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We need more pass rushers... DT or DE doesn't matter, but we need legit pass rushers not guys we are hoping can make a impact. If we let Brady sit back in the pocket with all day to throw we won't have a chance no matter how good our DBs are.
We are now in the best division in football, and it's the best because of the QBs that each team has. There is no better set of QBs in any division. If we can't run the ball and get a pass rush it'll be another wasted season for Drew and co. |
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Go get Clowney or Everson Griffen. I don’t care how much they cost. We can’t potentially rely on any rookies with no offseason program.
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The NFC South ... will be much more competitive in 2020.
As B&G stated, gotta find another legit pass rusher. Ryan, Brady will slice you up if they have time to throw. Trey Hendrickson cannot set the edge and Davenport's health is still a question mark. |
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I'd be down with the Clown.
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If I'm Clowney's agent, knowing my client, I'd advise him to turn down "one year" or "prove it deals" because that's all he'll get till he can't play no more - so he wants guaranteed Big Mo'...
We shouldn't be those guys... |
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On the flip side, I'd still take a flyer on a proven vet that can get to the QB … consistently. Clay Matthews had 8 sacks (rotational role) in 13 games, 37 tackles and 2 forced fumbles and could come cheap. |
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Clay Matthews makes alot of sense.
Clowne has never been close to what was expected of him, yet in his mind he is that and more. Griffen would be great too |
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A young, fresh pass rusher, or a nasty young guard, or a quick young linebacker - that could be all the difference in the post-season... We won in 2009 with a fortunate draft haul in 2006; fast-forward to 2020, a few years out from 2017 draft - it's the success of rookies in roster turnover that metes out success in the postseason... Got have good rookies... |
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Outside of Cameron Jordan, we don't have that player on the other side. When the post season rolls around, you better pack pass rushers that can get in the back field quickly. Even mediocre QB's (see w/c game Kurt Cousins :rolleyes:) can slice you up if they have time. Again, who do you target in Free Agency or are you satisfied with Spence, Granderson, Trey H and often injured Davenport? |
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Davenort Often injured?
Look at the Pro Football Reference Statistics Clowney missed 15 games in his first 2 years 4.5 sacks 0 forced fumbles Davenport missed 6 games in his first 2 years 10.5 sacks 4 forced fumbles Perception ISN'T REALITY |
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God forbid anything happens (played hurt vs Vikes playoffs) to Cam Jordan in 2020. Guy plays almost every defensive snap.
Davenport is a physical freak but he has to stay healthy. |
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Bottom line we have 2 solid pass rushers, both DEs, if we lose one then the other gets double teamed and our pass rush is gone. There isn’t much on the free agent market when it comes to DTs so I am hoping one falls to us in the draft. |
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The fact that none of these guys signed yet suggests they're asking too much guaranteed money or there A.J. may not fall to us as an option in the draft...
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I think the Jags may eventually trade Yannick Ngakoue.
Last I read they were open to offers on Leonard Fournette as well. |
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Too bad the Saints aren't "interested" in Yannick.
He's never had less than 8 sacks & has 4 forced fumbles in 3 out of 4 seasons as a Pro. 13 tackles for losses in consecutive years & good against the run. Stud and only 25. Can we select one in the draft please? |
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One, Yannick can do the hardest task for a DE very well, get the passer on the ground, and he wants top money for doing it... But there are liabilities to his game - he can't secure the edge, play-action pass slows his pass rush waaaay down, and he's not consistent with pressure - so he's boon or bust... Then there's cap cost to keep 'em (you're not giving away a first round pick on a one year rental), and with cap hits of other D-Linemen, Yannick Ngakoue is cost prohibitive... The Draft is the only realistic solution to improve the pass rush; and if we're real honest, no matter how you fall on the Davenport Debate, he's not finished a season yet when needed most... Trey gives great effort as a late 3rd round talent, but this is Trey's last season on his rookie contract, so that's another reason to address the position... Granderson is raw, at least another season, maybe two before he's a reliable edge defender; best case - it'll be end of this season before he's productive in Nascar sub-packages... We've got to get an available Edge Defender and it's my belief, though I still don't trust some of these models, that Epenesa will fall and is the answer to this lack of pass rush... |
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As for Trey ... good rotational guy, never quits but he's simply not good enough to put QB's on their a**. Time for someone else to challenge his spot. Granderson, Spence & Davenport are still question marks off the edge. If the Saints are truly pushing all of their chips (M Jenkins, E Sanders) to the front of table in 2020, I'd bring in a proven vet to come off the edge. Gotta pack some goons once the playoff starts. As we know, it's a totally different animal vs the reg season. |
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Just realised Ron Leary is a free agent.
Would be a upgrade on Easton maybe, can clear 4ml cutting Easton. Would be worth a look maybe, especially with Armstead injury history and Peat likely to get pushed out. Probably too late for a move now. |
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The local talking heads here in Denver can't stand the guy. I'll take Easton.
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So who do we think will be the QB signed to fill out the roster and let Taysom be Taysom on game day
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Oh God Houston... I feel so sorry for your fans. |
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Cooks contract is 12/13/14ml a year for next three years. And he's one hit from a potential retirement. Why are the owners giving him this power. Its like he self sabotaging the team to bring the price down. You get rid of DeAndre Hopkins and Carlos Hyde(1000 yard season) for whatever is left of Cooks and David Johnson and the huge contracts and Randall Cobb on a 3 year 27ml deal. So you go from a top 2 WR in the league to having 2x smallish No2 receivers |
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Just looked at the Texans WRs
Its a great complimentary core Stills, Fuller, Cobb, Cooks. Of all the experienced receivers they have Stills is the biggest at 6'1. Could see Watson demanding a trade in the next 2 years |
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O'Brien is going to hang himself out of a job. |
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Bold move. |
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Wow. We're almost certainly in the running for Deshaun Watson then.
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If they could just keep Cooks on the outside where he could focus on just being a big play threat and not as a WRx, then they should recoup their investment...
It'd take a couple of seasons before Cooks fortitude of taking a blow to the head could be tested... The guy that I really feel for in Planet Houston is J.J. Watt... Probably the Best Defensive End in the last twenty-five years and will never get to sniff a Superbowl because of a Head Coach with unlimited personnel power... Where've we heard that before? |
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