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If Fleener continues this trend of "pedestrian" results, I don't know that we have one tight end remaining on the roster next season...

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DE and/or DT should be FA signings in 2017. DE should be a big ticket signing.

Who I am watching this year are:
Adoree' Jackson #2 CB/WR USC 5-11 186 4.43
Watch out for this kid. He looks to be out to prove he is one of the best

Dion Dawkins OT/OG Temple 6-5 315 5.27
All around OL that plays at the second level extremely well

Jelani Hamilton DE/DT Miami 6-5 302 4.74
This kid could turn out to be one of the freaks in the draft.

Nico Siragusa OG San Diego State, 6-4 330 5.24
Looks to be the next small school OL darling

Mitch Leidner, QB Minnesota homer pick :)

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Fleener will make us miss an all around TE by season end. Jake Butt anyone?

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Not seen much of college ball of yet

I know its far too early for mocks but i still take a look( I'd love Fournette but screw taking a RB in the first with the current roster. Fr me you spend on a RB or another luxery position from a position of strength)

Looking at Walters site
Thoughts on the players not the picks or round


Walter
New Orleans Saints: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
Mark Ingram has enjoyed some good moments, but it's safe to say that overall, he has been a disappointment as a first-round pick. Ingram is a fine starter, but you can't compare him to Leonard Fournette. The LSU prospect would've been considered the top running back prospect since Adrian Peterson if it weren't for Todd Gurley, and I'd have to think Sean Payton would love having him in his offense to take pressure off Drew Brees.
Pick change; previously Myles Garrett, DE



New Orleans Saints: Dan Feeney, G, Indiana
Dan Feeney won't be able to teach his teammates much until he's a veteran, but he could provide an upgrade on the interior of the offensive line, which is a weak point of the Saints' scoring unit right now.



Charlie
New Orleans Saints: Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri
The Saints need to improve their edge rush, and Barnett could be a nice fit across from Cam Jordan.

Harris had a very underwhelming performance against West Virginia to open 2016. He had two tackles along with a couple of nice pass rushes, but for the most part, he was very quiet.

Harris is a speedy edge rusher who broke out in 2015 with 56 tackles, 18.5 tackles for a loss, seven sacks and two forced fumbles. He was a backup as a redshirt freshman in 2014 and notched two sacks. The 6-foot-3, 255-pound Harris is a fast edge rusher who puts a lot of heat on the quarterback. He is very similar to Vic Beasley and Shane Ray.
Pick change; previously Derek Barnett, DE




New Orleans Saints: Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
The Saints grab some quarterback competition for Garrett Grayson to be the heir apparent to Drew Brees.

Against Florida State to open 2016, Kelly completed 21-of-39 passes for 312 yards with four touchdowns and three interceptions, although one of those picks wasn't his fault. He also did well picking up yards on the ground.

Kelly (6-2, 215) had a lot of problems at Clemson before getting booted out of the program. After winning a community college National Championship, Kelly then landed at Ole Miss and became the Rebels staring quarterback in 2015. He completed 65 percent of his passes for 4,042 yards with 31 touchdowns and 13 interceptions last season.

Kelly has a powerful arm, some mobility, and pushes the ball vertically. However, he needs to get more consistent with his pocket passing, field vision, and taking easy completions underneath. Kelly also needs to check his ego and clean up his off-the-field issues.







Kelly sounds a talent but not somebody hands you would put you franchise future in.

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SB Nation

8. New Orleans Saints - Jonathan Allen DE, Alabama

2016 draft picks: Sheldon Rankins, Michael Thomas, Vonn Bell

2017 free agents: John Jenkins, Nick Fairley

Projected 2016 record: 5-11

Upgrading the Saints pass-rush should be their biggest need in 2017, same as it was in 2016 where they eschewed help on the outside for Sheldon Rankins.

Had he decided to enter the 2016 draft class it's likely that Jonathan Allen would have been the first Crimson Tide player to come off of the board. While his defensive line mates A'Shawn Robinson and Jarran Reed grabbed a majority of the headlines last season, it was Allen who paced the trio with 12 sacks, 14.5 tackles for loss, 2 forced fumbles, and 4 batted passes. At 6-foot-3 and 283 pounds, Allen is versatile enough to play in any defensive scheme



39. New Orleans Saints - Davon Godchaux DT, LSU

John Jenkins and Nick Fairley are both free agents.

The 6-foot-4 and 295 pounds Davon Godchaux is tailor-made to for the modern NFL with his combination of power and deceptive speed. His 6 sacks and 9 tackles for loss this past season don't nearly tell the whole story when it came to just how distributive he was for that LSU defense.

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Saints can't afford to take a chance with upgrading the pass rush - it'll be a proven pass rusher via free agency or a first round pick...

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proven veteran FA pass rusher

Then again
OG Ron Leary Dallas

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proven veteran FA pass rusher

Then again
OG Ron Leary Dallas

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Hagan,
Be careful of Leary. He is already on the team. We simply spell his name LELITO ;). Expect Turner to get some playing time this season in Black and Gold.

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Yeah, if anything, I'd expect us to take another run at Right Tackle in the draft...

Armstead is already an elite Left Tackle, when healthy...

Peat has found a home and looks good at Left Guard...

Unger is returning to All-Pro form at Center...

Jahri Evans is tutoring Kelemete, Lelito and Turner at Right Guard...

And crafty ole Strief is still waiting for some to take away Right Tackle...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Week 2 - New Orleans Saints @ New York Giants


OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead (LIP)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (2) 73- Jahri Evans, 68 - Tim Lelito

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill (DNP), 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins

LEO (3) 99 - Paul Kruger, 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 54 - Nate Stupar

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe (DNP), 52 - Craig Robertson

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux (DNP), 46 - Ken Crawley, 28 - B.W. Webb

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher


PRACTICE SQUAD

C 66 - Jack Allen

DB 39 - Taveze Calhoun

CB 20 - Brian Dixon

G 73 - John Fullington

QB 18 - Garrett Grayson

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin

WR 19 - Jake Lampmann

DT 96 - Ashaad Mabry

TE 85 - Jake Stoneburner

WR 81 - Jordan Williams


RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha (Prior to Cut to 75)


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)

DB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt (Prior to Cut to 53)

DB 27 - Damian Swann (Prior to Cut to 53)

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui (Prior to Cut to 53)

LB 51 - Jeff Schoettmer (After Cut to 53)

OT 74 - Tyrus Thompson (After Cut to 53)

DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins (After Cut to 53)


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve, Injured (IR)/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)/Non-Football Injury (NFI)/

Did Not Practice (DNP)/Limited In Practice (LIP)

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 24 Defense - 26, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53; Practice Roster - 10/10

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Here is the issue.

Lelito is a solid back up. that is all his is and ever will be.
Kelemete, I am still at a loss for why he is on the team besides lack of talent

Not a starter in the group. Jahri Evans can only tutor some thing worth tutoring.

Turner god only knows if he can learn to pass block and if we had any talented at all at OG he would be on the PS with little risk of being stolen. His pass blocking is a mess but a good risk non the less

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Better look at Leary's physical(s); there's reason for pause...

Now, Lelito I don't get; the past two seasons Lelito has improved, progressed and showed to have a higher ceiling - so he regresses this year?!?

Either Tim is injured or someone has tried f***ing with his game, and that someone needs to evaulte their own process...

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Wonder if Tom Benson will send his plane to bring PJ home after his release?

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He should do
Hopefully the kids ok,i was getting worried eith him not moving. That was a nasty double hit

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Just hoping he doesn't have a spinal contusion or worse...

PJ has played so well this season...

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He has stepped up well.
If he is fine snd Sterling Moore carries on his form of today its a nice trio. Then Harris and Crawley can get the time they need to learn. They both have shown some promise and you expect mistakes. The issue isnt them its the fact they are in a position they have to start

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I really liked what I saw from both Harris and Crawley. We may have found ourselves some solid players there to build with in the future. They gave up some passes but they were right there and provided very good coverage. Some of those plays could have gone either way.

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FWIW, Bell looked good at safety and so did Byrd.

When this team gets healthy at corner, I think the defensive backs will be solid (as I initially thought) with Devante and Crawley developing as the 4th and 5th corners on the depth chart.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Week 3 - New Orleans Saints vs Atlanta Falcons


OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead (LIP)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (2) 73- Jahri Evans, 68 - Tim Lelito

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill (DNP), 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins

LEO (3) 99 - Paul Kruger, 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 54 - Nate Stupar

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe (DNP), 52 - Craig Robertson

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux (DNP), 46 - Ken Crawley, 28 - B.W. Webb

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams (DNP), 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher


PRACTICE SQUAD

C 66 - Jack Allen

DB 39 - Taveze Calhoun

CB 20 - Brian Dixon

G 73 - John Fullington

QB 18 - Garrett Grayson

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin

WR 19 - Jake Lampmann

DT 96 - Ashaad Mabry

TE 85 - Jake Stoneburner

WR 81 - Jordan Williams


RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha (Prior to Cut to 75)


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)

DB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt (Prior to Cut to 53)

DB 27 - Damian Swann (Prior to Cut to 53)

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui (Prior to Cut to 53)

OT 74 - Tyrus Thompson (After Cut to 53)

DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins (After Cut to 53)


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve, Injured (IR)/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)/Non-Football Injury (NFI)/

Did Not Practice (DNP)/Limited In Practice (LIP)

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 24 Defense - 26, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53; Practice Roster - 10/10

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cutting Bobby Richardson was a mistake. solid depth player

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Well, that's that then...Apparently more serious than anyone cared to tell...

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Not necessarily. Right now the Saints are so thin at CB they can't go 2-3 weeks with one on the roster not being able to play. It was like the Spiller deal, they had no choice.

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That would make sense if he was not replaced on the roster by a OT

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I haven't seen that anywhere.

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It came up on my news feed



Saints place CB P.J. Williams on injured reserve, sign OT Tony Hills
NOLA.com‎ - 2 hours ago

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I guess it still makes sense. Neither Strief or Armstead has a true OT backup.

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True
I have been a little worried with Armstead always on the injury list.
It could well be nothing but he is on the limited/questionable list a fair bit

I'd rather see the two rookies play over whats on the street at this time anyway. If they can pull through its will be god for the future

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We need to just do like Carolina and draft 3-4 CB's next year.

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Keep throwing up against the wall till something sticks?

Carpet Bombing?

Perhaps we just need better scouts?

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Week 3 - New Orleans Saints vs Atlanta Falcons


OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead (DNP), 76 - Tony Hills

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (2) 73- Jahri Evans, 68 - Tim Lelito

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief (LIP)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill (DNP), 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (DNP), 87 - Tommylee Lewis


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan (LIP), 55 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison (DNP), 92 - John Jenkins

LEO (3) 99 - Paul Kruger, 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 54 - Nate Stupar

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe (DNP), 52 - Craig Robertson

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux (DNP), 46 - Ken Crawley, 28 - B.W. Webb

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro (DNP), 41 - Roman Harper

RCB (2) 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher


PRACTICE SQUAD

C 66 - Jack Allen

DB 39 - Taveze Calhoun

CB 20 - Brian Dixon

G 73 - John Fullington

QB 18 - Garrett Grayson

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin

WR 19 - Jake Lampmann

DT 96 - Ashaad Mabry

TE 85 - Jake Stoneburner

WR 81 - Jordan Williams


RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson

WR 12 - Kyle Prater

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway

CB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt

DB 27 - Damian Swann

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

OT 74 - Tyrus Thompson

DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins

CB 25 - P.J. Williams


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve, Injured (IR)/Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)/Non-Football Injury (NFI)/

Did Not Practice (DNP)/Limited In Practice (LIP)

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 25 Defense - 25, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53; Practice Roster - 10/10

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Brian Dixon from Practice Squad?

He's certainly earned it.

Aaron Glenn has worked wonders since he got here...

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Getting a bit worried about Armstead always in the injury reports. Is there a lingering issue there?

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I think it's a quad - been bothering him since pre-season.

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Wow...the hits keep coming...Now it's Cam Jordan...

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it looks to a solid CB draft round 1 talent alone

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr
Desmond King CB Iowa 5101 203 4.53 #14 Sr
Jalen Tabor CB Florida 6002 192 4.50 #30 Jr.
Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU 5111 191 4.48 #18 Sr
Cordrea Tankersley CB/FS Clemson 6002 795 4.48 #25 Sr ??

Will they all come out? If so this could set a record for the most CB taken in round 1

Adoree' Jackson I am getting a man crush on. He might be the best all around player in the draft. Right there with Christian McCaffrey. 40 time is one thing but 60, 80 and 100 is another. This kid has some serious long speed. Love the way he has improved his tackling.

Saints swing a deal and land both

Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR
Christian McCaffrey RB/WR/KR

would change the athletic talent on both sides of the ball like adding Mike McKinney and Reggie Bush all in one year