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gosaints1 04-24-2021 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 918764)
Whatever we got would need spent on a new LT as I doubt you get more than a late 1 early 2. The big benefit would be in the cap but it's a bit late for that now
Agreed on what we could get for him, but I doubt anyone would pony up a 1st for him as things stand right now. Moving him (a trade, pre or post 6/1) would free up a bit of cap space, $2.3M iirc, but it would be offset by dead money of just over $2M. Pick your poison, lol.

From my perspective, he’s already a sunk cost, let’s keep him..., unless a holy smokes offer happens. Him being on the roster is a much greater benefit than any compensation we would get, imho.

AsylumGuido 04-24-2021 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 918785)
Agreed on what we could get for him, but I doubt anyone would pony up a 1st for him as things stand right now. Moving him (a trade, pre or post 6/1) would free up a bit of cap space, $2.3M iirc, but it would be offset by dead money of just over $2M. Pick your poison, lol.

From my perspective, he’s already a sunk cost, let’s keep him..., unless a holy smokes offer happens. Him being on the roster is a much greater benefit than any compensation we would get, imho.
:confused:

To whom are you referring? Dead money on Armstead via trade would be $20.18 million pre-6/1 and $7.179 million 2021/$13+ million 2022.

:confused:

Armstead - spotrac.com

SmashMouth 04-25-2021 05:56 AM
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ChrisXVI 04-25-2021 07:54 AM
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I’m not looking forward to us getting smoked by Kyle Pitts in a Falcons uniform for years to come.

Boston Saint 04-25-2021 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918832)
I’m not looking forward to us getting smoked by Kyle Pitts in a Falcons uniform for years to come.
Maybe this is where Ceedy Duce plans on making his money.

ChrisXVI 04-25-2021 08:24 AM
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I’m just praying the Failclowns trade back and somebody else gets Kyle Pitts. We saw what Darren Waller did to us last year.

ChrisXVI 04-25-2021 10:41 AM
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When taking into account Kris Richard’s prototype at CB, Ifeatu Melifonwu in the 2nd round might be the most perfect match of scheme fit, need and value.

jeanpierre 04-25-2021 01:33 PM
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jeanpierre 04-25-2021 01:37 PM
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jeanpierre 04-25-2021 01:37 PM
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ChrisXVI 04-26-2021 07:46 AM
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If this is something in the works then it wouldn’t be surprising at all to see the Falcons go Ja’Marr Chase @ 4.

ChrisXVI 04-26-2021 07:12 PM
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I didn’t hear about this earlier:

AsylumGuido 04-26-2021 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918906)
I didn’t hear about this earlier:

https://twitter.com/sheadixon/status...08200574132232
Pro day timing must be taken with a grain of salt.

K Major 04-26-2021 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918906)
I didn’t hear about this earlier:

https://twitter.com/sheadixon/status...08200574132232
Thanks XVI.

Cox is mentioned & listed as a LB but can cover like a nickel. In a "pass happy" league, we could certainly use a player with his skill set.

One of the negatives on Cox is that he doesn't always "wrap up". Gotta clean that up but he's a super talented Pro prospect.

The draft is almost here :bng:

SmashMouth 04-27-2021 12:48 AM
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jeanpierre 04-27-2021 10:01 AM
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ChrisXVI 04-27-2021 10:53 AM
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AsylumGuido 04-27-2021 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918923)
Nobody that knows anything is going to be talking. I've heard more than one former GM and former head coach say this past week that only three people in any organization know what the ultimate plan is and those people are the GM, HC and the owner. That may differ to a minor degree, but anyone that claims to be "hearing" things can't be hearing it from anyone that knows what they are talking about. Unless, of course those three WANT that out there as a smoke screen.

Boston Saint 04-27-2021 12:00 PM
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Still hope they can draft a good D Player in first round.

Rugby Saint II 04-27-2021 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 918912)
Thanks XVI.

Cox is mentioned & listed as a LB but can cover like a nickel. In a "pass happy" league, we could certainly use a player with his skill set.

One of the negatives on Cox is that he doesn't always "wrap up". Gotta clean that up but he's a super talented Pro prospect.

The draft is almost here :bng:
Give me a couple of days and I'll fix his tackling issues! No problem. :biggun:

K Major 04-27-2021 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 918929)
Give me a couple of days and I'll fix his tackling issues! No problem. :biggun:
Was briefly watching some Rugby on BEIN network this past weekend and thought about you RSII.

Those guys are tough as hell.

jeanpierre 04-27-2021 05:27 PM
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ChrisXVI 04-27-2021 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 918933)
I don’t think we’re picking anyone at #28... Well we’re movin’ on up (Movin’ on up!)

jnormand 04-27-2021 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918935)
I don’t think we’re picking anyone at #28... Well we’re movin’ on up (Movin’ on up!)
I agree. SP likes to move. And I think they're gonna try to move up too. We know one thing....he isn't going to trade down for more picks. Never does. Probably never will. Lol.

jeanpierre 04-28-2021 10:33 AM
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K Major 04-28-2021 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 918950)
Damn, another (Caleb Farley) Va Tech player coming off surgery ? Eventual replacement for T Armstead ?? …

Just asking for a friend :p.

jeanpierre 04-28-2021 11:24 AM
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jeanpierre 04-28-2021 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 918951)
Damn, another (Caleb Farley) Va Tech player coming off surgery ? Eventual replacement for T Armstead ?? …

Just asking for a friend :p.
Ryan Ramczyk is Armstead's replacement, we just have to find a younger, healthier, rookie-contracted Right Tackle...

jeanpierre 04-28-2021 02:00 PM
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jeanpierre 04-28-2021 02:04 PM
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ChrisXVI 04-28-2021 05:49 PM
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K Major 04-28-2021 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918961)
Trading up for Jaycee Horn would make a lot of sense … but trading up for Caleb? In the 1st round? He's already had 2 back surgeries and a torn ACL.

Hard pass for me.

rezburna 04-28-2021 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 918968)
Trading up for Jaycee Horn would make a lot of sense … but trading up for Caleb? In the 1st round? He's already had 2 back surgeries and a torn ACL.

Hard pass for me.
Facts.

jeanpierre 04-28-2021 11:24 PM
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Tweet Shared

Draft Time, Sean Payton is like some greenhorn sailor headed to the Philippines for first time R&R and hot for a native girl five vets raved but have gotten an STD...

But thinks it'll be different for him because he'll be smarter - and that meager Navy payday is just burning like a ring of fire in his wallet...

And other GMs can see it, see him coming...

saintsfan1976 04-29-2021 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 918970)
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1387452447694675971

Draft Time, Sean Payton is like some greenhorn sailor headed to the Philippines for first time R&R and hot for a native girl five vets raved but have gotten an STD...

But thinks it'll be different for him because he'll be smarter - and that meager Navy payday is just burning like a ring of fire in his wallet...

And other GMs can see it, see him coming...

JP I lol'd on this on but it's inaccurate IMO.

saintsfan1976 04-29-2021 06:47 AM
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I'm so pumped for today.

Brees's loss will be felt but it's kinda nice to go into a new season without the same expectation.

I believe this team is still a contender and whether the organization drafts 10 players or 1, I'm sure it's part of the plan to keep us in contention.

Here's to a great weekend in the next chapter Who Dats!

AsylumGuido 04-29-2021 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 918974)
I'm so pumped for today.

Brees's loss will be felt but it's kinda nice to go into a new season without the same expectation.

I believe this team is still a contender and whether the organization drafts 10 players or 1, I'm sure it's part of the plan to keep us in contention.

Here's to a great weekend in the next chapter Who Dats!
I've been looking forward to the draft just to see who we end up getting. At that point I'll learn more about the players and then wait to see how they turn out in a few years. Maybe a couple will have some immediate impact. We'll see. If they turn the eight picks into five and get the five players they want I'll be happy. They can target others via the UDFA market. It seems they are just as successful as the late rounders anyway.

saintsfan1976 04-29-2021 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 918976)
I've been looking forward to the draft just to see who we end up getting. At that point I'll learn more about the players and then wait to see how they turn out in a few years. Maybe a couple will have some immediate impact. We'll see. If they turn the eight picks into five and get the five players they want I'll be happy. They can target others via the UDFA market. It seems they are just as successful as the late rounders anyway.
Only a strong organization and coaching staff can turn as many afterthoughts into solid starters. That's one reason they deserve more credit than they receive.

ChrisXVI 04-29-2021 07:42 AM
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It’s going to be an exciting night!

AsylumGuido 04-29-2021 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 918978)
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1387739563003727881

It’s going to be an exciting night!
We can always trade our #32 next year to help move up.


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