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saintfan 04-04-2018 08:04 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797594)
Not that not overpaying was the wrong move with Graham - it was the right move. But not being able to convince him to come home at market value and become a Saints superstar again on a Title Run - they didn't have enough cache'...
Or maybe the NFLPA told him not to sign here and he let them lead him around on their leash (again)...

AsylumGuido 04-04-2018 08:36 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797611)
Or maybe the NFLPA told him not to sign here and he let them lead him around on their leash (again)...
Since you brought that up again, I have had a question that I have been meaning to ask you.

Why, even if it was Graham being the driving force behind the challenging of the franchise tag designation, does it bother you? Why would you have an issue with it in the first place? He was always going to work out the new deal with the Saints anyway and was not going to be playing under the tag, therefore it wasn't going to affect the Saints cap even if he won the challenge.

All along it was a fuzzy area within the CBA that needed to be cleared up. Both the NFLPA and the NFL front office appeared to have wanted the subject resolved, as well. Even if the NFLPA wasn't urging Graham to pursue the challenge (which I have no doubt they urged him quite a bit), what makes Graham such a bad guy in your eyes for doing so?

I found the whole thing interesting and really never got the reaction of some of the fan base toward Graham who was little more than an outside observer wanting for the whole thing to be over so he could join him teammates, which he did just before training camp.

saintfan 04-04-2018 08:55 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797617)
Since you brought that up again, I have had a question that I have been meaning to ask you.

Why, even if it was Graham being the driving force behind the challenging of the franchise tag designation, does it bother you? Why would you have an issue with it in the first place?
Because the mantra coming out of his mouth was entirely opposite of his actions. Because he attempted to represent himself as "merely a pawn" of the NFLPA. Because he seemed to act as though the whole thing was out of his control. Because he was not a WR, was never a WR, still has never been a WR, and is never going to be a WR. He's a TE. I know it. You know it. His agent knew it. The NFLPA knew it. And, Jimmy knew it too.

At the end of the day, for whatever the reason(s) that you and I will surely never agree on, I lost a lot of respect for him.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2018 10:02 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797621)
Because the mantra coming out of his mouth was entirely opposite of his actions. Because he attempted to represent himself as "merely a pawn" of the NFLPA. Because he seemed to act as though the whole thing was out of his control. Because he was not a WR, was never a WR, still has never been a WR, and is never going to be a WR. He's a TE. I know it. You know it. His agent knew it. The NFLPA knew it. And, Jimmy knew it too.

At the end of the day, for whatever the reason(s) that you and I will surely never agree on, I lost a lot of respect for him.
Wait a minute. At NO point did Graham EVER attempt to represent himself as a pawn. Not one time. That was the opinion of the legal analysts and I, of course, agree. I used the word pawn. Perhaps you took that as being to strong. He was, of course, willing to go along with the NFLPA's wishes. Why not? What harm would there be to help clarify the designation rules?

And, at NO point did Graham EVER act as the whole thing was out of his control. Brees did comment in an interview that Graham was anxious to get the whole deal over with. That was the only mention of how Graham felt. That doesn't mean the "whole thing" was out of his control. I am saying that the idea to challenge belonged to the NFLPA and Graham obviously saw no reason to not challenge. What would it hurt. The vast majority of the time that litigation was occurring was during the down time between OTA's and training camp.

And, yes. Jimmy Graham even had his twitter signature stating he was an "NFL tight end" the whole time. But that doesn't explain why you are pissed off about it. It was simply a ruling that needed to be resolved within the CBA definitions.

Once again, why does it upset you so much? How did it affect you adversely?

Even if he was personally trying to get paid as a WR, what business is it of yours? Does it take money out of your pocket? How does it hurt you?

:confused:

saintfan 04-04-2018 01:13 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797637)
Wait a minute. At NO point did Graham EVER attempt to represent himself as a pawn. Not one time. That was the opinion of the legal analysts and I, of course, agree. I used the word pawn. Perhaps you took that as being to strong. He was, of course, willing to go along with the NFLPA's wishes. Why not? What harm would there be to help clarify the designation rules?

And, at NO point did Graham EVER act as the whole thing was out of his control. Brees did comment in an interview that Graham was anxious to get the whole deal over with. That was the only mention of how Graham felt. That doesn't mean the "whole thing" was out of his control. I am saying that the idea to challenge belonged to the NFLPA and Graham obviously saw no reason to not challenge. What would it hurt. The vast majority of the time that litigation was occurring was during the down time between OTA's and training camp.

And, yes. Jimmy Graham even had his twitter signature stating he was an "NFL tight end" the whole time. But that doesn't explain why you are pissed off about it. It was simply a ruling that needed to be resolved within the CBA definitions.

Once again, why does it upset you so much? How did it affect you adversely?

Even if he was personally trying to get paid as a WR, what business is it of yours? Does it take money out of your pocket? How does it hurt you?

:confused:
Your defense of the man and his actions speak much more loudly than my fair assessment of how he handled those negotiations. It is you, after all, who has proclaimed to have read every word written on the subject. He hid behind his agent and the NFLPA for more money, regardless of whether he was quoted in the papers as having said so outright. I can respect a player who has out-performed his contract and holds out, but I cannot respect a man who hides his agenda. I hope that helps.

;)

jeanpierre 04-04-2018 04:13 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Free agent options running thin for help at NT for the Saints...

jeanpierre 04-04-2018 04:26 PM
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jeanpierre 04-04-2018 04:32 PM
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Needing pass rushers, guess Saints FO have seen enough they're not impressed?

jeanpierre 04-04-2018 04:34 PM
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So is it the asking price why WR Jordan Matthews is still on the market?

jeanpierre 04-04-2018 05:25 PM
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Joe Flacco better look out...

jeanpierre 04-05-2018 07:31 AM
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If he hits the market, we should absolutely bring him in for a visit...

rezburna 04-05-2018 07:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797685)
That’s factual. He better.

FinSaint 04-05-2018 08:26 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797737)
If he hits the market, we should absolutely bring him in for a visit...

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...58907013468160
What would you be willing to give the Browns in return?

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 08:37 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797658)
Your defense of the man and his actions speak much more loudly than my fair assessment of how he handled those negotiations. It is you, after all, who has proclaimed to have read every word written on the subject. He hid behind his agent and the NFLPA for more money, regardless of whether he was quoted in the papers as having said so outright. I can respect a player who has out-performed his contract and holds out, but I cannot respect a man who hides his agenda. I hope that helps.

;)
So you are pissed off at him because you are convinced he had a hidden agenda. Seriously?

What could that personal agenda have been? The agenda was clearly stated as a to challenge defined franchise tag designations which had the possibility of helping many other NFLPA members. That's mighty magnanimous of him. Even if it was his agenda, who cares? Even if the NFLPA and the NFL front office were not involved (which they both were with a bank of lawyers on each side) it had no adverse affect on any of us, so why the bitterness? It is none of our business.

All that you have been able to describe of your dislike of Jimmy Graham concerning the "tag hearing" is that in your opinion he had some hidden agenda. What could that egregious agenda have been?

As far as how he "handled the negotiations", no negotiations took place until the franchise tag hearing was complete. It commenced on April 28, 2014 and was resolved on July 2, 2014. There were no negotiations during that time period. True negotiations did not begin until after July 2, 2014. Less than two weeks later he signed his four year, $40 million extension. That seemed to be fairly quick negotiating.

As an interesting side note, the 49er's were also waiting on the decision given that Vernon Davis was holding out for a better contract.

saintfan 04-05-2018 10:01 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797747)
So you are pissed off at him because you are convinced he had a hidden agenda. Seriously?

What could that personal agenda have been? The agenda was clearly stated as a to challenge defined franchise tag designations which had the possibility of helping many other NFLPA members. That's mighty magnanimous of him. Even if it was his agenda, who cares? Even if the NFLPA and the NFL front office were not involved (which they both were with a bank of lawyers on each side) it had no adverse affect on any of us, so why the bitterness? It is none of our business.

All that you have been able to describe of your dislike of Jimmy Graham concerning the "tag hearing" is that in your opinion he had some hidden agenda. What could that egregious agenda have been?

As far as how he "handled the negotiations", no negotiations took place until the franchise tag hearing was complete. It commenced on April 28, 2014 and was resolved on July 2, 2014. There were no negotiations during that time period. True negotiations did not begin until after July 2, 2014. Less than two weeks later he signed his four year, $40 million extension. That seemed to be fairly quick negotiating.

As an interesting side note, the 49er's were also waiting on the decision given that Vernon Davis was holding out for a better contract.
Dude, let it go already- I'll say what I want, when I want, why I want, and I'm not going to keep repeating my very sound reasoning to you. You either get it or you don't. Whatever already. Leave it be. Your defense of the man is kinda weird. It is not your job to stalk the forum defending the man at every turn.

Why on earth do you care so much what I think about a player not even on our team? Kinda weird. Do you keep a 'Jimmy Journal' under your freakin' pillow with every word ever written about the man? Seriously man. Let it the :censored: go already.

For real - the next time I make a crack about Jimmy and the NFLPA (and I absolutely will do that very thing) just breath deeply, or take a pill, or both, but try really hard not to try to convince me the 'poor guy' was a victim of circumstance, or that he was doing the right thing, or whatever it is that you think.

I DO NOT CARE.

I AM NEVER GOING TO BELIEVE YOUR TAKE.

If you love Jimmy this much (weird) then great. Rock on. Your obsession with the man is plain strange. Get yourself a Jimmy GB Packers jersey and sleep with it, or whatever, but do not ever believe that you will ever get me to believe what you believe. I have an uncanny ability to read between the lines, and I don't get man crushes on athletes.

jeanpierre 04-05-2018 11:33 AM
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AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797758)
Dude, let it go already- I'll say what I want, when I want, why I want, and I'm not going to keep repeating my very sound reasoning to you. You either get it or you don't. Whatever already. Leave it be. Your defense of the man is kinda weird. It is not your job to stalk the forum defending the man at every turn.

Why on earth do you care so much what I think about a player not even on our team? Kinda weird. Do you keep a 'Jimmy Journal' under your freakin' pillow with every word ever written about the man? Seriously man. Let it the :censored: go already.

For real - the next time I make a crack about Jimmy and the NFLPA (and I absolutely will do that very thing) just breath deeply, or take a pill, or both, but try really hard not to try to convince me the 'poor guy' was a victim of circumstance, or that he was doing the right thing, or whatever it is that you think.

I DO NOT CARE.

I AM NEVER GOING TO BELIEVE YOUR TAKE.

If you love Jimmy this much (weird) then great. Rock on. Your obsession with the man is plain strange. Get yourself a Jimmy GB Packers jersey and sleep with it, or whatever, but do not ever believe that you will ever get me to believe what you believe. I have an uncanny ability to read between the lines, and I don't get man crushes on athletes.
Your ability to read between the lines is legendary, for sure ... in your own mind.

:rolleyes:

I have no "man crush" on Jimmy Graham. It is simply common knowledge why the challenge of the tag designation took place and it wasn't any "hidden agenda" by Graham (which for some reason has your panties in a wad). It has become very clear that you cannot look at this logically. I would have had the exact same stance if any other player in the league was in the situation to challenge the designation issue. Graham just happened to be the first.

Therefore, just enjoy your hatred! I'll be looking for your future injections of unwarranted disgust for Graham.

:saintsfan:

saintfan 04-05-2018 12:11 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797771)
Your ability to read between the lines is legendary, for sure ... in your own mind.

:rolleyes:

I have no "man crush" on Jimmy Graham. It is simply common knowledge why the challenge of the tag designation took place and it wasn't any "hidden agenda" by Graham (which for some reason has your panties in a wad). It has become very clear that you cannot look at this logically. I would have had the exact same stance if any other player in the league was in the situation to challenge the designation issue. Graham just happened to be the first.

Therefore, just enjoy your hatred! I'll be looking for your future injections of unwarranted disgust for Graham.

:saintsfan:
My friend you've got a problem. Stop worrying about what I think or why. Just LET IT GO. I've not seen this kind of stubborn ridiculousness since my freakin' ex-wife. You just can't help it can you? I'm sorry that you and I disagree, but you need to come to grips it.

https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/im..._93c7c550.jpeg

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797772)
My friend you've got a problem. Stop worrying about what I think or why. Just LET IT GO. I've not seen this kind of stubborn ridiculousness since my freakin' ex-wife. You just can't help it can you? I'm sorry that you and I disagree, but you need to come to grips it.

https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/im..._93c7c550.jpeg
Sorry, you're the one with the problem. An irrational hatred of an individual for an imagined reason. It just frustrates me that you ignore facts. I'll leave it be because I cannot convince a person that refuses to see logic and facts.

:bang:

saintfan 04-05-2018 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797774)
Sorry, you're the one with the problem. An irrational hatred of an individual for an imagined reason. It just frustrates me that you ignore facts. I'll leave it be because I cannot convince a person that refuses to see logic and facts.

:bang:
Okay ex-wifey - lets see how long it takes you to stop. I'll play along because I think you have a problem and this might be a good endeavor for science. Must you have the last word? :popcorn:

Once again, let it go. I'm glad you are nearly as obsessed with my opinion as you are Jimmy's standing in someone else's brain. Still, I'm not going to re-re-re-define my position for you, but I will confirm I never said nor indicated I 'hate' Jimmy Graham, but your very weird affection for the dude is bizarre to be sure.

Anyway...

If you want to argue about Jimmy Graham, call his girlfriend and the two of you can claw each other's eyes out. I assure you I'm not that interested. Now lets see if you can let it go or if you simply have to have the last word...

http://media.tumblr.com/c0f15bf721c9...JCC1r4axha.jpg

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797775)
Okay ex-wifey - lets see how long it takes you to stop. I'll play along because I think you have a problem and this might be a good endeavor for science. Must you have the last word? :popcorn:

Once again, let it go. I'm glad you are nearly as obsessed with my opinion as you are Jimmy's standing in someone else's brain. Still, I'm not going to re-re-re-define my position for you, but I will confirm I never said nor indicated I 'hate' Jimmy Graham, but your very weird affection for the dude is bizarre to be sure.

Anyway...

If you want to argue about Jimmy Graham, call his girlfriend and the two of you can claw each other's eyes out. I assure you I'm not that interested. Now lets see if you can let it go or if you simply have to have the last word...

http://media.tumblr.com/c0f15bf721c9...JCC1r4axha.jpg
As I said, my stance would be exactly the same whether it was Graham or any other NFL player that agreed to make the challenge on behalf of the NFLPA. The fact that you dislike Graham for some explainable reason does not translate into obsession by myself for Graham. That, sir, is your projection. It is your "uncanny ability to read between the lines" gone faulty again.

And it is understandable why you have an "ex-wifey" given your frustrating lack of logic.

vpheughan 04-05-2018 01:14 PM
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AS THE HAL 9000 TOLD DAVE BOWMAN: I honestly think you ought to calm down; take a stress pill and think things over. OR BLAME CHASE DANIEL

saintfan 04-05-2018 01:37 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797778)
As I said, my stance would be exactly the same whether it was Graham or any other NFL player that agreed to make the challenge on behalf of the NFLPA. The fact that you dislike Graham for some explainable reason does not translate into obsession by myself for Graham. That, sir, is your projection. It is your "uncanny ability to read between the lines" gone faulty again.

And it is understandable why you have an "ex-wifey" given your frustrating lack of logic.
Last word freak. I KNEW it. :banana:

Dude I'm not arguing Jimmy with you. I'm arguing the fact that you won't shut up about the fact that I see things from a different perspective and you just cannot accept/stand it.

Oh, and before you go (again) for the last word, which I will let you have because this is boring and dumb, if you can get off Jimmy's jock long enough, Jimmy didn't make his challenge "on behalf of the NFLPA". It was the other way around, which has been my whole point pretty much. You can feel free to use The Google to confirm before you say something stupid again. There I go, getting it right...again.

Details Bob. They're important.

Have a nice day Guido. If you get lonely later since this'll be my last response to this weird obsession you have with my opinion, and since Jimmy won't return your calls, just reach out to your ego - it'll be there for ya bro. All last word freaks can always rely on that much.

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797781)
Last word freak. I KNEW it. :banana:

Dude I'm not arguing Jimmy with you. I'm arguing the fact that you won't shut up about the fact that I see things from a different perspective and you just cannot accept/stand it.

Oh, and before you go (again) for the last word, which I will let you have because this is boring and dumb, if you can get off Jimmy's jock long enough, Jimmy didn't make his challenge "on behalf of the NFLPA". It was the other way around, which has been my whole point pretty much. You can feel free to use The Google to confirm before you say something stupid again. There I go, getting it right...again.

Details Bob. They're important.

Have a nice day Guido. If you get lonely later since this'll be my last response to this weird obsession you have with my opinion, and since Jimmy won't return your calls, just reach out to your ego - it'll be there for ya bro. All last word freaks can always rely on that much.
I don't have to go back to google anything. I know it was presented that the NFLPA was challenging the designation on behalf of Jimmy Graham. I am not obtuse and have stated that fact before. That is how it has to be legally stated. Anyone that has read the ruling knows that. But, it has also been stated that the NFLPA had been looking for the opportunity to make this type of challenge and came to Graham asking him to pursue the issue. You are giving Graham far too much credit if you think he was bight enough to know that this was something that could be challenged within the CBA.

And it occurs to me that you are a bit of a last word freak, yourself. I accept the fact that you have a different perspective of the tag challenge affair, albeit an incorrect perspective. Given you have stated that your last reply was your last on the matter I suppose this will also be my last ... unless the subject arises again in the future, of course.

:D

frydaddy 04-05-2018 02:57 PM
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Any chance you two can take this elsewhere? 2 pages worth of you going back and forth with each other is getting to be a bit much. Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Nothing against either of you, but seriously, enough is enough.

K Major 04-05-2018 02:59 PM
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Johnathan Hankins visiting Jets – ProFootballTalk

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 03:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 797792)
Any chance you two can take this elsewhere? 2 pages worth of you going back and forth with each other is getting to be a bit much. Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Nothing against either of you, but seriously, enough is enough.
According to saintfan it is over.

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 797793)
It appears the Saints have no interest in Hankins.

K Major 04-05-2018 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797796)
It appears the Saints have no interest in Hankins.
This may very well be the case, however I'm throwing it out there for other posters who are interested in Hankins whereabouts ;).

jeanpierre 04-05-2018 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797796)
It appears the Saints have no interest in Hankins.
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 797798)
This may very well be the case, however I'm throwing it out there for other posters who are interested in Hankins whereabouts ;).
Considering Sean Payton likes scouting reports from inside his clubhouse, this is a very interesting development...

How many former Buckeyes are we up to now? Needing help to rotate at the NT with Davison and no interest?

I get no interest in Bennie Logan as he played at LSU (Go State! ;) ), but I am really surprised no attempts after Suh...

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797801)
Considering Sean Payton likes scouting reports from inside his clubhouse, this is a very interesting development...

How many former Buckeyes are we up to now? Needing help to rotate at the NT with Davison and no interest?

I get no interest in Bennie Logan as he played at LSU (Go State! ;) ), but I am really surprised no attempts after Suh...
They may have felt either Suh or draft. Perhaps they felt there was no need to "settle" for Hankins. Or perhaps there's something about him that they feel does not fit their plans.

jeanpierre 04-05-2018 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797803)
They may have felt either Suh or draft. Perhaps they felt there was no need to "settle" for Hankins. Or perhaps there's something about him that they feel does not fit their plans.
With the team this>< close to a inside track on a Title Run, I'd do the deal...

And what I was pondering was did Sean P solicit opinions around the locker room, part of his modus operandi, and wasn't impressed with what he heard?

halloween 65 04-05-2018 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797803)
They may have felt either Suh or draft. Perhaps they felt there was no need to "settle" for Hankins. Or perhaps there's something about him that they feel does not fit their plans.
I totally agree. Everyone knows we need a plugger upfront. One more impact frontman and that line is set.

K Major 04-05-2018 07:40 PM
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Former Bills WR Jordan Matthews to sign with Patriots

FinSaint 04-06-2018 12:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 797843)
I totally agree. Everyone knows we need a plugger upfront. One more impact frontman and that line is set.
I wonder how high they would have to trade up in the 1st to get Vea?!

vpheughan 04-06-2018 04:14 PM
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"THAT MODUS KID HAS SOME OPERATION!!"

ChrisXVI 04-06-2018 04:44 PM
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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The #Saints hosted former #Ravens and #Raiders OT Austin Howard on a visit, source said, as they look for O-line reinforcements.
3:42 PM · Apr 6, 2018

jeanpierre 04-06-2018 07:47 PM
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Mr. Glass better watch out!

halloween 65 04-06-2018 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 797858)
I wonder how high they would have to trade up in the 1st to get Vea?!
I don't exactly know but if he slides I would definately move ahead of the clowns and panties to get him. I hate the thought of facing him twice a year. I would settle for Payne but to get Vea would be my first choice.

jeanpierre 04-07-2018 07:23 AM
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DE Kony Ealy signed with the Cowboys; WR Jordan Matthews signed with the Patriots; & the Browns traded QB Kevin Hogan & swapped 6rd picks with the Redskins...


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