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saintsfan1976 04-10-2020 08:08 AM

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Bill O'Brien is the Jerry Jones of coaching.

st thomas 04-10-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 884716)
God Lord
Cooks contract is 12/13/14ml a year for next three years. And he's one hit from a potential retirement. Why are the owners giving him this power. Its like he self sabotaging the team to bring the price down.

You get rid of DeAndre Hopkins and Carlos Hyde(1000 yard season) for whatever is left of Cooks and David Johnson and the huge contracts and Randall Cobb on a 3 year 27ml deal.

So you go from a top 2 WR in the league to having 2x smallish No2 receivers


It’s all about the cash, they already had the biggest bank to spend now they have more , they gave away Hopkins because he would have demanded MT Money. They have to resign Watson someday that’s going to cost coin. They dumbassed cooks to Houston in a head scratcher . But they can reload with a top wr in draft still on the cheap. It’s either the dumbest crap we’ve ever seen or the smartest?


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jeanpierre 04-10-2020 09:24 AM

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blackangold 04-10-2020 09:31 AM

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That's like $50m for Mickey...

jeanpierre 04-10-2020 12:21 PM

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That's like $50m for Mickey...

Mickey Loomis went to the same school of Economics as the guys and gals that write the federal budget...

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lee909 04-10-2020 12:36 PM

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Turn that 4ml into Everson Griffin
Trade all the 2020 picks for 2021

Believe me it'll work.

I ha e just reworked the Saints roster for and I currently have 5 1st rounders, 4 second rounders, 2 3rd and a 4th. And 2 1sts for 2021


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jeanpierre 04-11-2020 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 884771)
Bill O'Brien is the Jerry Jones of coaching.

or Chip Kelly? No Head Coach should have that much unchecked personnel power - that's why these teams get sideways...

jeanpierre 04-13-2020 09:00 AM

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saintsfan1976 04-13-2020 12:38 PM

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I could argue either way on Kamara.

San Fran got to the SB last year with three nomad RBs.

K Major 04-13-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 885031)
I could argue either way on Kamara.

San Fran got to the SB last year with three nomad RBs.

And a coach (Shanahan) who is committed to running (even if it isn't working) the football & a nasty defensive front 7 that made life hard for a lot of QB's. AK has a specific "fit" in Sean Payton's offense. I don't believe no other HC in the league could use him the way we do with consistent production.

Remember we had Adrian Peterson, Mark Ingram & AK on the depth chart all at the same time just a couple of seasons ago.

K Major 04-13-2020 03:11 PM

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[B]If they could just keep Cooks on the outside where he could focus on just being a big play threat and not as a WRx, then they should recoup their investment...

In a sport as fast and as violent as football, I just don't see Cooks making it an entire season ... considering he still hasn't mastered the WR route tree and has limited field awareness.

They've lost Larry Tunsil, Clowney & now Hopkins because Bill O'Brien doesn't particularly like them as players or a "fit" :rolleyes:?

IMO this trade will back fire with the Texans and cause coaches to lose their jobs.

jeanpierre 04-13-2020 03:13 PM

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Oh, wow! Maybe Kamara is headed out of town?


ChrisXVI 04-13-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 885042)
Oh, wow! Maybe Kamara is headed out of town?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...90515140231169

Good Lord that’s a lot of money!

K Major 04-13-2020 03:25 PM

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Christian is deserving of that contract.

AK's agent can ask all he wants but that type of deal isn't happening in New Orleans. Not at RB.

blackangold 04-13-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 885047)
Christian is deserving of that contract.

AK's agent can ask all he wants but that type of deal isn't happening in New Orleans. Not at RB.

I hope not, but you know his agent is going to push for it.

In my opinion we should let AK walk, RBs are often a product of the system and O-line. Anything over 10m per year would be too much for AK or any RB in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to keep AK, but not at the price of losing someone like Lattimore or Ram. Both of those guys are going to command big contracts soon.

shawnkytonk 04-13-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 885041)
In a sport as fast and as violent as football, I just don't see Cooks making it an entire season ... considering he still hasn't mastered the WR route tree and has limited field awareness.

They've lost Larry Tunsil, Clowney & now Hopkins because Bill O'Brien doesn't particularly like them as players or a "fit" :rolleyes:?

IMO this trade will back fire with the Texans and cause coaches to lose their jobs.

They just traded this past season for Tunsil, so I'm pretty sure he's still with the team.

I agree the other trades were terrible outside of Clowney. They didn't get much for him, but he was in the last year of his contract. His demands are out of this world considering his production. He's not a bust, but has far from lived up to his #1 overall pick. He also gets injured quite a bit.

K Major 04-13-2020 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 885059)
They just traded this past season for Tunsil, so I'm pretty sure he's still with the team.

I meant Bill O'Brien traded multiple picks (2 1st rounders/in addition to acquiring Stills) to obtain Larry aka King of False starts.

Those are some bold moves that have yet to pay off. He's a decent HC but I'll never confuse him with Jeff Ireland at GM.

lee909 04-13-2020 04:23 PM

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I'd bwe fitelkding offers now to be honest. Just don't agree with paying RBs. Long term contracts for Ramczyk, Mlaattimore and Williams more important,.

Get a 2nd and miad rounder if its on offer and grab another G and RB.

jeanpierre 04-16-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 885057)
I hope not, but you know his agent is going to push for it.

In my opinion we should let AK walk, RBs are often a product of the system and O-line. Anything over 10m per year would be too much for AK or any RB in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to keep AK, but not at the price of losing someone like Lattimore or Ram. Both of those guys are going to command big contracts soon.

Likely scenario, AK plays out his contract, helps us make a Superbowl run; his contract expires, signs for big bucks, and we get a 3rd compensatory pick for the 2022...

jeanpierre 04-16-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 885061)
I'd bwe fitelkding offers now to be honest. Just don't agree with paying RBs. Long term contracts for Ramczyk, Mlaattimore and Williams more important,.

Get a 2nd and miad rounder if its on offer and grab another G and RB.

Agree It'd be kinda late to transition to Murray as our feature back; unless we've inside scoop on LSU RB Clyde Edwards already knowing our offense...

We'd essentially trade Kamara to pick 'em...

jeanpierre 04-16-2020 04:28 PM

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ChrisXVI 04-16-2020 04:59 PM

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jeanpierre 04-16-2020 05:17 PM

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K Major 04-17-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 885422)

Good depth.

jeanpierre 04-17-2020 08:25 AM

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saintsfan1976 04-17-2020 10:22 AM

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Kamara should come in around 4yrs $52M with $33M guaranteed.

st thomas 04-17-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 885459)
Kamara should come in around 4yrs $52M with $33M guaranteed.


Let’s hope he takes that because I think it could be his last song He’ll be about the end of his career by then.


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jeanpierre 04-18-2020 02:55 AM

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jeanpierre 04-18-2020 11:05 PM

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jeanpierre 04-19-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 885459)
Kamara should come in around 4yrs $52M with $33M guaranteed.

Really think they wait and assess next off-season...

jeanpierre 04-19-2020 06:34 PM

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jeanpierre 04-20-2020 01:14 PM

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K Major 04-20-2020 01:28 PM

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Trade talks on Yannick may heat up after the draft ...

jeanpierre 04-21-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 885672)
Trade talks on Yannick may heat up after the draft ...

Or during the draft?

jeanpierre 04-21-2020 12:45 PM

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Curious we've not extended Kamara, Lattimore, Ramczyk before the draft...

ChrisXVI 04-21-2020 03:17 PM

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ChrisXVI 04-21-2020 03:18 PM

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K Major 04-21-2020 03:20 PM

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Wow on Gronk !

ChrisXVI 04-21-2020 03:34 PM

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Bucs haven’t been relevant in a decade and now all of a sudden it’s Brady, Gronk, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, etc.

turbo_dog 04-21-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 885736)
Bucs haven’t been relevant in a decade and now all of a sudden it’s Brady, Gronk, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, etc.

Let's not forget they already have Cameron Brate and O.J. Howard. Someone ain't gonna make it, and I'd take either of those guys.


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