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jeanpierre 02-26-2022 11:11 AM
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K Major 02-26-2022 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945855)
Artie Burns? He's been roasted, grilled & smoked more than your average brisket.

Man, this guy is reaching for backup options at CB.

FinSaint 02-26-2022 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945845)
Zach Ertz

OJ Howard

Dalton Schultz

Mike Gesicki



Free Agent Tight Ends & HUGE upgrades over what we have in the building now.
I would love adding Gesicki, but I doubt that's possible.

lee909 02-26-2022 05:56 PM
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I'd rather keep Williams in the building that spending on any of the TE or WR
You can replace them in the draft easier than finding a Safety that can do what Marcus can.

AsylumGuido 02-26-2022 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 945873)
I'd rather keep Williams in the building that spending on any of the TE or WR
You can replace them in the draft easier than finding a Safety that can do what Marcus can.
If we can work a long term deal with Williams it can be structured in a way where the 2022 hit can be minimal and keep plenty of room for free agents such as a WR and/or TE.

jeanpierre 02-26-2022 09:12 PM
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Said this before, prior to reworking the Ramczyk and Thomas contracts, the Saints can regain $100M in cap space fully converting those contracts that can be reworked...

So, we can gain about ~$23M in cap space for this fiscal year; that said, I prefer the team start working the team's cap structure to minimize how much is rolled forward...

That way we're not in a situation where we're losing Trey Hendrickson or Vonn Bell; though Sean signed old, slow, coverage liability Malcolm Jenkins to replace Vonn Bell...

So we could easily have room for Marcus Williams and maybe another key acquisition like a WRz or a TE; and even those contracts could be structured team cap friendly...

K Major 02-27-2022 08:59 AM
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A name that’s surfaced as of late …

Chris Godwin.

Boston Saint 02-27-2022 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945880)
A name that’s surfaced as of late …

Chris Godwin.
What’s his injury update and return schedule do you know ?

K Major 02-27-2022 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945881)
What’s his injury update and return schedule do you know ?
Per Dr. James Andrews medical team, mid to late Sept … unless there are any set backs.

Same goes for Dallas WR & Free Agent Michael Gallup.

AsylumGuido 02-27-2022 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945882)
Per Dr. James Andrews medical team, mid to late Sept … unless there are any set backs.

Same goes for Dallas WR & Free Agent Michael Gallup.
Yeah, heard the same. I just can't see us waiting until September to make a move on a free agent WR. At least not one that can be counted on as part of the foundation of the WR corps. Sure, a deal could be made contingent on a successful recovery, but that's taking a gamble on losing out on healthy options available as soon as March 16th, the beginning of the free agent cycle.

Boston Saint 02-27-2022 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945882)
Per Dr. James Andrews medical team, mid to late Sept … unless there are any set backs.

Same goes for Dallas WR & Free Agent Michael Gallup.
Seems likes there are more viable FA options at WR than there are at
other offense positions (RB, QB, TE)..all of which the team needs help at. I can see a FA signing there as good investment. Godwin included.

jeanpierre 02-28-2022 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945885)
Seems likes there are more viable FA options at WR than there are at
other offense positions (RB, QB, TE)..all of which the team needs help at. I can see a FA signing there as good investment. Godwin included.
The premium will be good to elite offensive linemen, and you're only getting those in the draft this year, especially with the limited cap room...

There are some additions that could be made to WR that would more than improve what we have now and with a flooded FA market, at a cap friendly price...

And if we miss on a WR in the first round, then we're really in a bind...

But I agree, we've got to address WR in both FA and Draft, just not convinced we got to do it in the draft on Day 1; especially when we've been better on WR on Day 2...

And I get the frustration of why so many want to get it done on Day 1, but I'm not sold on some of the Day 1 grades on some of these WRs when they were exposed in bowl games...

ChrisXVI 02-28-2022 08:12 PM
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A little QB speculation…

Boston Saint 02-28-2022 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 945978)
I guess forgot how young he still is. For that matter Mariota is only 28. Not saying I want him i’m just comparing ages.

saintfan 02-28-2022 08:56 PM
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I'd take a flier on him.

jeanpierre 02-28-2022 09:18 PM
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K Major 02-28-2022 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945981)
Off season drama 🎭 is right.

No one wants to hear about Rodgers for the next 3 1/2 months.

AsylumGuido 03-02-2022 09:44 AM
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jeanpierre 03-02-2022 09:52 AM
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jeanpierre 03-02-2022 10:14 AM
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AsylumGuido 03-02-2022 12:09 PM
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Worth a look at least.

stickman 03-02-2022 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946065)
One might argue the "villain" was the ref who didn't call the offensive pass interference on that play.

Rugby Saint II 03-02-2022 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946057)
Not getting any trade offers for Rodgers? So, no one wants the man bun as the face of the franchise? Maybe he would look more attractive if he had a shot! Lol

jeanpierre 03-02-2022 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 946077)
Not getting any trade offers for Rodgers? So, no one wants the man bun as the face of the franchise? Maybe he would look more attractive if he had a shot! Lol
That's why I posted it. Gonna enjoy watching GB bid against themselves...

jeanpierre 03-02-2022 10:44 PM
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WR Jarvis Landry may become a free agent...

AsylumGuido 03-03-2022 11:38 AM
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saintfan 03-03-2022 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946150)
Nothing to do with FA here. Just because you love twitter doesn't mean others care as much. How about not sharing your own twitter feed with the world?

K Major 03-03-2022 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946110)
WR Jarvis Landry may become a free agent...

https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/sta...43399974514696
Jarvis was dawg, right in our backyard coming out of college ... now (injuries) not so much.

The 2014 Saints draft class (minus Brandin Cooks) was horrible.

Both Landry and Allen Robinson were still on the board in Rd 2.

Our scouts/coaches thought better of it and drafted a dud from Nebraska with the french name :rolleyes:

But I digress.

K Major 03-03-2022 03:21 PM
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Looking at TA numbers, his dead cap is 13M if he leaves.

Damn :disgusted:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...rmstead-12356/

AsylumGuido 03-03-2022 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946163)
Looking at TA numbers, his dead cap is 13M if he leaves.

Damn :disgusted:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...rmstead-12356/
All the more reason to work out a deal with him and keep him. He's still an elite LT.

jeanpierre 03-03-2022 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946163)
Looking at TA numbers, his dead cap is 13M if he leaves.

Damn :disgusted:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...rmstead-12356/
It's dead money no matter - time to get younger, faster, stronger, available linemen in the draft that won't cost as much...

jeanpierre 03-04-2022 09:42 AM
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K Major 03-04-2022 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946221)
Kinda sucks for us. With the void of Amari, good ole Jerrah & Stephen will probably snag a WR that we have our eye on in Day 2.

Their scouts probably see the pool of talent (2022 combine) @ WR & came to their senses.

Amari is expensive.

AsylumGuido 03-04-2022 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946221)
This is a perfect example of how the structure of contracts can affect the ability to retain key player. Cooper's $100 million five year contract has straight base salaries of $20 each of his last four years. There are no roster bonuses as part of the $100 million. No workout bonuses. It appears that the base salary isn't written with a team unilateral conversion option.

These are all common components used by Harley and Loomis in the average Saints contract construction giving the easy ability to readily free cap when needed. With the same $100 million outlay they have the ability to reduce that $20 million cap hit with a simple restructure in year three and retain the player with only a $7 million cap hit freeing up $13 million. On the other hand, the Cowboys may be forced to release the player while still taking a $6 million cap in in dead money from his initial $10 million signing bonus. They only free up $14 million in cap AND lose the player.

All the details are here on Spotrac.

jeanpierre 03-04-2022 12:45 PM
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lee909 03-04-2022 03:55 PM
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Not sure why anyone would trade or sign a highly paid WR1 these days.
The talent available in Rounds 1-3 of the draft is just too good,especially with rookie cap numbers. |Don't get me wrong if you have alot of great players inc a QB on a rookie deal then do it, but for 60% of the league why

ChrisXVI 03-04-2022 08:29 PM
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jeanpierre 03-05-2022 05:01 AM
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The good thing about guys like Amari Cooper being released is that the market for WRs is going to be even more flooded and that will drive down signing costs...

jeanpierre 03-06-2022 10:49 AM
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