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ChrisXVI

04-29-2021 10:39 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919321)

Get the new pass-happy NFL, but he's too light to play LBer and Jenkins is a liability...

Trevon Moehrig solves that - he's very versatile, and he's a ball hawk...

Owusu-Koramoah is the exact same size as Kwon Alexander with better man coverage skills. He’s an upgrade to how amazing we thought our LB corp was with Alexander because he can actually cover slot WR’s in dime.

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 10:41 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919324)

It'll be moot point when Sean takes a WR...

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 10:41 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Oh, of course, a second/third round DE...

Guess he'll be Cam's replacement, let the transition begin...

HOU Payton Turner...

Solid player, but he'd been there in Round 3...

Euphoria

04-29-2021 10:43 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

I knew it would be a dark horse no one was thinking of... LOL. See I am never shocked. lol.

ChrisXVI

04-29-2021 10:43 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

I’m done man. I hate this team at times. What the f***.

RefsRobbedUs

04-29-2021 10:45 PM

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His tape looks good straight effort guy.

Preferred the lb from ND though. Good luck with Jenkins guarding Pitts

The Dude

04-29-2021 10:47 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Wtf. And we extended Davenport. Wonder if they are thinking of moving Cam for a good veteran Cb.

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 10:47 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919335)

I’m done man. I hate this team at times. What the f***.

Look, in the first round, probably not. But we took a DE in the second round, Darren Howard, who ended up playing like a first rounder...

He's a good kid, well-spoken, and he's an athlete with size, length, and a 7' wingspan...

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 10:49 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 919339)

Wtf. And we extended Davenport. Wonder if they are thinking of moving Cam for a good veteran Cb.

It'd be cap prohibitive without some really creative contract now that Cam's contract was already converted...

Gives Payton a year to learn under Cam and from what I saw of Cam this past year, he's done...

It's the right time, I'd done this move in the second round though...

Looks like Ryan Nielsen really has Sean's ear now...

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 10:50 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 919337)

His tape looks good straight effort guy.

Preferred the lb from ND though. Good luck with Jenkins guarding Pitts

Actually like this pick over Owasu, respects to Brother Chris...

Would have preferred Trevon Moehrig who I was surprised was still there...

Euphoria

04-29-2021 10:51 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

I wouldn't be surprise to see him playing LB

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 11:00 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Actually, I'm liking the pick...

RefsRobbedUs

04-29-2021 11:05 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Effort guy but a reach

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 11:06 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 919368)

Effort guy but a reach

Yeah, but now the What to do about Cam's getting older, breaking down, getting slow? is off the table now...

There's still several draft picks to go...

RefsRobbedUs

04-29-2021 11:10 PM

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Looks like he was rising

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...er-report/amp/

RefsRobbedUs

04-29-2021 11:11 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919371)

Yeah, but now the What to do about Cam's getting older, breaking down, getting slow? is off the table now...

There's still several draft picks to go...

This is going to be one of those picks that will grown on me

K Major

04-29-2021 11:13 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 919368)

Effort guy but a reach

I remember saying that about Cam Jordan when we selected him & he turned out ok.

Lets see what he does under Ryan N.

ChrisXVI

04-29-2021 11:14 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

We’re screwed. I guess Richard Sherman is our CB2 plan.

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 11:22 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919381)

We’re screwed. I guess Richard Sherman is our CB2 plan.

That's what two of the media guys I know have been trying to tell me - I was in denial...

Sean just seems to think players never get old - he still see's the CB2 that shut his arse down in the playoffs, twice...

K Major

04-29-2021 11:23 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919381)

We’re screwed. I guess Richard Sherman is our CB2 plan.

We have 7 more picks XVI. Many of your ballers are found on Day 2-4. See CGM, Ceedy, Armstead & AK41.

Saints are fine.

ChrisXVI

04-29-2021 11:28 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919388)

We have 7 more picks XVI. Many of your ballers are found on Day 2-4. See CGM, Ceedy, Armstead & AK41.

Saints are fine.

Oh I know, that’s absolutely true. That first round pick though... man that was garbage. I’ve read everything I need to read and watched everything I need to watch. We couldn’t secure a trade up so we just threw something against the wall hoping it would stick. Totally disappointed.

Rsanders24

04-29-2021 11:33 PM

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I don’t have an issue with the player bu we have so many more holes on this team and no money to fill them. I would have rather them trade back for more capital than to reach for a position that has depth.

LB and CB are way bigger needs than DE. We signed two DEs in the off season already that can offer rotational support.

jeanpierre

04-29-2021 11:39 PM

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Liked him before this interview, really liking him now...

ChrisXVI

04-30-2021 07:37 AM

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I’m just happy we didn’t make a ridiculous trade up. Now we need either Tyson Campbell or Ifeatu Melifonwu in the 2nd round.

papz	04-30-2021 07:58 AM

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I wouldn't mind a trade up for Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. It would hardly surprise me if we ended up with an Ohio State linebacker in the third round.

I'm so glad we got those compensation picks.

ChrisXVI

04-30-2021 08:01 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 919421)

I wouldn't mind a trade up for Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. It would hardly surprise me if we ended up with an Ohio State linebacker in the third round.

I'm so glad we got those compensation picks.

Ohio St LB Pete Werner in the 3rd would be fantastic.

AsylumGuido

04-30-2021 08:03 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919416)

I’m just happy we didn’t make a ridiculous trade up. Now we need either Tyson Campbell or Ifeatu Melifonwu in the 2nd round.

It looks like it would have taken a trade up to get a CB and that takes a partner. We took what they determined was best player available. Sounds good to me.

ChrisXVI

04-30-2021 10:44 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

I told y’all that was a terrible pick and Mayock is a garbage GM.

papz	04-30-2021 10:56 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Mike Mayock went from being a television draft analyst to running a football team. Who would have thought something could go wrong?

K Major

04-30-2021 11:05 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

If I was a betting man, I believe the Saints will move up tonight in the second rd. I see a lot of quality players still out there.

CB &/or linebacker … maybe even a WR.

AsylumGuido

04-30-2021 11:34 AM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919468)

If I was a betting man, I believe the Saints will move up tonight in the second rd. I see a lot of quality players still out there.

CB &/or linebacker … maybe even a WR.

I agree. They have the picks available to make a move ... or two.

ChrisXVI

04-30-2021 01:02 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

C’mon Jabril Cox!

The Dude

04-30-2021 01:13 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Elijah Moore? Koromoah? Asante Samual Jr?

K Major

04-30-2021 01:16 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

For what it's worth, I see it's been reported that the Saints were attempting to trade up for Jaycee Horn. Shades of Patrick Mahommes …

Oh well, maybe we target a corner on tonight.

jeanpierre

04-30-2021 01:53 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 919464)

https://twitter.com/pfn365/status/1388153955646156800

I told y’all that was a terrible pick and Mayock is a garbage GM.

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 919466)

Mike Mayock went from being a television draft analyst to running a football team. Who would have thought something could go wrong?

We've the same problem here - Sean tells Mickey what to do; there's no check and balances to make for a deliberative process...

Until Sean recognizes and embraces that he can't have unlimited power within the franchise, he'll continue to handicap his success on the field...

Whether government, business, football team, there must be a healthy set of checks and balances...

jeanpierre

04-30-2021 01:54 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 919498)

For what it's worth, I see it's been reported that the Saints were attempting to trade up for Jaycee Horn. Shades of Patrick Mahommes …

Oh well, maybe we target a corner on tonight.

We got caught target fixating last night on a couple of the CBs, and we should've been working the phones along with others to move up to at least get Newsome...

Still believe Trevon Moehrig would've been the right pick; as I said before, Sean fails to see players aging, decline of skills; Malcolm Jenkins was/is a defensive liability...

WW_Who_Dat

04-30-2021 02:06 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

There are multiple reports they were trying to move up, creditable sources, all saying pretty much no one was interested in the 28th position. And had they package a first round next year I can just the response to that move. To bad we have a bad scouting and drafting group to go along with marginal coach who keeps putting us in the bottom 5% of the draft rotation.

lee909

04-30-2021 02:08 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919504)

I would be on the phone today seeing of i could move Marcus Williams for a early 2nd round pick to move him. Can't see how they can afford Willaims long term anyway.

SaintFanInATLHELL

04-30-2021 02:39 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 919507)

I C wut U did there!

SFIAH

jeanpierre

04-30-2021 05:00 PM

Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919321)

Get the new pass-happy NFL, but he's too light to play LBer and Jenkins is a liability...

Trevon Moehrig solves that - he's very versatile, and he's a ball hawk...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 919504)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 919508)

I would be on the phone today seeing of i could move Marcus Williams for a early 2nd round pick to move him. Can't see how they can afford Willaims long term anyway.

If they liked Moehrig, or another safety, they'd have taken him last night when they got caught without a chair when the music stopped...

Marcus is a known, established quantity, with high grades to show for his play that doesn't bring a lot of BS to the locker room; he's all business, he's a good NFL pro...

I'm strong advocate for what you're saying, but in Mr. Marcus' case, he's the player I draft, re-sign, even extend for a ten year run with us...

What we can't afford is all the big contracts we have along the offensive line (e.g. Armstead, Peat) and can't manhandle teams in the playoffs...

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