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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; More guards for third round or later 1. Sebastian Tretola vs Kansas State (2015) | Draft Breakdown 2. Denver Kirkland vs Kansas State (2015) | Draft Breakdown The Arkansas guards in these clips looked solid with few mistakes. Good pushes. ...

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Old 01-27-2016, 06:34 PM   #1
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More guards for third round or later

1.Sebastian Tretola vs Kansas State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

2.Denver Kirkland vs Kansas State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

The Arkansas guards in these clips looked solid with few mistakes. Good pushes. Tretola is ranked early fourth range but I expect him to move up. Kirkland is mid fifth round and might move up to early fourth.

3.Jordan Walsh vs Wisconsin (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Jordan Walsh vs Pittsburgh (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Jordan Walsh vs Michigan State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

I was not able to see the last one for some reason, computer would not load the video up. I was about to see it and it's doing it again. But he's 12th ranked as of last ranking(6th among the ones I'm reviewing and I have him 3rd) but he gave his qb time to throw the ball, was great at even run blocking. There was a lot I liked here. I think there were some miscues(very few) but other than that he looked solid here pushing around defenders. As of now he's looking to be early 7th.

4.Graham Glasgow vs Maryland (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Graham Glasgow vs Utah (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Graham Glasgow vs Michigan State (2014) | Draft Breakdown

And the third one again, vs the same team, I could not get completely loaded up. Glasgow has another talent. He can play center and he did it well against Utah. Not as good as the top 3 but the best of the rest. Early sixth round.

5.Christian Westerman vs Texas A&M (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Christian Westerman vs USC (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Just a little less than Glasgow. Late fourth ranking.

6.Joe Dahl vs Oregon (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Joe Dahl vs Stanford (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Joe Dahl vs Rutgers (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Someone on here thinks he should go fourth? Nope, he's ranked in the 7th round and he too often did I see his runningbacks run into him, a problem expressed on here with our RBs, but also he blocked way too close to the QB, getting a good block but not pushing and that's the last thing Brees needs. Also he's played LT in this clips, not LG. But I brought him up because I saw him mentioned on here.

7.Parker Ehinger vs Temple (2015) | Draft Breakdown

This was the only one I saw, didn't see the other ones. The team he plays for is the problem to me. Not a big BCS school but used to be and gets the attention in a way of one which makes the values even worse. He was as good as the previous two or three mentioned but not top four. Late sixth.

I would be wary of drafting Dahl unless he learns to push more but he's a tackle basically. I did not include Kyle Friend because he's mainly a center. And Reese Ohdlambo is injured. Something we do not need to take on given our track record.

All of them are draftable, and better than Turner and Drango.

Draft
Round 3-Tretola
Round 4-Kirkland
Round 6-Glasgow
Round 6-Walsh
Could Draft but prefferably not
Round 3-Westerman
Round 6-Ehinger
Round 7-Dahl

Do Not Draft
No one undraftable here.

We could actually wait on guard and not get one early. Maybe we should get two?
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Jarran Reed, DE/DT, Alabama 6034 313 5.14
I really like Reed. More so than A'Shawn Robinson. ok I will admit it is by a hair and based on the fact he can bounce inside and outside. I like the versatility so he can stay on the field no matter the down.
Good Comparison of the two Bama Defensive Tackles; totally agree with your summation...


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Vernon Butler DT LA Tech 6032 316 5.06
Is tearing up the senior bowl looks to be the big climber this year. people are starting to say first round talent. hmmm
Was wanting to see how he'd do at this level; had him on one of my earlier mocks; I'd feel safer signing Free Agent NT Damon Harrison; but would love to take this kid in the third round...


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Austin Johnson DT Penn State 603 325 5.27
Still like this kid
I'm just not sold on this kid and is too much a risk above round four...

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D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
Is another player that is doing well at the senior bowl. round 3/4 now?
Like idea of taking Reader in round four than Johnson earlier, but that's why we have the senior bowls, pro days and combine...

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Jihad Ward DE/DT Illinios 6051 296 4.98

Not to sure were to put him. he is just like Allen DE/DT that can stay on the field for 3 downs and can bounce inside and out. Basketball kid till 10 th grade so there would appear to be some solid upside still there to work with.
This kid really intrigues me with a late round pick; but he's just not been able to put it together on the field and I don't think we have the defensive coach to make that happen...


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keep an eye on Quinton Jefferson DT Maryland 6040 289 5.02
Really like this guy as a developmental 3-4 Defensive End...

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Want to change the DL completely for the saints?
R1 Jarran Reed, DE/DT, Alabama 6034 313 5.14
R2 Vernon Butler DT LA Tech 6032 316 5.06
R4 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
R5 Jihad Ward DE/DT Illinios 6051 296 4.98

of course i see a trade down in the first
But, but we've got Cam Jordan!!!

Made it clear if Treadway is there, think Saints would make him the pick, but I can see Reed of this bunch in the black and gold and it'd make those Roll Tide types of Saints fans happy - until we start criticizing their play...


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DT is coming up.
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DT is coming up.
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DTs

These are just for first round

1.

With all the off the field problems he really did look the best here. And I expect him to move up before the draft, meaning our chances of getting him are 50/50

2.
Jarran Reed vs Georgia (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Didn't like the first game too much but he looked more relevant against UGA. He should be available when we pick.

3.

He's late first but I was not all that impressed. But he has room to grow because he tried to make plays but he was on a team with other talented players on that defense.

4.

Not impressed at all, too often he was contained by olinemen. And letting teams like WVU, Oklahoma do that does not help at all. I saw the other three able to at least get to the qb more.

Draft
Round 1-Nkemdiche
Round 1-Reed
Round 1-Clark
Do Not Draft
Round 1-Billings
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DTs

These are just for first round

Draft
Round 1-Nkemdiche
Round 1-Reed
Round 1-Clark
Do Not Draft
Round 1-Billings
Reed is the only one with consistent production worth drafting at No. 12...
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DTs

These are just for first round

2.Jarran Reed (Alabama) vs. Tennessee (2015) - YouTube
Jarran Reed vs Georgia (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Didn't like the first game too much but he looked more relevant against UGA. He should be available when we pick.
Jarran Reed, DE/DT, Alabama 6034 313 5.14
I really like Reed. More so than A'Shawn Robinson. ok I will admit it is by a hair and based on the fact he can bounce inside and outside. I like the versatility so he can stay on the field no matter the down.

Vernon Butler DT LA Tech 6032 316 5.06

Is tearing up the senior bowl looks to be the big climber this year. people are starting to say first round talent. hmmm

Austin Johnson DT Penn State 603 325 5.27

Still like this kid

D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
Is another player that is doing well at the senior bowl. round 3/4 now?

Jihad Ward DE/DT Illinios 6051 296 4.98
Not to sure were to put him. he is just like Allen DE/DT that can stay on the field for 3 downs and can bounce inside and out. Basketball kid till 10 th grade so there would appear to be some solid upside still there to work with.

keep an eye on
Quinton Jefferson DT Maryland 6040 289 5.02

Want to change the DL completely for the saints?
R1 Jarran Reed, DE/DT, Alabama 6034 313 5.14
R2 Vernon Butler DT LA Tech 6032 316 5.06
R4 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
R5 Jihad Ward DE/DT Illinios 6051 296 4.98

of course i see a trade down in the first
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6.Joe Dahl vs Oregon (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Joe Dahl vs Stanford (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Joe Dahl vs Rutgers (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Someone on here thinks he should go fourth? Nope, he's ranked in the 7th round and he too often did I see his runningbacks run into him, a problem expressed on here with our RBs, but also he blocked way too close to the QB, getting a good block but not pushing and that's the last thing Brees needs. Also he's played LT in this clips, not LG. But I brought him up because I saw him mentioned on here.
I'd grade him fourth round and am intrigued if he might go higher than fourth...And I watch tape...

Hope this helps...

...A college left tackle, Washington State's Joe Dahl (6-4, 299) kicked inside this week and has impressed at both left and right guard. He keeps his hips low off the snap and sits in his stance with his near 33-inch arms extended to engage.

Dahl is very active with his hands and showed accurate placement to tie-up rushers and control the point of attack. Coming from WSU's spread scheme, there were several question marks regarding Dahl's pro transition, but he answered several of them in Mobile...


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Bleacher Report says we want Jaylon Smith, LB from Notre Dame and brother of former Broncos WR Rod Smith. It continues our trend of taking players coming off injuries, but he's an excellent talent and he will be ready for the regular season.


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Nkemdiche is horribly overrated and has bust written all over him.
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