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jeanpierre 04-30-2021 07:49 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919579)
Your world is that fragile?

If it makes yours better, then whatever you think.

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 919582)
If it makes yours better, then whatever you think.

I don't allow anyone to tell me how to think nor what I will think...

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 07:51 PM

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Good Gosh!


jeanpierre 04-30-2021 07:52 PM

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Pittsburgh is having a Pittsburgh draft - R1, RB; R2, TE...

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919581)
Dana Holgorsen said Sean Payton did not get in touch with him before the draft. After the Saints made the pick Holgorsen asked Payton why he hadn't heard from him and Payton said, "I didn't want the cat out of the bag on this one."

Smart move. You don't want a special target like this to get out. Nobody but the GM, HC, and owner should know what move is being made.

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 07:54 PM

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This is another DE I really liked...Chris Ballard and Frank Reich are doing some good things in IND...


lee909 04-30-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 919580)
Deion Jones is 222. Lbs are hybrid safeties nowadays

Not saying its not worth a pick, i can see why others went ahead of him.
He is going to need to add weight though, be interesting how he holds up in the run game especially in that division.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919583)
I don't allow anyone to tell me how to think nor what I will think...

Nor should anyone expect anything other from you.

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 07:59 PM

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Seattle snags Dwayne Eskridge - Draft rumor mill was Sean was very high on the wide receiver...

Curious if Payton owns that after the draft or if it was bullshinski...

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:01 PM

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This is good stuff...


Euphoria 04-30-2021 08:02 PM

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The pick will be Offense...

TE?

lee909 04-30-2021 08:04 PM

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See people saying Molden a option but can he start outside at 5'9 and 4.5 speed

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 919597)
The pick will be Offense...

TE?

Maybe. Team usually goes need after first pick, so CB2, WLB or DT3...

Lord_Saint83 04-30-2021 08:04 PM

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Terrance Marshall

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:05 PM

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Wow, Rams reached there, good for us!

lee909 04-30-2021 08:05 PM

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Melifonwu or Adebo would be my guess

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:05 PM

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Hopefully best player available based upon the evaluation of those in the know. Can't wait to see.

K Major 04-30-2021 08:06 PM

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Rams may have just drafted the smallest WR ever.

Tutu is tiny.

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 919601)
Terrance Marshall

Not a fan. He's got a suspect, bad back that was hidden till late in the draft process; and he didn't really start for his team (that's how deep State has been)...

This draft is deep at WR anyways - there's still some real gems out there...

Lord_Saint83 04-30-2021 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919607)
Not a fan. He's got a suspect, bad back that was hidden till late in the draft process; and he didn't really start for his team (that's how deep State has been)...

This draft is deep at WR anyways - there's still some real gems out there...


I can see that

lee909 04-30-2021 08:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919606)
Rams may have just drafted the smallest WR ever.

Tutu is tiny.

I hope he gets smashed off the ball in the dying seconds of a game they have to win

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:08 PM

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KC took Nick Bolton, maybe a run on LBers?

OldMaid 04-30-2021 08:09 PM

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Panthers. Saints.
Up next next okok.

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 919612)
Panthers. Saints.
Up next next okok.

Can't wait to celebrate our next new Saint!

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:11 PM

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Wide Receivers still on board I really like - Josh Palmer, Josh Imatorbhebhe, Simi Fehoko, Jaelon Darden, Ihmir Smith-Marsette

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:12 PM

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Here we go...


jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:14 PM

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Kinda relieve the Panthers took LSU Terrace Marshall...


And the Saints pick is in...

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:16 PM

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jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:17 PM

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And Sean Payton's love affair with Ohio State continues...

Bet many of you didn't know that's Sean's dream job...

Euphoria 04-30-2021 08:18 PM

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There is our Ohio State player.

papz 04-30-2021 08:18 PM

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HAHA I knew we were going to end up with one of their LB'ers.

I dig it.

Lord_Saint83 04-30-2021 08:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919625)
And Sean Payton's love affair with Ohio State continues...

Bet many of you didn't know that's Sean's dream job...


It’s a lil sickening

AsylumGuido 04-30-2021 08:18 PM

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Very cool! Got us a LB. Never heard of him but I'm sure he'll be great!

OldMaid 04-30-2021 08:18 PM

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A LB?
Is that good, needed?
I am sure Pete Werner is good, will be a good rookie.

Do the Saints need a LB?:confused:

rezburna 04-30-2021 08:19 PM

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Never heard of the kid, but aight.

Rsanders24 04-30-2021 08:19 PM

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A two down LB...great.

dizzle88 04-30-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 919632)
Never heard of the kid, but aight.

Typical Saints draft lol

lee909 04-30-2021 08:20 PM

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Player Bio
Werner flipped his recruiting commitment from Notre Dame to Ohio State after attending the 2016 Ohio State-Michigan game, though he has said that wasn't the only factor in the decision. The former first-team Class 6A All-State selection from Cathedral High School started 13 games for the Buckeyes as a sophomore (58 tackles, 7.5 for loss, with three sacks, seven pass breakups, two forced fumbles in 14 appearances), taking a big step forward from a freshman campaign where he was a reserve in 11 contests (nine tackles). He garnered honorable mention All-Big Ten honors as a junior in 2019, starting all 14 games and posting 64 stops, 5.5 for loss, three pass breakups and two fumble recoveries. Werner led the Buckeyes with 54 tackles (2.5 for loss with one sack, also forcing two fumbles) in 2020, earning first-team All-Big Ten honors in eight starts for the national runners-up. Werner's father, Greg, was a tight end at DePauw University and then in the NFL for two years. -- by Chad Reuter


Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
NFL Comparison
Jordan Evans
Overview
Werner has a versatile linebacker background but is best-suited as a 4-3 Sam with walk-out coverage abilities against certain slot tight ends. He doesn't have playmaking athleticism that stands out as a pro prospect. While his listed size certainly looks NFL-ready, his long, thin lower half is not conducive to leveraging run lanes and overcoming the big bodies that will be coming his way as a pro. He's a physical striker with adequate trigger twitch. Werner has the talent and demeanor to compete for a roster spot as a backup strong-side linebacker and full-time special teamer.

Strengths
Played all three linebacker positions.
Early arm extension to punch and stay clean inside.
Separates and searches for the runner.
Plays quickly off the edge block to make sudden tackles.
Fluid change of direction in space.
Agility and hips for smooth lateral transitions.
Physical striker when he gets them in his sights.
Can match up in coverage with positive results.
Attacks blitz blockers with force and some success.
Versatility to be moved around the field.

Weaknesses
Long and thin through hips and legs.
Below-average base to withstand angle blocks.
Will have trouble constricting run lanes with force.
Needs to be quicker shadowing lateral run cuts.
Glued to bigger blockers once they find his frame.
Needs to find consistent angles and position as tackler.
Below-average strength to finish.
Average field flow as spot dropper.

jeanpierre 04-30-2021 08:20 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 919631)
A LB?
Is that good, needed?
I am dure Pete Werner is good, wiil . A rookie.

Do the Saints need a LB?

Yes we need a linebacker, and no he's not that good...

Jabril Cox is better...


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