New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com
Page 31 of 58 « First 21222324252627282930 31 32333435363738394041 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/99964-2022-nfl-free-agency-new-orleans-saints.html)

Crusader 01-19-2022 02:56 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 942205)
Considering Adebo opted out of playing football last season - it was always going to be a bit of a challenge getting used to the level of play in the NFL.

If he had played the previous season, he probably would have gone a lot higher in the draft.
I think Adebo had a tremendous year for a rookie CB. One of the hardest positions on the field to play. I think that with him and Lattimore on the outside and Williams and CJGJ on the inside we will be a team that other teams won't like to pass against.

vpheughan 01-19-2022 06:37 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 942195)
Suddenly being $60 million over the cap is not an issue. Think these guys are going for the league min?

AsylumGuido 01-19-2022 07:56 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 942208)
That is truly amazing. Knee injuries are not what they used to be.
And not only knees. Look how quickly Kwon Alexander returned from that torn Achilles in Week 16 last December and play once again at a high level. That would have cost a player the following season under previous scenarios.

AsylumGuido 01-19-2022 07:58 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 942209)
I think Adebo had a tremendous year for a rookie CB. One of the hardest positions on the field to play. I think that with him and Lattimore on the outside and Williams and CJGJ on the inside we will be a team that other teams won't like to pass against.
They already don't like to run against us. :D Not a bad position to be in.

AsylumGuido 01-19-2022 08:49 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Bring back PJ?

K Major 01-19-2022 10:07 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
I know we can't keep everyone, however ...

Don't want to lose PJ Williams.

jeanpierre 01-19-2022 11:00 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 942209)
I think Adebo had a tremendous year for a rookie CB. One of the hardest positions on the field to play. I think that with him and Lattimore on the outside and Williams and CJGJ on the inside we will be a team that other teams won't like to pass against.
Will be surprised if we're able to afford to retain P.J. Williams...

AsylumGuido 01-19-2022 12:00 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 942242)
Will be surprised if we're able to afford to retain P.J. Williams...
We have $88 million in cap space that can be instantly created for 2022 simply by converting 2022 roster bonuses and base salaries into signing bonuses. Even more can be found with extensions. We can afford to pay him, but do we want to for a given sum? I agree with Major that he should be one of several priorities with all of that available cap.

But, we'll see when that time comes, I suppose. Contract time is one of my favorite times of the NFL season. Just like the pre-draft and draft are yours, JP. The NFL has something for everyone. No wonder it continues to make money hand over fist.

AsylumGuido 01-19-2022 04:09 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 

Crusader 01-20-2022 05:38 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 942214)
And not only knees. Look how quickly Kwon Alexander returned from that torn Achilles in Week 16 last December and play once again at a high level. That would have cost a player the following season under previous scenarios.
Yeah. Both knee injuries and achilles injuries are the type of stuff that ended people's careers 20-30 years ago. Modern surgery techniques are spectacular and the rehab processes are so very improved.

Rugby Saint II 01-20-2022 11:12 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942236)
I know we can't keep everyone, however ...

Don't want to lose PJ Williams.
We've trained him well. Also, he's in a great system with the Saints who have excellent coaches to coach him up to his full potential.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2022 12:05 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Any interest in Allen Robinson?

K Major 01-20-2022 12:09 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 942333)
We've trained him well. Also, he's in a great system with the Saints who have excellent coaches to coach him up to his full potential.
He’s had a roller coaster ride but one thing that stands out …

His ability to tackle well in space. At FSU, you saw traits of that but boy he’s really impressed me in the “head up/chin up, wrap up” tackling.

IMO this is lost in “todays” NFL.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2022 12:57 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 

K Major 01-20-2022 02:53 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Who wouldn’t want Allen on their team ?

He’s played with trash QBs most of his career and still solid production.

BMW M5 price tag though …

dizzle88 01-20-2022 04:06 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
I'm pretty sure we've lobbied for Allen multiple times and hes always chosen a different team.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2022 10:10 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 

jeanpierre 01-21-2022 04:32 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942358)
Who wouldn’t want Allen on their team ?

He’s played with trash QBs most of his career and still solid production.

BMW M5 price tag though …
Allen is more of a WRx, but I'd agree, he's a fantastically great underrated WR...

I'd be eyeing the more affordable WRz (i.e. Sanders) to complement Thomas...

If we could get a first and a third for Mike, then sign Allen for less - that'd be a sweet move...

jeanpierre 01-21-2022 08:59 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Some bargains at WRz in the FA Market in Emmanuel Sanders, D.J. Chark, Anthony Miller, Sammy Watkins, Christian Kirk, Will Fuller, and more of a slot, Adam Humphries...

Was reading on PFF that Gallup is expected to get Four years, $55 million ($13.75M per year, $32.5 million total guaranteed) - that's looks to be cost prohibitive...

PFF also projected that WR Allen Robinson looked to earn Three years, $48 million ($16M per year, $30 million total guaranteed) vs CantGuardMike at $22M/Year...

So if bridges can't be mended, we could always get a min first and a third for CantGuardMike, so long as we sign Allen Robinson - just spitballin' possibilities...

halloween 65 01-21-2022 10:11 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 942424)
Some bargains at WRz in the FA Market in Emmanuel Sanders, D.J. Chark, Anthony Miller, Sammy Watkins, Christian Kirk, Will Fuller, and more of a slot, Adam Humphries...

Was reading on PFF that Gallup is expected to get Four years, $55 million ($13.75M per year, $32.5 million total guaranteed) - that's looks to be cost prohibitive...

PFF also projected that WR Allen Robinson looked to earn Three years, $48 million ($16M per year, $30 million total guaranteed) vs CantGuardMike at $22M/Year...

So if bridges can't be mended, we could always get a min first and a third for CantGuardMike, so long as we sign Allen Robinson - just spitballin' possibilities...
I like Chark and Kirk

jeanpierre 01-22-2022 02:03 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 942431)
I like Chark and Kirk
Those probably would be the guys I'd target, not only for what they could bring, but their ceiling and their age..

AsylumGuido 01-25-2022 07:55 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 942478)
Those probably would be the guys I'd target, not only for what they could bring, but their ceiling and their age..

AsylumGuido 01-25-2022 09:59 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Are they taking into consideration his injury history? He's awesome when in there. But then again, I remember seeing something like only one starting left tackle played every game this year.

jeanpierre 01-25-2022 10:03 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 

K Major 01-25-2022 10:09 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
I don’t see a big market for Armstead in Free Agency.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2022 10:21 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942776)
I don’t see a big market for Armstead in Free Agency.
I hope you are right. We'll see. He had his lowest number of starts this season in five years, but left tackles seemed to have been decimated this whole past season for some reason.

Crusader 01-25-2022 11:00 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942776)
I don’t see a big market for Armstead in Free Agency.
I wish it were so but stellar LTs are at a premium and he is one of the best in the leauge when healthy. Would not surprise me one bit if some team believe they can do a better job in keeping him of fthe trainers table and thus are willing to spend big.

jeanpierre 01-25-2022 02:33 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 942868)
Nobody is going to sign with us now lol.
Don't be so sure, we really don't have much or need much to get over the hump...

We re-sign Marcus Williams, sign a WRz, we just gotta focus on that offensive line...

And Sean missed when he personally got involved with some of the free agent recruiting anyways...

Sean had few peers in game planning, X's and O's, but he left a lot to be desired with his inconsistent player evaluations...

lee909 01-25-2022 02:40 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 942776)
I don’t see a big market for Armstead in Free Agency.
Did you watch the Bengals game?
I'd be shocked if they weren't willing to offer him a big deal

Rugby Saint II 01-28-2022 01:34 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Unfortunately, someone will offer more money than the Saints are willing to when they will offer Armstead fair market value. He's great and I am proud of what he's done to protect Drew and those other four QB's. Besides, we've got Ramczyk to move to the left side which is is natural position. Right tackle can be addressed with one of out our draft picks.

The New Orleans Saints need a couple of young mauling guards who can operate in space also to replace Peat and give Ruiz someone to compete with at training camp. I'll give Ruiz one more year but if year three is anything like years one and two I'm done with him. I'll admit that some of our first round picks either take too long to develop or just don't develop at all but we have to keep drafting high in the trenches to protect AK47 and whoever is under center.

jeanpierre 01-31-2022 08:08 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Our priorities in Free Agency should be to:

  1. Secure FS Marcus Williams, keeping the defense intact...

  2. Sign a WRz such as D.J. Chark, Christian Kirk...

  3. Move Peat in a minimal cap hit contract...

AsylumGuido 02-01-2022 02:30 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 

saintsfan1976 02-01-2022 03:08 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943437)
Our priorities in Free Agency should be to:

  1. Secure FS Marcus Williams, keeping the defense intact...

  2. Sign a WRz such as D.J. Chark, Christian Kirk...

  3. Move Peat in a minimal cap hit contract...
Williams, yes.

WR I would welcome guys like Allen Robinson, JuJu Smith, and Godwin

Peat. I just don't see what other team would want him for that contract. Detroit, maybe...?

jeanpierre 02-01-2022 03:21 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 943528)
Williams, yes.

WR I would welcome guys like Allen Robinson, JuJu Smith, and Godwin


Peat. I just don't see what other team would want him for that contract. Detroit, maybe...?
We have Michael Thomas already at WRx, would you move him for one of those cats?

I suggested Chark or Kirk as they're more a WRz, downfield, tear the top off the defense to open things up...

Was surprised but some recent reading I've done says they're a number of teams that have a more favorable view of Peat than we may have here...

AsylumGuido 02-01-2022 03:25 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943534)
We have Michael Thomas already at WRx, would you move him for one of those cats?

I suggested Chark or Kirk as they're more a WRz, downfield, tear the top off the defense to open things up...

Was surprised but some recent reading I've done says they're a number of teams that have a more favorable view of Peat than we may have here...
I believe our coaches may have a more favorable view of Peat than we may have here ...

saintfan 02-01-2022 03:50 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943535)
I believe our coaches may have a more favorable view of Peat than we may have here ...
You don't believe anything - that's part of your problem. Whatever they say you spit up ad nauseum and waste our time with it here.

K Major 02-01-2022 06:53 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 943528)
Williams, yes.

WR I would welcome guys like Allen Robinson, JuJu Smith, and Godwin
The WR room instantly gets better with any of these guys.

If I had to choose just one, I'd take Allen. Solid numbers even when he's had less than average QB's throwing him the ball over the years.

jeanpierre 02-01-2022 07:32 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 943559)
The WR room instantly gets better with any of these guys.

If I had to choose just one, I'd take Allen. Solid numbers even when he's had less than average QB's throwing him the ball over the years.
We can't afford Allen Robinson and he's gonna be 29 years old this upcoming season...

Just sign a solid WRz, let Michael Thomas come back healthy and the WR discussion dies out...

K Major 02-01-2022 08:33 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943563)
We can't afford Allen Robinson and he's gonna be 29 years old this upcoming season...

Just sign a solid WRz, let Michael Thomas come back healthy and the WR discussion dies out...
I’ll be honest here.

Mike is a huge question mark. How is his rehab going? What’s his timeline on getting back to 100/football shape? No setbacks? Etc.

He hasn’t played organized football in forever.

Boston Saint 02-01-2022 08:34 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 943563)
We can't afford Allen Robinson and he's gonna be 29 years old this upcoming season...

Just sign a solid WRz, let Michael Thomas come back healthy and the WR discussion dies out...
Speaking of Thomas getting healthy, it’s concerning to me that there is more info on how Winston is coming along after surgery than there is info on CGM. Just my opinion. Hope I m wrong and he comes back strong.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:52 PM.
Page 31 of 58 « First 21222324252627282930 31 32333435363738394041 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com