2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Mel Kiper's pick for us in his mock draft 2.0:

12. New Orleans Saints- Sheldon Rankins, DL, Louisville

The Saints are in the midst of a rebuild on the defensive side of the ball, and Rankins can be unblockable when he's at his best, with exceptional quickness and the ability to make plays in the backfield from the interior. A stellar week in Mobile at the Senior Bowl secured his place in the top half of Round 1.

at 12? sorry i would not be a happy camper. senior bowl does not make up for season and get you into the top 20.

[K Major]

Originally Posted by hagan714

at 12? sorry i would not be a happy camper. senior bowl does not make up for season and get you into the top 20.

What's your report on Rankins?

[hagan714]

I like the kid but his rankings are all post season hype. good way to think about his senior bowl performance is more a refection of the quality of interior OL. not so hot this year. The end of round works but i have that as a bit of a reach. Plus he did not go up against a ton of talent either during the season.

my fear is he can be passed off too easily by an experienced line at the next level. pushed around. That is why i am still not sold on his bull rushing capabilities at the next level. so far i have him as a finesse DT.

But i am waiting on bench, high jump, shuttle and cone times before i completely buy into his quick twitch and power move hype. even then i will go back and look at him again.

lets put it this way a team thinks they need to trade with us to get him, i have little reason right now not to take the picks and move down. plenty of talent at DT this year and so far he has not impressed me enough to think he is a must pick player in the top 20.

[jeanpierre]

Free Agency...

(1) NT Damon Harrison (NYJ), William Penn (Iowa); Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 350 lbs.

(2) DE Malik Jackson (DEN), Tennessee; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 290 lbs.

(3) RG J.R. Sweezy (SEA), NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

(4) LG Tim Lelito (NO), Grand Valley St; 6' 4"; Weight: 315 lbs.

(5) TE Ben Watson (NO), Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 255 lbs.


Draft...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) CB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 200 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112*) LB Joe Schobert, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 247 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 150*) TE Jerell Adams, South Carolina; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 245 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 192*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 232*) OG Ted Karras, Illinois; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 308 lbs.


And it all starts to come together...

[ChrisXVI]

Some interesting pre-Combine notes from Matt Miller at Bleacher Report...

— As the combine approaches, one of the hottest names in the class is Boise State edge-rusher Kamalei Correa. One scout I spoke to this week thinks Correa could propel himself into the top 25 picks of the draft, especially given a weak group at the "EDGE" position this year.

— Clemson cornerback Mackensie Alexander left school after two seasons as a starter, but in talking to one AFC scout this week, they're not a fan of that decision. Three different team scouts confirmed this week that they have Alexander graded as a "Day 3" player given his smaller size (listed at 5'11", 195 lbs) and the fact he didn't record an interception at Clemson.

— The buzz around Louisiana Tech defensive lineman Vernon Butler continues to grow. Said one team scout after watching Senior Bowl practices on tape last week, "Butler can be another Marcell Dareus. He's that good."*

— "I know you guys like Leonard [Floyd], but where the hell are you gonna play him in the NFL?" Those are the very blunt words of one general manager this week, remarking on the 6'4", 230-pound linebacker from Georgia.

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Some interesting pre-Combine notes from Matt Miller at Bleacher Report...

— As the combine approaches, one of the hottest names in the class is Boise State edge-rusher Kamalei Correa. One scout I spoke to this week thinks Correa could propel himself into the top 25 picks of the draft, especially given a weak group at the "EDGE" position this year.

I went back on the kid and so far I see why the upside hype is there

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

— Clemson cornerback Mackensie Alexander left school after two seasons as a starter, but in talking to one AFC scout this week, they're not a fan of that decision. Three different team scouts confirmed this week that they have Alexander graded as a "Day 3" player given his smaller size (listed at 5'11", 195 lbs) and the fact he didn't record an interception at Clemson.

Never bought into the kid completely. at best a see a solid #2 CB in him.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

— The buzz around Louisiana Tech defensive lineman Vernon Butler continues to grow. Said one team scout after watching Senior Bowl practices on tape last week, "Butler can be another Marcell Dareus. He's that good."*

I understand the buzz. wish i could get my hands on more of his tapes

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

— "I know you guys like Leonard [Floyd], but where the hell are you gonna play him in the NFL?" Those are the very blunt words of one general manager this week, remarking on the 6'4", 230-pound linebacker from Georgia.

I think this is kid that has room to fill out a bit more with out effecting his game. But he is a Jack of all trades master of none, that might not ever become of a master of any. great puzzle piece player to jump all around but even in the second i would not be running his name up to the commish. He is a hard player to figure out. He disappeared for long stretches of the season and even when he did reappeared it was nothing more than flashes. He is still living off his preseason hype IMO.

[jeanpierre]

Why draft Floyd when you've got a player in Schobel (Wisconsin) who was extremely productive in college at a high level (Div I Big 10) and will be there somewhere between the fourth and fifth round?!?

I've seen Floyd and I see him as a smallish 4-3 WLB at best that will be oft-injured because I don't seem him filling out that frame...

Really, really like Vernon Butler, but I don't like taking an unproven quantity in the first and he'll probably be gone by the time we pick in the second round; we can't afford to gamble, so I'd make the priority in Free Agency to sign Damon Harrison and have Butler as a Plan B/C...

Don't get the mocks having us take Alexander in the first; gotta be a bunch of Saints/Small Market Haters; Best cornerback we can draft will be a third round pick who should be there for us, Bayor's Xavien Howard...

[jeanpierre]

NFL ponders changes to tests given at annual scouting combine

Changes to the UnderRoos Olympics?!?

Personal preference is drills done in pads with few exceptions (i.e. Bench Press, Wonderlick exam, Personal Interviews)...

[hagan714]

Pre Combine with a twist

Round 1
Jaylon Smith OLB/ILB Notre Dame 6025 240 4.56
Saints can not pass up a WLB talent like this if the knee checks out ok.

Round 2
Hunter Henry*, TE, Arkansas 6052 253 4.79
The Jimmy Grahm replacement but he is a bit better at blocking.

UFA - TE Benjamin Watson. Age 35,
UFA - TE Michael Hoomanawanui. Age 27,
RFA - TE Josh Hill. Age 25,

TE RaShaun Allen. Age 25, Cap $525,000.
TE Jack Tabb. Age 23, Cap $450,000.
TE Chris Manhertz. Age 23, Cap $450,00

Round 3
Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.53
Hand 9½" Arm 31½" Wing 6’4⅛"
Tackling skills are solid to go with coverage and ball hawking abilities.

UFA - Rafael Bush. Age 28, unrestricted free agent.
UFA - Jamarca Sanford. Age 30, unrestricted free agent.
Jairus Byrd. Age 29, cap number: $10.9 million.
Kenny Vaccaro. Age 24, cap number: $2.999 million.
Alden Darby. Age 23, reserve/futures contract
Vinnie Sunseri. Age 24, cap number: $644,125

Round 4
Cody Core WR Mississippi 6205 207 4.49
Hand 10 3/8 Arm 31 1/2 Wing 80 1/2
Cook will no longer be the only WR with the ability to take the top off a defense and he is over 6' in hieght.

2017
FA Marques Colston 32
RFA Brandon Coleman 23
ERFA Willie Snead 23
ERFA Shane Wynn 23
ERFA Reggie Bell 23
ERFA R.J. Harris 23


Round 5
Adam Gotsis, DE, Georgia Tech 6046 285 4.88
Has been a favorite of mine since 2015. He has a good floor and plenty of upside still left.


Round 6 New Orleans → Washington (PD).
6th in 2015 and 2016 to Wash for Wash 2015 5th - Damian Swann

Round 7
Mike Jordan, CB/FS, Missouri Western 6006 200 4.50
Hand 9 3/8 Arm 31 1/2 Wing 82 3/8
Can never have enough good CB. Solid in press, off man and zone coverages. Solid tackler. Proved is abilities at the Shrine game.

2016
UFA Kyle Wilson 28
UFA Christopher Owens 29


UDFA
Cap competition. This kid has an incredible ability of ball placement.
Peter Mortll P Minnesota 6012 192 4.94

P Thomas Morstead. Age 29, cap $4.45 million.

Brad Craddock K Maryland 6003 192 4.88
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00
Eric Rawls, DB, Kentucky State 6020 195 4.41
Tevin Carter S Utah 6012 215 4.48
Brennan Scarlett DE/OLB Stanford 6032 264 4.96
Jonah Austin, G/OT, Nicholls State 6052 330 5.35
backup to starter La'el Collins at left guard in 2012
Ryker Mathews BYU OG/OT BYU 6052 320 5.26

Rashad Robinson CB LSU - let see what interviews bring.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by hagan714

Pre Combine with a twist

Round 1 Jaylon Smith OLB/ILB Notre Dame 6025 240 4.56
Round 2 Hunter Henry*, TE, Arkansas 6052 253 4.79
Round 3 Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.53
Round 4 Cody Core WR Mississippi 6205 207 4.49
Round 5 Adam Gotsis, DE, Georgia Tech 6046 285 4.88
Round 6 New Orleans → Washington (PD).
6th in 2015 and 2016 to Wash for Wash 2015 5th - Damian Swann
Round 7 Mike Jordan, CB/FS, Missouri Western 6006 200 4.50

UDFA
Cap competition. This kid has an incredible ability of ball placement.
Peter Mortll P Minnesota 6012 192 4.94

P Thomas Morstead. Age 29, cap $4.45 million.

Brad Craddock K Maryland 6003 192 4.88
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00
Eric Rawls, DB, Kentucky State 6020 195 4.41
Tevin Carter S Utah 6012 215 4.48
Brennan Scarlett DE/OLB Stanford 6032 264 4.96
Jonah Austin, G/OT, Nicholls State 6052 330 5.35
backup to starter La'el Collins at left guard in 2012
Ryker Mathews BYU OG/OT BYU 6052 320 5.26

Rashad Robinson CB LSU - let see what interviews bring.

Definitely like Gotsis...

Like some of those UDFA...

Someone is going to throw out at least a 6th Round pick on Austin...

Ryker Mathews has intriguing size...

Can't see keeping Morstead at that cap number; not with that production...