and watching
2016 -LT/RG Laremy Tunsil Ole Miss
2015 - WR DeVante Parker Louiville (so far the biggest crow sandwich)
2014 - SS Deone Bucannon Washington St
2013 - LB Alec Ogletree Georgia

Answered already.
2012 - LB Nick Perry USC
2011 - DE Cameron Jordan California
2010 - CB Patrick Robinson FSU
2009 - LB Brian Cushing USC
2008 - LB Keith Rivers USC
2007 - G Ben Grubbs Auburn
2006 - OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson Virginia

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

K Major

Guice will end up in Cleveland . But it's good to see another young cat with high expectations come out of my high school (Catholic High). We've had a nice run with RB's that have excelled at the next level (Warrick Dunn & Travis Minor).

Seer1

[QUOTE=hagan714;757287]
I still have not heard an argument of Lattimore over OJ Howard that changes my mind.

That's a discussion that we'll maybe have to have at the end of the season Hagan. I thought position wise a DB was a better pick for us. Haven't really drunk the koolaid on Latt, but as far as the pick for a position.... RBs and WRs can pick up the slack for a low to average TE. Nobody can really do that for a low to average to injured CB. Just hopefully we didn't pick an injured CB!

AsylumGuido

[quote=Seer1;757332]The way I look at it we already have, without Howard, what can once again be the best offense in the NFL. It has been defense that has blocked our way to another Lombardi. While Howard may have been a transitional player at his position, he would not, in my opinion, have improved our chances the succeed as much as any improvement on the defensive side.

hagan714

[quote=Seer1;757332]As for "That's a discussion that we'll maybe have to have at the end of the season" I have to say no conclusion can be reach. I decide that after the players play out their rookie contracts.

So Lattimore has 4 years to do his thing. Lattiimore is a saint and I hope he feeds me crow in 4

[quote=AsylumGuido;757344]My point is I do care about a position of need in the first round so much . It factors in but as a minor factor in round 1

I ask myself a few simple Questions in Round 1
(If the player lives up to their billing)

Does the player have a skill set you see only once in a long while?
Is the player a safe pick just looking at injury history?
Will the player give us cap flexibility in the next few years?
Does that player fill a need?

I answered yes to 4 for OJ
I answered yes to 2 for Lattimore.

Level of need at CB is higher but the rare type of player wins out despite a lower level of need. With the desperate shuffle of the OL now a TE with solid blocking skills would be a welcomed addition. Heine site I know but a factor that I thought was a bigger need than most before the draft

http://blackandgold.com/blogs/hagan7...huge-need.html

Any was, Draft needs would change and be weighted heavier to the Secondary from round 2 on.

Round 3 is the round I would have rolled the dice a CB with an injury history
CB Fabian Moreau instead with the second pick in the third. Then add another later like CB/RB/KR/PR Brandon Wilson in the 6th

I like our 2nd round pick FS Marcus Williams but I would have added another in FS/SS Kai Nacua in the 7th or make my top priority UFA since we traded the pick.

So thats 3 DB drafted and one we are chasing to fill a need that given the talent coming of IR was not IMO as high of a need as most. But still one of the top areas of need. FS and CB would have weighted equally after rounds 2 and 3 IMO as an area of need.

If BPA in the first over rides an bigger area of need then that area of need will get banged at least twice in the draft if possible.

That is how I roll at draft time

But opinions are like A-holes we all have them

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins