Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

01-05-2017, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

I did read everything you wrote. You're narrow minded and still have tunnel vision.

How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge.

RockyMountainSaint · 01-05-2017, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Quickest thread to 8 pages ever? LMAO

Well in all fairness.......

Half of the posts are submitted by the same four members hijacking yet another thread, arguing about the same things they argue about in every other hijacked thread.

The irony is that this thread is supposed to be about SP actually changing something we all agreed he wouldn't.

And yet...........

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya,
The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say
The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, horrible you say
The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible.
Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible

Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense

No, you are wrong. The defenses of the Giants, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos and Panthers all among the best. That forces the offense to take more chances when your defense and special teams suck. Those are the very teams that would take advantage of the pressure placed upon the offense.

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, you are wrong. The defenses of the Giants, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos and Panthers all among the best. That forces the offense to take more chances when your defense and special teams suck. Those are the very teams that would take advantage of the pressure placed upon the offense.

The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya,
The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say
The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, and the offense turned the ball over 3 times, once for a TD, horrible you say
The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible.
Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible

Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games.

If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game.

Did I ever say the offense didn't deserve any blame? NO! Yet he claims the offense deserves ALL the blame in those losses. THAT is bullcrap and anyone with any degree of logic could understand that very simple fact.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya,
The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say
The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, and the offense turned the ball over 3 times, once for a TD, horrible you say
The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible.
Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible

Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense

Whatever. Believe what you want. Live in your little dreamland.

What is the objective to your silly crusade?

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Did I ever say the offense didn't deserve any blame? NO! Yet he claims the offense deserves ALL the blame in those losses. THAT is bullcrap and anyone with any degree of logic could understand that very simple fact.

Dizzle, what he's doing now is trying to change his argument. He is trying to change what he said a little bit ago. Earlier he said that the defense played horrible in those 5 games, now he is changing it to the offense doesn't deserve all the blame, lolol

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

Well in all fairness.......

Half of the posts are submitted by the same four members hijacking yet another thread, arguing about the same things they argue about in every other hijacked thread.

The irony is that this thread is supposed to be about SP actually changing something we all agreed he wouldn't.

And yet...........

I wasn't trying to bro. Really wasn't. I appreciate the likes though

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Dizzle, what he's doing now is trying to change his argument. He is trying to change what he said a little bit ago. Earlier he said that the defense played horrible in those 5 games, now he is changing it to the offense doesn't deserve all the blame, lolol

Wrong, friend. I said the defense and special teams played poorly all season and the offense was repeatedly forced to take chances. But, yes, there were tipped passes that resulted in picks. There were untimely fumbles. There were forces passes. I never said the defense played horribly in those losses. They played well considering.

01-05-2017, 08:37 PM	#111
Threaded by dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838 Rating: (1 votes - 5.00 average) Originally Posted by NonieT I did read everything you wrote. You're narrow minded and still have tunnel vision. How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games. If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game. spkb25 likes this.
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01-05-2017, 08:38 PM	#112
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by dizzle88 How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games. If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game. It is literally as if they have no ability to objectively judge.

01-05-2017, 08:42 PM	#113
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by hagan714 Quickest thread to 8 pages ever? LMAO Well in all fairness....... Half of the posts are submitted by the same four members hijacking yet another thread, arguing about the same things they argue about in every other hijacked thread. The irony is that this thread is supposed to be about SP actually changing something we all agreed he wouldn't. And yet........... Rugby Saint II, Utah_Saint and Rell&Gold like this.

01-05-2017, 08:43 PM	#114
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,398	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya, The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, horrible you say The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible. Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense No, you are wrong. The defenses of the Giants, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos and Panthers all among the best. That forces the offense to take more chances when your defense and special teams suck. Those are the very teams that would take advantage of the pressure placed upon the offense.

01-05-2017, 08:45 PM	#115
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, you are wrong. The defenses of the Giants, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos and Panthers all among the best. That forces the offense to take more chances when your defense and special teams suck. Those are the very teams that would take advantage of the pressure placed upon the offense. The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya, The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, and the offense turned the ball over 3 times, once for a TD, horrible you say The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible. Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense
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01-05-2017, 08:46 PM	#116
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,398	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by dizzle88 How can that be considered narrow minded? He listed games which I agree the offense lost for us, but also agreed the defense wasn't good in the other games. If anyone is narrow minded, it's the ones that absolutely refuse to blame the offense, even when they turn the ball over 4 times in a game. Did I ever say the offense didn't deserve any blame? NO! Yet he claims the offense deserves ALL the blame in those losses. THAT is bullcrap and anyone with any degree of logic could understand that very simple fact.

01-05-2017, 08:47 PM	#117
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,398	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 The defense let up 9 points against the Giants. Horrible. I hear ya, The Defense let up 16 points against the Bucs, Horrible you say The Defense let up 20 points against the Chiefs, and the offense turned the ball over 3 times, once for a TD, horrible you say The defense let up 23 points had 6 sacks and two turnovers against the Broncos and held them to FG's after two turnovers, one at our 34 and one at our 20. horrible. Against the Panthers they let up 23 points even though the offense had two turnovers inside our 35 yard line. The panthers longest drive was 51 yards, horrible Like has been proven all 5 of those losses were solely on the offense Whatever. Believe what you want. Live in your little dreamland. What is the objective to your silly crusade?

01-05-2017, 08:47 PM	#118
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Did I ever say the offense didn't deserve any blame? NO! Yet he claims the offense deserves ALL the blame in those losses. THAT is bullcrap and anyone with any degree of logic could understand that very simple fact. Dizzle, what he's doing now is trying to change his argument. He is trying to change what he said a little bit ago. Earlier he said that the defense played horrible in those 5 games, now he is changing it to the offense doesn't deserve all the blame, lolol dizzle88 likes this.

01-05-2017, 08:51 PM	#119
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint Well in all fairness....... Half of the posts are submitted by the same four members hijacking yet another thread, arguing about the same things they argue about in every other hijacked thread. The irony is that this thread is supposed to be about SP actually changing something we all agreed he wouldn't. And yet........... I wasn't trying to bro. Really wasn't. I appreciate the likes though RockyMountainSaint likes this.

01-05-2017, 08:52 PM	#120
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,398	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 Dizzle, what he's doing now is trying to change his argument. He is trying to change what he said a little bit ago. Earlier he said that the defense played horrible in those 5 games, now he is changing it to the offense doesn't deserve all the blame, lolol Wrong, friend. I said the defense and special teams played poorly all season and the offense was repeatedly forced to take chances. But, yes, there were tipped passes that resulted in picks. There were untimely fumbles. There were forces passes. I never said the defense played horribly in those losses. They played well considering.

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