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Old 08-03-2017, 10:51 PM   #571
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - Fresh Meat?

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 2 - Ryan Nassib

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67),
34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet
WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn,
11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Rashad Lawrence
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 62- Kristjan Sokoli

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips *NFI

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA),
81 - Jordan Williams, 87 - Tommylee Lewis

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 55 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI

NT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti

MLB (3) 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Manti Te'o, 99 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA

RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11)

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 31 - Chris Banjo, 30 - Erik Harris

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush, 35 - Robenson Therezie

LCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 34 - Dejaun Butler (UDFA), 40 - Delvin Breaux


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Thomas Gafford, 49 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA)


RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

OC 60 - Max Unger

LT 72 - Terron Armstead


Roster Count - Total: 00; Offense: 45; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4
*Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players

PRACTICE SQUAD*

74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption)


RESERVE/INJURED*

LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe

WR 85 - Dan Arnold


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS*

DT 90 - Nick Fairley


RESERVE/RETIRED*

OL 62 - Chris Watt


KEY:

PROJECTED STARTER

FREE AGENT

ROOKIE

INJURED

“Your best?!? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home (with) the prom queen.” - Sean Connery in The Rock

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Old 08-03-2017, 10:54 PM   #572
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Man, what's with signing these short lifers with injuries?!? WTH is doing the physicals?!? A one-eyed, peg-legged crack head could pass a physical with the Saints right now...

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Old 08-03-2017, 11:26 PM   #573
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Man, what's with signing these short lifers with injuries?!? WTH is doing the physicals?!? A one-eyed, peg-legged crack head could pass a physical with the Saints right now...

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...26788188508161
Is there some kind of advantage to a release with an injury designation? Does it give the player a little travel money that doesn't count against the cap, or give the team some kind of extra bonus in signing other players?
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Old 08-03-2017, 11:37 PM   #574
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RB? No way. Look for guys like QB Josh Allen, DE Sam Hubbard, OL Mitch Hyatt, OL Quenton Nelson, QB Jake Browning, maybe NT Vita Vea (but Onyemata/Davison looks promising)...yeah, that's the ticket...
We have a different view on first round picks as we both know. BPA wins out over needs in round 1 in my perfect world no matter how bad you are hurting at a position. rather spend two picks later on to fill that position of need

Safest pick in the draft to date? IMO
offense - Mike McGlinchey OT Notre Dame 6072 213 5.27 #68 rSr
defense - Bradley Chubb DE N.C. State 6031 273 4.86 #9 Sr

My Top Hype Watch

offense

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr

If he pans out on the hype is a perfect fit for the offense. Adds a few more years to Drews playing time. Watch him pass blocking and picking up blitzes. the offering of cap flexibility is a drum i am really tired of beating.

defense

Vita Vea DT Washington 6041 332 5.19 #50 rJr

If he lives up to the hype this year players like this do not come around every year. He is in the running for my FREAK stamp of approval

Malik Jefferson SLB/MLB/WLB Texas* 6015 238 4.57 #46 Jr

Nothing so far does not scream FREAK to me here. he has to be dumber than a door nail not be on a short list.

I still have not heard an argument of Lattimore over OJ Howard that changes my mind. Howard is the freak pick we will regret not making a first round pick. Especially when we have to pay Coby Fleener $8mill in 2018 and $9mill in 2019 because we have no one better to replace him with. cap drum again

But Latt is a saint so he has 4 years to prove that tendon can hold up.

My BPA approach history. Some crow and some i told you so

4 years and watching
2016 -LT/RG Laremy Tunsil Ole Miss
2015 - WR DeVante Parker Louiville (so far the biggest crow sandwich)
2014 - SS Deone Bucannon Washington St
2013 - LB Alec Ogletree Georgia

Answered already.
2012 - LB Nick Perry USC
2011 - DE Cameron Jordan California
2010 - CB Patrick Robinson FSU
2009 - LB Brian Cushing USC
2008 - LB Keith Rivers USC
2007 - G Ben Grubbs Auburn
2006 - OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson Virginia

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Old 08-04-2017, 08:21 AM   #575
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Is there some kind of advantage to a release with an injury designation? Does it give the player a little travel money that doesn't count against the cap, or give the team some kind of extra bonus in signing other players?
If a player is waived with injury designation they can be placed upon the releasing team's IR if the player clears waivers (none of the other 31 teams claims the player.)

It looks like the Saints want to keep him for next year. He could have either had an injury coming in and they hoped it would heal or he sustained one in camp.
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If a player is waived with injury designation they can be placed upon the releasing team's IR if the player clears waivers (none of the other 31 teams claims the player.)

It looks like the Saints want to keep him for next year. He could have either had an injury coming in and they hoped it would heal or he sustained one in camp.
Or simply redshirt him?
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Or simply redshirt him?
In a way. They came up with that status to keep a team from stashing players that are not truly injured on the IR. If a player is vested (has played a certain number of games) you CAN place them directly on IR. You can't do the same with non-vested players. Thus the "waived with injury designation" used. Now any other team, if they truly think the player isn't injured can claim him. But then THEY can't place him on IR until they also do the "waived with injury designation" move.

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In a way. They came up with that status to keep a team from stashing players that are not truly injured on the IR. If a player is vested (has played a certain number of games) you CAN place them directly on IR. You can't do the same with non-vested players. Thus the "waived with injury designation" used. Now any other team, if they truly think the player isn't injured can claim him. But then THEY can't place him on IR until they also to the "waived with injury designation" move.
Makes sense. Thanks!
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Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.45 #5 Jr
Guice will end up in Cleveland . But it's good to see another young cat with high expectations come out of my high school (Catholic High). We've had a nice run with RB's that have excelled at the next level (Warrick Dunn & Travis Minor).
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