I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

Rugby Saint II · 02-08-2023, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

voodooido · 02-08-2023, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

SmashMouth · 02-08-2023, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one.

Originally Posted by voodooido

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The problem with that is that it may take a decade of drafting QB's until we can find one that can fit the bill of "QB of the future". By then our capital would have been wasted and we could have spent the entire decade floundering while hoping that the next one might work out.

Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it?

rezburna · 02-08-2023, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it?

This. Go QB crazy. I’d bring three new QB’s into the organization next year.

Carr
Hooker
Bennett

jnormand · 02-08-2023, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr.

I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot.

Yikes!

voodooido · 02-08-2023, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot.

Yikes!

Restructuring would be promised in the trade. He knows he is not worth what he’s being paid. Backload the new contract until this cap mess clears up

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Restructuring would be promised in the trade. He knows he is not worth what he’s being paid. Backload the new contract until this cap mess clears up

Restructuring his base salary to a signing bonus is an advantage to the player. Instead of getting 17 weekly game checks he gets the bulk of it up front. The team just accounts for it in subsequent years.

AsylumGuido · 02-08-2023, 03:54 PM

Carr is still meeting with the Saints.

02-08-2023, 02:10 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Then let's roll with Winston, leave Carr alone, and draft a couple of QBs and see what shakes out I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

02-08-2023, 02:16 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-08-2023, 02:36 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,795 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think Dennis Allen has any faith in Winston and I expect him to be backing up another quarterback next year. Also, Dennis Allen is already under the microscope and on the hot seat and probably feels the need for a veteran to help solidify the offense so he doesn't get fired. Good luck with that. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Saints clearly are not willing to toss everything out and "rebuild" as some fans suggest. Carr is a known commodity while any QB coming through the draft is to varying degrees unknowns as it applies to the NFL. I'm really warming to the idea of bringing Carr in and using our draft and remaining cap assets in plugging a few of the holes around him and starting competing immediately. We would be favorites to win the division from day one. Originally Posted by voodooido I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The problem with that is that it may take a decade of drafting QB's until we can find one that can fit the bill of "QB of the future". By then our capital would have been wasted and we could have spent the entire decade floundering while hoping that the next one might work out. Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it? Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.

02-08-2023, 05:23 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SmashMouth Exactly... that's why you make the move and restructure the contract a la Loomis. And also draft QBs, even in the second round. In fact I'd draft two QBs, Hooker and some other one, maybe the Fresno St QB, the senior bowl MVP. Stetson could an UDFA too. Come to think of it, isn't it how the Feagles did it? This. Go QB crazy. I’d bring three new QB’s into the organization next year. Carr Hooker Bennett SmashMouth likes this.

02-08-2023, 02:52 PM	#5
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by voodooido I don’t think anyone has a drop of faith in JW. It’s time for him to become a cheap backup or bag groceries. I’m all for going all in to get carr. I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot. Yikes! SmashMouth likes this.

02-08-2023, 03:16 PM	#6
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by jnormand I’m good for going for Carr. But his salary is HUGE for a QB that has probably reached his ceiling. I think he’s better then what we have and can be productive but dang! That’s a lot of dough and it’ll probably take a 2nd or 3 rounder to boot. Yikes! Restructuring would be promised in the trade. He knows he is not worth what he’s being paid. Backload the new contract until this cap mess clears up
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02-08-2023, 03:42 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by voodooido Restructuring would be promised in the trade. He knows he is not worth what he’s being paid. Backload the new contract until this cap mess clears up Restructuring his base salary to a signing bonus is an advantage to the player. Instead of getting 17 weekly game checks he gets the bulk of it up front. The team just accounts for it in subsequent years.

02-08-2023, 03:54 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Carr is still meeting with the Saints. Twitter