Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

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Got to assume making way for Kruger. Be a strange one otherwise

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Well, they were at 82 this morning, so it doesn't necessarily mean Kruger has signed...

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Washington's Stephen Paea been released

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Some new toys, but how long do they last?!?

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Great News! Thinking Hightower may be expendable unless Spiller or ingram are traded...

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I wouldn't let Hightower go
Id be shocked if Ingram and Spiller manage 16 games. Lasco proven nothing so far

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We're not keeping that many running backs...

It'll be Ingram, Spiller, Lasco, Murphy and Kuhn...

Even Cadet at least plays special teams; Hightower doesn't...

And that'll be the difference maker...

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Agreed, Hightower filled in perfectly when Ingram got injured.

I've seen nothing so far this preseason to say that Lasco or Spiller would be able to do that.

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The deadline was an hour ago... Where's the list?!?

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I think they played this waiting game last year too ...

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Chris, how long have you been following the Saints? We'll be lucky if the Mickster and Coach P turn their list in tomorrow...

You know those crazy fax lines in So. Louisiana are always kicking back errors...

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Back to the Practice Squad...

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Cut Down To 75 man roster limit (Currently - 74)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 - Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 29 - John Kuhn,

34 - Tim Hightower, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Tony Hills, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 77 - Khalif Barnes

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 73 - John Fullington

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, 57-Chris McCain

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 37, Defense - 33, Kicking - 4, Total Roster - 74

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Please don't tell me we are keeping Brandon Coleman, he has had a miserable camp and preseason.

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The tweet and my comment were re: R.J. Harris...

And, yes, for now, Coleman is still in the Black & Gold fold...

But there're still transactions to be made to get the roster compliant...

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Young man has overcome some challenges...

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I just meant because RJ Harris had a much better training camp than Coleman did and he gets cut first.

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Coleman is still #4 on the WR depth chart.

Don't think he gets the tap this season ... if his game doesn't improve, maybe next year.

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True Dat...

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Cuts to 75: TE Rashaun Allen, WR Reggie Bell, WR Jared Dangerfield, DB Brandon Dixon, G Kaleb Eulls, DB Jamal Golden, WR R.J. Harris, LS Chris Highland, RB Sione Houma, G Cyril Lemon, DB Jimmy Pruitt, LB Tony Steward

NFL roster cuts tracker: Teams trimming to 75 players - NFL.com

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Everyone kept saying we're down to 75 and I'm counting 74, so I knew we're giving ourselves room to acquire another player, but who?!?

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No pun intended but I think Tapp will eventually get the tap ;).

Tull could also be gone.

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Well, now we're at 75, but we have to cutdown to 53 in less than a week and there's definitely a log jam at that LEO spot...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Cut Down To 75 man roster limit (Currently - 75)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 - Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 29 - John Kuhn,

34 - Tim Hightower, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Tony Hills, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 77 - Khalif Barnes

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 73 - John Fullington

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, 57-Chris McCain, 97-Paul Kruger

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 37, Defense - 34, Kicking - 4, Total Roster - 75

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

I'm thinking something like this...

WDE: Kruger, Edebali, Gwacham

SDE: Jordan, Richardson

It's quite possible that Gwacham gets cut too if Payton really likes this McCain kid.

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From my vantage, we have five (5) men who are essentially going to fight for two (2), maybe three (3) spots...

Kasim Edebali, Obum Gwacham, Davis Tull, Chris McCain and Paul Kruger...

What really sucks is that we have a walk-through practice, a game and then some are going to be let geaux...

Kruger wasn't signed this late into the process without a long-term agenda... 4 in 5

With a draft pick attached to keeping McCain, his retention could be doubtful, but Payton and the Mickster don't value draft picks... 1 in 5

Davis Tull has a terrific first step, athleticism, but is too small to anchor as a 4-3 DE; he's a 3-4 OLB, and maybe could be a SAM backer allowing Anthony to geaux back to MIKE? 1 in 5

Obum Gwachum was unable to anchor in the run game despite his hard work bulking up and with the recent acquisitions it would seem that experiment is done, but Payton has reward players who kept the faith... 2 in 5

Kasim Edebali seemed the heir apparent and had flashes, but has lacked consistency; get the feeling he'll be playing in Buffalo if he's not a DA guy, plus he won't be under contract after the season; expect a trade attempt...2 in 5

McCain acquisition was insurance in case we didn't get Kruger and gave some leverage to Saints...

Either way, what was on the roster didn't give Coach Payton comfort, so if you were a weakside defensive end rusher on the Saints roster prior to Tuesday, you have to be nervous...

It's either an extreme vote of no-confidence or one helluva shot across the bow...

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I think Tull is cut next time around. If this ends up the case, hopefully he can clear waivers and get placed on the practice squad.

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That would be my surprise cut if this in fact happens.

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Well, looks like the roster is back down to 74 - Swann to IR...

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Rest up Swann... We may need you down the road.

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Upon further review...

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Now CJ Wilson is back.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 75 man roster limit (Currently - 75)

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 - Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 7 - Luke McCown

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 29 - John Kuhn,

34 - Tim Hightower, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Jake Lampmann

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Tony Hills, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 77 - Khalif Barnes

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 73 - John Fullington

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Chris Manhertz, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (3) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 69 - C.J. Wilson, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, 57-Chris McCain, 97-Paul Kruger

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper, 26 - Trae Elston

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 46 - Ken Crawley, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth, 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)

DB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt (Prior to Cut to 53)

DB 27 - Damian Swann (Prior to Cut to 53)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 37, Defense - 34, Kicking - 4, Total Roster - 75

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Just watched a couple of the re-broadcast of the local sports last night; all the local fleas are saying the coaches are intimating how much they like Gwachum...

I haven't seen the guy do anything in a game yet, much less do something that makes me geaux "Wow!"

Have seen what I thought I'd see and that is Obum getting engulfed at the point of attack while trying to hold the edge in a run play...

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Observations:

Only two QBs should be retained at this point - Drew Brees and Luke McCown...

Tommylee Lewis and Jordan Williams should be the fourth and fifth wide receivers...

Some guys play in games much better than practice; don't know why Joe Cheek isn't getting into games sooner because he sure flashes...

It's a damn shame Fullington doesn't have more size, he could be awesome with more length and weight...

Tony Hills and Tyrus Thompson are about two of the saddest sacks; only Tim Lelito has to be more disappointing...

Now we know why Jack Allen looked so good; Marcus Henry played with alot of heart, but that was a brutal performance...

Don't drink the cool-aid, Terron Armstead is more broke than Payton is letting on; expect a fine for his reluctant injury disclosures this season...

I'd expect to see the following line a few times this season - Peat - Turner - Unger - Kelemete - Strief; ask Drew at the end of the season how many years he's got let in him then...

With Hooman out, we could have two TEs and two FBs on the roster...

Darryl Tapp wants a job; so does John Jenkins; where was the sense of urgency earlier?

Davis Tull is playing like he just learned about the game of football; Onyemata looked like he's been playing since he was a kid compared to the beginning of training camp...

Ashaad Mabry is a tough out; that would be my toughest cut if I'm Coach Payton; until Jenkins showed up tonight, Mabry outplayed him...

Paul Kruger will start at WDE with Edebali on ready-standby; Gwachum looked lost and Tull looked like a spectator; I'd wait on giving away a 7R pick on McCain - why give up a 7R pick on a limited player?

He must have alot of fans upstairs and in the front office, but Dillon Lee has outpracticed, outplayed Mike Mauti and Mauti is squeezing all is juice from one fortunate play last season...

Finnegan should get a roster spot; Dixon's kicking game coverage may not be enough to secure a job...

I'd like to have seen Vonn Bell and Erik Harris alternate and run with the ones; f*ck, d*mn, sh*t do I hate, regret us signing Byrd...

Barth wins the kicking challenge which means he'll be gone after his first miss by Week 3...

Why didn't the long snapper come out in support of Delta House protesting Kaepernik's disrespect of the national anthem? He should be like Griffin and have to play another position...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 53 man Roster Projection

Note: This is more about thinking what the Saints will do rather than who I'd have on the roster...

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (6) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 29 - John Kuhn

WR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (1) 68 - Tim Lelito

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson

DT (3) 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - John Jenkins

WDE (2) 97-Paul Kruger, 91 - Kasim Edebali

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 41 - Roman Harper

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 39 - Cortland Finnegan, 46 - Ken Crawley


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher



RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha (Prior to Cut to 75)



RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

WR 12 - Kyle Prater (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 77 - D.J. Pettway (Prior to Cut to 75)

DB 43 - Jimmy Pruitt (Prior to Cut to 53)

DB 27 - Damian Swann (Prior to Cut to 53)



RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL INJURY

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen

OL 67 - Avery Young


Projected Starter

Veteran Free Agent Acquisition

Reserve/Injured/PUP/Non-Football Injury

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 25, Defense - 25, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53

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You sound as upbeat as i feel