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Personally, I don't wear other men's jerseys with exceptions when I was younger being Archie Manning, Ted Williams, Larry Bird, Pistol Pete and I've worn Steve Gleason's for a fundraiser; I put my name on my jersey and pick a number for that team...

But, I believe Vaccaro gets it together this season and am expecting him to finally fulfill his promise...

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I got to disagree with you here. Way to many boneheaded plays, bad angles, missed tackles for me. If memory serves me right I don't think the FO took a 5th year option out. I swear JP he reminds me of M. Jenkins at a different position. It took letting him leave to wake his a$$ up. The first year KV was here I thought we struck gold and not a thing to really speak of after that, nothing consistanly good that is.

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Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time...

You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks...

That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne...

You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull...

Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace...

Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable...

But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts...

The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)...

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Was disappointed to see us let Ty Walker go.

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QB: Brees, McCown, Grayson
RB: Ingram, Spiller, Hightower, Lasco
FB: Kuhn
WR: Cooks, Snead, Michael Thomas, Coleman, Tommylee Lewis
TE: Fleener, Hill, Hoomanawanni
OT: Armstead, Strief, Hills
OG: Peat, Landon Turner, Kelemete, Lelito
C: Unger, Jack Allen
DT: Fairley, Davison, Jenkins, Onyemata
DE: Jordan, Edebali, Gwacham, Richardson, Tull
WLB: Ellerbe, Stupar
MLB: Lauranitis, Robertson
SLB: Anthony, Mauti
CB: Breaux, Swann, Williams, DeVante Harris, Finnegan
SS: Vaccarro, Harper
FS: Byrd, Bell, Harris
K: Barth
P: Morestead
LS: Drescher

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Like what you did Jasso, but I'd argue that CB Crawley is making the team and Turner, not so much; and I don't think Coleman is making the team either...

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Jenkins as a 34 NT I never bought into. He was a big soft teddy bear in college with some flashes. So changing him into a nasty grizzle was never in the cards IMO.

But as a 43 NT that is possible. Starter? Year one he almost made me eat crow. So he might add some solid over paid for depth as a 43 NT.

Tull? not sure what to say about him right now

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Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp.

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Coach Payton might call that "pedestrian" but Rashaun Allen shouldn't be a threat...

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Allen's drop the other night was a cutable offense.

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I debated about Crawley, but went with Finnegan because, besides him, Breaux is the most experienced CB on the team, and he has one full year in the NFL. So I chose Finnegan to provide veteran leadership at the CB position for our young guys

And I think Landon Turner will make the team. Through the first two preseason games, he's graded out as our highest Guard in both games. Lelito has been one of the lowest graded players, With Peat moving to right guard (where Lelito plays), Turner battles Kelemete at LG.

Here's an article on our Oline grades vs the Texans
Play By Play: Saints Offensive Line versus Houston Texans - Canal Street Chronicles

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Good clip; I see that argument, but Turner should play with the ones and be evaulated so we're comparing apples to apples kinda thing...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Training Camp Post - Preseason Week 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 29 - John Kuhn, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 39 - Sione Houma, 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Reggie Bell, 14 - R.J. Harris, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Tony Hills, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner, 62 - Cyril Lemon

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 73 - John Fullington, 74 - Tyrus Thompson

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (3) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Matt Shaughnessy

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 69 - C.J. Wilson

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 92 - John Jenkins

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 37 - Brandon Dixon

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 42 - Jamal Golden

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 46 - Chris Highland



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young



Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 40, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Yeah, I don't know what's going on there; he's disappeared these past two season when you think about it...

But the team figured we had something to exercise restricted rights on him...

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Intersting read. I hope Turner takes the starting G position from Lelito before Week 1.

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Chris,
According to what I've read, Bryan has had a history of concussions. Solid to above average player but health is still a concern.

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Have alot of respect for the Patriots, I'd rethink jumping on this, at the least, the Patriots move should give you pause...

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Yeah when I posted that I wasn't aware of the injuries he's dealt with. After reading up on him more I don't see much value in signing him.

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"I know we are only warming up coach but I'm still open!" - Michael Thomas

http://image.nola.com/home/nola-medi...75faa9260b.JPG

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JP,

Byrd is going to do a lot more of this in 2016. Get your popcorn ready!


http://image.nola.com/home/nola-medi...7339104eec.JPG

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The Eyes of a Tiger ... keep it up Mr. Thomas. I'm already impressed.

http://image.nola.com/home/nola-medi...15c6990303.JPG

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Training Camp Post - Preseason Week 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 29 - John Kuhn, 34 - Tim Hightower,

23 - Marcus Murphy, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 39 - Sione Houma, 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Reggie Bell, 14 - R.J. Harris, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 79 - Joseph Cheek, 70 - Tony Hills

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner, 62 - Cyril Lemon

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 73 - John Fullington, 74 - Tyrus Thompson

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (3) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Matt Shaughnessy

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 69 - C.J. Wilson

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 92 - John Jenkins

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 37 - Brandon Dixon

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 42 - Jamal Golden

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 46 - Chris Highland



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young



Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 40, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Training Camp PostGame - Preseason Week 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 29 - John Kuhn, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 34 - Tim Hightower,

23 - Marcus Murphy, 39 - Sione Houma, 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Reggie Bell, 14 - R.J. Harris, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 79 - Joseph Cheek, 70 - Tony Hills

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner, 62 - Cyril Lemon

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 73 - John Fullington, 74 - Tyrus Thompson

TE (4) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Matt Shaughnessy

DT (3) 90 - Nick Fairley, 69 - C.J. Wilson, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 92 - John Jenkins

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 42 - Jamal Golden

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 26 - Cortland Finnegan, 46 - Ken Crawley, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 46 - Chris Highland



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young



Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 40, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Just a smokescreen before they pull the trigger.

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Can we just cut everybody

Yes im still not to happy.
Had they kept their first string on they'd have got 50

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Not sure why the refs failed to throw a flag on the Murphy hit. It was pretty bad. Sure hope he is OK... same goes for Lasco.

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Yeah those hits were scary! But that's ok Steelers, what goes around comes around...you'll get yours.

Also, with Hooman down at TE, what do yall think about Manhertz? (I think I spelled it right)

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Well, on my projected depth chart, I just moved both Chris Manhertz and Garrett Griffin ahead of Michael Hoomanawanui (likely IR) and RaShaun Allen (Dead Man Walking)...

And with Josh Hill (M.I.A.), and the pedestrian play of Saints' wide receivers not named Cooks, Snead, Thomas or Tommylee (no relation to Saralee), I have the Saints keeping four (4) Tight Ends...

Payton has mentioned Garrett Griffin in several of his pressers; Coach P has a man crush and he's gonna find a way to keep Garrett Griffin; just wished he'd kept Ryan Griffin...

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Whats wrong with Hoomanawanui? Is he injured? I must have missed that...

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We're gonna have to start tracking refs that blow calls against the Saints; identify those that consistently miss calls and then call them out publicly...

The head-to-head hits, the non-calls of holding on our passrushers, the non-calls of pass interference/holding calls and the flags with high sensitivity on our offensive line...

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Yes, he got rolled up last night (foot, ankle and possibly knee)...

Still no word on the Twittersphere...