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jeanpierre 03-20-2020 01:31 PM
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Bro, you okay?

FinSaint 03-20-2020 03:03 PM
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:D

Was there something in the new CBA in regards to guaranteed money and injuries that changed or am I not remembering that correctly?

ChrisXVI 03-20-2020 03:08 PM
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Good move with Justin Hardee... Phenomenal ST player.

The Dude 03-20-2020 03:41 PM
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https://twitter.com/miketriplett/sta...82576921661440

Good move with Justin Hardee... Phenomenal ST player.
Is the FB any good?

Is anyone else concerned about our lack of interest in a FA WR?

Do you think Payton likes to wait in FA to see how other teams in the division are doing so he can make corresponding signings?

st thomas 03-20-2020 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 882460)
Is the FB any good?

Is anyone else concerned about our lack of interest in a FA WR?

Do you think Payton likes to wait in FA to see how other teams in the division are doing so he can make corresponding signings?

I give up it’s been a lack nobody gives a crap about in the front office if they think we can win it all with MT I’m with it.


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AsylumGuido 03-20-2020 04:04 PM
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I'll add this one little caveat about the Peat signing, don't think Drew doesn't trust Peat that he didn't give a serious discount on his contract as well to make sure this got done...
I agree. At this point in his career I would doubt seriously that Brees didn't have a say in the matter. And I trust Drew.

AsylumGuido 03-20-2020 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 882456)
:D

Was there something in the new CBA in regards to guaranteed money and injuries that changed or am I not remembering that correctly?
Yes. It dealt with the optional 5th year for 1st round picks. Under the old CBA the 5th year, if picked up by the club, was only guaranteed for injury. Under the new CBA it is fully guaranteed.

halloween 65 03-20-2020 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 882460)
Is the FB any good?

Is anyone else concerned about our lack of interest in a FA WR?

Do you think Payton likes to wait in FA to see how other teams in the division are doing so he can make corresponding signings?
Don't know about him waiting on a FA WR but probably looking more at a deep WR draft. I wouldn't mind a FA rb. With Gordon signing in Denver probably gonna cut Lindsey. I would love this guy.

jeanpierre 03-20-2020 04:57 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-20-2020 06:19 PM
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According to the rumor peddlers, whose names I won’t mention because I don’t want to give them credibility, the Saints are waiting for the WR market to be set before they make a move and Robby Anderson’s name has been mentioned.

st thomas 03-21-2020 10:32 AM
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Mean sanders coming


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st thomas 03-21-2020 10:32 AM
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Emanuel Sanders coming to NO


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jeanpierre 03-21-2020 11:24 AM
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Interesting that Jadeveon Clowney hasn't been signed to any team yet...

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 11:32 AM
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K Major 03-21-2020 11:40 AM
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Interesting that Jadeveon Clowney hasn't been signed to any team yet...
Asking 20M per and only having 3 sacks in 2019 …

I can see why GM's across the league are a bit apprehensive.

K Major 03-21-2020 11:41 AM
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Wonder if the Saints are interested in adding another pass rusher? Specifically from the Vikings.

Everson Griffen.

Edit - or Derek Wolfe. He'd probably come at a bargain.

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 882604)
Wonder if the Saints are interested in adding another pass rusher? Specifically from the Vikings.

Everson Griffen.

Edit - or Derek Wolfe. He'd probably come at a bargain.
Wolfe is more of a DI at this point in his career, and we have the best rotation now in the league at both our DI spots...

Griffen is gonna cost likely more coin than we can spare at this point...

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 03:24 PM
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K Major 03-21-2020 03:50 PM
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Wasn't aware Logan Ryan was a FA ? …

Good corner.

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 04:00 PM
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Wasn't aware Logan Ryan was a FA ? …

Good corner.
But he's not the boundary corner as you rightly mentioned we could use; believe we re-sign PJ (who can also play FS) and we draft someone like Dantzler in the draft...

K Major 03-21-2020 04:07 PM
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But he's not the boundary corner as you rightly mentioned we could use; believe we re-sign PJ (who can also play FS) and we draft someone like Dantzler in the draft...
PJ has had some ups/downs but the dude can flat out tackle. In a very limited role, he looked a lot more comfortable at FS. I think it was the Titans game.

JP - on Danztler …. that slow 40 time doesn't concern you a tad? If a quick WR ever gets behind him, game over. He doesn't have closing or recovery speed to go chase him down like a Lattimore can do.

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 04:15 PM
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PJ has had some ups/downs but the dude can flat out tackle. In a very limited role, he looked a lot more comfortable at FS. I think it was the Titans game.

JP - on Danztler …. that slow 40 time doesn't concern you a tad? If a quick WR ever gets behind him, game over. He doesn't have closing or recovery speed to go chase him down like a Lattimore can do.
Broken Record alert: Make 'em wear the Helmet, Pads and All - then run the 40s...

Trust the Tape right? Well CD plays fast, well vs some of the elite SEC WRs going in this draft, on a Miss St squad that had talent, but no where near the depth of the alpha predators of the SEC; he plays fast, effective...

Now, will he need to work on somethings? Absolutely. He's no Deion Sanders that comes in and is a shut-down CB; but remember, we're looking for a boundary CB2 with good length to derail intermediate routes...

He's very much in the mould of a Richard Sherman type/style of CB; watch and trust what you see on tape...

That type of player allows our pass rush to get after it as well...

jeanpierre 03-21-2020 04:19 PM
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RefsRobbedUs 03-21-2020 06:22 PM
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We need a slot cb. I feel we are good on the perimeters with Jenkins and Lattimore. That's why we went after Harris.

Rhodes and Jimmy Smith 2 good perimeter guys are still out there. Jimmy is always hurt . I don't see many slot guys available Logan is solid but looking for 10m I read.

I would try to sign Darby cheap on a 1 year prove it deal he is 26 maybe a change of scenery bodes well for him

ChrisXVI 03-21-2020 07:42 PM
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So just a quick update on this... we’re still looking at a 3rd round comp pick next year for losing Teddy Bridgewater!

jeanpierre 03-22-2020 04:53 AM
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We need a slot cb. I feel we are good on the perimeters with Jenkins and Lattimore. That's why we went after Harris.

Rhodes and Jimmy Smith 2 good perimeter guys are still out there. Jimmy is always hurt . I don't see many slot guys available Logan is solid but looking for 10m I read.

I would try to sign Darby cheap on a 1 year prove it deal he is 26 maybe a change of scenery bodes well for him
May I suggest taking a look at the current projected depth chart as a road map of sorts to see where we are...
NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 21 - Patrick Robinson
RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020)
FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton
SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020)
LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins

Now, We have NCB C.J. Gardner, NCB Patrick Robinson, SS Malcolm Jenkins, that can currently play in the slot per the projected depth chart showing what we currently have under contract for 2020...

Boundary CBs? Lattimore and Jenkins - that's it. Justin Hardee has likely reached his ceiling as a core special teamer though his effort to learn the position has been admirable - but that's all you have under contract...

One year prove it deal with Darby? No Thanks. That POS was involved with two sexual assault allegations with Jameis Winston, offering questionable alibi's. FSU settled on one, NFL Suspended Winston on the other...

Bringing back P.J. Williams makes more sense for these reasons:

  • P.J. knows the system and has game experience at CB2...

  • An effective boundary CB with some good, but inconsistent games...

  • Proven to be a very good slot SB by multiple grading systems...

  • Surprised with versatility by playing FS when Mr. Marcus was injured in-game...

Sign P.J., Extend Marshon Lattimore, Draft a Boundary CB...

jeanpierre 03-22-2020 05:26 AM
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So just a quick update on this... we’re still looking at a 3rd round comp pick next year for losing Teddy Bridgewater!
Just looking at the numbers, can see a situation where retaining Kamara is not feasible to the salary cap and he nets us a 3rd round pick next season...

ChrisXVI 03-22-2020 10:20 AM
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I guess we liked what we saw when he was here last season. Great depth piece. Also frees up Gardner-Johnson to just focus on the nickel CB spot.

lee909 03-22-2020 11:02 AM
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Decent vet depth pick up

jeanpierre 03-22-2020 01:55 PM
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jeanpierre 03-22-2020 10:00 PM
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Sure this had nothing to do with his market drying up...

jeanpierre 03-23-2020 07:10 AM
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jeanpierre 03-23-2020 09:19 AM
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Looking at the current Depth Chart, and going with previous seasons' norms, we've still to sign/draft at least the following:

Four (4) CBs

One (1) LBer (maybe more with so many mending)

One (1) DE

Four (4) IOL

Two (2) OTs

Five (5) WRs

Three (3) RBs

Two (2) QBs

I'd really like us to bring back PJ Williams, and take a look at:

https://walterfootball.com/images/fball/coltsb_logo.gif Jonathan Williams, RB, Colts. Age: 26

https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...iefsb_logo.gifSpencer Ware, RB, Chiefs. Age: 28

https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...tansb_logo.gifKamalei Correa, LB, Titans. Age: 26

https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...intsb_logo.gifP.J. Williams, CB, Saints. Age: 27

https://walterfootball.com/images/fb...antsb_logo.gifAlec Ogletree, LB, Giants. Age: 28

jeanpierre 03-23-2020 10:10 AM
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K Major 03-23-2020 10:43 AM
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Good for PJ Walker. He's been extremely impressive.

Hope he makes the final 53 man roster.

K Major 03-23-2020 10:45 AM
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Kind of surprised Olgetree remains unsigned in Free Agency land.

He can help a team.

BTW, Saints still need to fill a void left by AJ Klein.

jeanpierre 03-23-2020 11:18 AM
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Kind of surprised Olgetree remains unsigned in Free Agency land.

He can help a team.

BTW, Saints still need to fill a void left by AJ Klein.
They probably feel Anzalone gives them more in the middle than Ogletree would...

But I'm surprised as well; Ogletree and representation may be looking for more money than the market is willing to pay; he's had his big payday already, so he's not in a rush to sign...

K Major 03-23-2020 11:58 AM
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[B]They probably feel Anzalone gives them more in the middle than Ogletree would...
If the Saints don't go for a mid tier type linebacker in Free Agency, it could very well have us aiming for a LB in the 1st round. There is Demario, then a bunch of injury prone guys on the current roster.

ChrisXVI 03-23-2020 03:22 PM
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Undrafted free agent two years ago out of USF.

ChrisXVI 03-23-2020 04:11 PM
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Noah Spence returns...


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