Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments

frydaddy · 06-04-2020, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back?

Your double standard is showing.

FinSaint · 06-04-2020, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest.

Well, Jenkins did choose to make it very public in the first place.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2020, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back?

Your double standard is showing.

Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals.

There is no double standard whatsoever.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2020, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, Jenkins did choose to make it very public in the first place.

Yes he did, but it was Brees alone that he addressed his anger toward. If there was an apology and both Brees and Jenkins were satisfied then it should be of no concern to anyone else.

FinSaint · 06-04-2020, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes he did, but it was Brees alone that he addressed his anger toward. If there was an apology and both Brees and Jenkins were satisfied then it should be of no concern to anyone else.

I don't disagree with your sentiment, but I feel that if you are willing to condemn someone publicly, you should be able to show forgiveness publicly as well.

Isn't that what leaders do? Lead by example. Show people how to treat others with mutual respect.

I don't personally feel like I'm owed a public apology, just saying that the "optics" aren't great from where I'm seeing.

But, again, I'm just an ignorant foreigner.

frydaddy · 06-04-2020, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals.

There is no double standard whatsoever.

What Brees said was very carefully worded, polite and not at all what Jenkins made it out to be. I have every right to demand he apologize for the attempted public assassination of a good man's character through the weaponization of social media. His behavior was uncalled for and inexcusable. I don't care if Drew offended one person or a hundred ****ing million people. He is as entitled to his opinion as these *******s are. And they CHOSE TO BE OFFENDED. So if they can make demands then so the **** can I. But by all means keep preaching Mr. Contrarian. We all know you live to disagree no matter the subject. Just gotta come huffing in here like you're everyone's grandpa here to get in his daily gripe session.

Danno · 06-04-2020, 04:13 PM

So its OK for the players to demand an apology for what they deem offensive.

Kneeling during the anthem is a hell of a lot more offensive to a hell of a lot more people.

Seems to me the insensitive party in this debate are the players that kneel during what many people hold dear. Its insulting and its intentional.

The players can shove it their ass. GFY!

dizzle88 · 06-04-2020, 05:00 PM

True leadership is Demario Davis.

Did he like what Brees said? No, but he explained Drew missed the point as a whole and explained how his words were perceived.

Did he go on a twitter tirade, telling Brees to shut the **** up like Jenkins or post cryptic one word tweets like Thomas and Sanders? Also no, because he has integrity and knows how to handle things in the correct way.

I get that Jenkins and Thomas and a large majority of the sporting world were unhappy with Brees, but Drew has apologised and it sounded sincere. What doesn't help is people screaming at each other over social media and causing rifts. Racists want to pit the whole world against each other.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2020, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

What Brees said was very carefully worded, polite and not at all what Jenkins made it out to be. I have every right to demand he apologize for the attempted public assassination of a good man's character through the weaponization of social media. His behavior was uncalled for and inexcusable. I don't care if Drew offended one person or a hundred ****ing million people. He is as entitled to his opinion as these *******s are. And they CHOSE TO BE OFFENDED. So if they can make demands then so the **** can I. But by all means keep preaching Mr. Contrarian. We all know you live to disagree no matter the subject. Just gotta come huffing in here like you're everyone's grandpa here to get in his daily gripe session.

It looks like you are the one doing the griping, my friend.

frydaddy · 06-04-2020, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It looks like you are the one doing the griping, my friend.

Fair enough, but I'm not here scolding anyone for not agreeing with me. I'd say easily 75% of your posts are exactly that, on any given day, on any given subject. You're one of the preachiest people I have ever encountered, and frankly it is infuriating sometimes. Particularly when you're so very wrong but you're 100% sure that you're right.

06-04-2020, 03:12 PM	#111
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest. Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back? Your double standard is showing. jnormand, dizzle88, burningmetal and 1 others like this.

06-04-2020, 03:17 PM	#112
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's not for you or any of us to demand how Jenkins should apologize or even if he should apologize to Brees. That is personal between the two of them. It is none of our business, to be honest. Well, Jenkins did choose to make it very public in the first place. jnormand, jeanpierre and frydaddy like this.

06-04-2020, 03:19 PM	#113
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by frydaddy Oh? But it's fine that they demand an apology from him? And it's fine that they demand he agree with them? And it's fine that they took his opinion, which is his business, twisted it and used it to stab him in the back? Your double standard is showing. Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals. There is no double standard whatsoever.

06-04-2020, 03:22 PM	#114
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, Jenkins did choose to make it very public in the first place. Yes he did, but it was Brees alone that he addressed his anger toward. If there was an apology and both Brees and Jenkins were satisfied then it should be of no concern to anyone else.

06-04-2020, 03:38 PM	#115
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes he did, but it was Brees alone that he addressed his anger toward. If there was an apology and both Brees and Jenkins were satisfied then it should be of no concern to anyone else. I don't disagree with your sentiment, but I feel that if you are willing to condemn someone publicly, you should be able to show forgiveness publicly as well. Isn't that what leaders do? Lead by example. Show people how to treat others with mutual respect. I don't personally feel like I'm owed a public apology, just saying that the "optics" aren't great from where I'm seeing. But, again, I'm just an ignorant foreigner. jnormand, frydaddy and burningmetal like this.

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06-04-2020, 03:47 PM	#116
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nope. There is a big difference you are completely missing. Brees said something that offended many people across a wide spectrum. He offered a public apology to the general public for that statement and a private apology to others. What you are claiming Jenkins did was to the individual, Brees. It was not addressed to you, me or any other individual. Therefore, any apology is only applicable to those two individuals. There is no double standard whatsoever. What Brees said was very carefully worded, polite and not at all what Jenkins made it out to be. I have every right to demand he apologize for the attempted public assassination of a good man's character through the weaponization of social media. His behavior was uncalled for and inexcusable. I don't care if Drew offended one person or a hundred **ing million people. He is as entitled to his opinion as these ***s are. And they CHOSE TO BE OFFENDED. So if they can make demands then so the ** can I. But by all means keep preaching Mr. Contrarian. We all know you live to disagree no matter the subject. Just gotta come huffing in here like you're everyone's grandpa here to get in his daily gripe session.
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06-04-2020, 04:13 PM	#117
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments So its OK for the players to demand an apology for what they deem offensive. Kneeling during the anthem is a hell of a lot more offensive to a hell of a lot more people. Seems to me the insensitive party in this debate are the players that kneel during what many people hold dear. Its insulting and its intentional. The players can shove it their ass. GFY! jnormand, skymike and frydaddy like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments True leadership is Demario Davis. Did he like what Brees said? No, but he explained Drew missed the point as a whole and explained how his words were perceived. Did he go on a twitter tirade, telling Brees to shut the **** up like Jenkins or post cryptic one word tweets like Thomas and Sanders? Also no, because he has integrity and knows how to handle things in the correct way. I get that Jenkins and Thomas and a large majority of the sporting world were unhappy with Brees, but Drew has apologised and it sounded sincere. What doesn't help is people screaming at each other over social media and causing rifts. Racists want to pit the whole world against each other. jnormand and saintsfan1976 like this.
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06-04-2020, 05:02 PM	#119
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by frydaddy What Brees said was very carefully worded, polite and not at all what Jenkins made it out to be. I have every right to demand he apologize for the attempted public assassination of a good man's character through the weaponization of social media. His behavior was uncalled for and inexcusable. I don't care if Drew offended one person or a hundred **ing million people. He is as entitled to his opinion as these ***s are. And they CHOSE TO BE OFFENDED. So if they can make demands then so the ** can I. But by all means keep preaching Mr. Contrarian. We all know you live to disagree no matter the subject. Just gotta come huffing in here like you're everyone's grandpa here to get in his daily gripe session. It looks like you are the one doing the griping, my friend. shawnkytonk likes this.

06-04-2020, 05:13 PM	#120
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Backlash from Michael Thomas, among others, forces Drew Brees to clarify comments Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It looks like you are the one doing the griping, my friend. Fair enough, but I'm not here scolding anyone for not agreeing with me. I'd say easily 75% of your posts are exactly that, on any given day, on any given subject. You're one of the preachiest people I have ever encountered, and frankly it is infuriating sometimes. Particularly when you're so very wrong but you're 100% sure that you're right. dizzle88 likes this.