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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Gotsis was injured and likely falls, but the guy reminds me alot of the Broncos DE Derek Wolfe; R7, S16 (Pick 208*) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 285 lbs. Talk about a ...

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Old 02-11-2016, 08:00 AM   #281
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Gotsis was injured and likely falls, but the guy reminds me alot of the Broncos DE Derek Wolfe;
R7, S16 (Pick 208*) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 285 lbs.
Talk about a steal. I strongly consider picking him in the fourth. He is one of my favorite players to take a risk on and develop. injury was in early November so the medical evals should be trust worthy. I can not see him getting out of the 5th if all checks out. too much upside with a solid floor.

R4 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
R5 Adam Gotsis, DE, Georgia Tech 6046 285 4.88
R7 LeShaun Sims CB Southern Utah 6003 201 4.45

If these were the final 3 picks for the saints I would be tickle pink. All solid risk development players that can make this team

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In two weeks, the on-field workouts begin for the combine...

Source: 2016 NFL Scouting Combine schedule of events - NFL.com

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Talk about a steal. I strongly consider picking him in the fourth. He is one of my favorite players to take a risk on and develop. injury was in early November so the medical evals should be trust worthy. I can not see him getting out of the 5th if all checks out. too much upside with a solid floor.

R4 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
R5 Adam Gotsis, DE, Georgia Tech 6046 285 4.88

R7 LeShaun Sims CB Southern Utah 6003 201 4.45

If these were the final 3 picks for the saints I would be tickle pink. All solid risk development players that can make this team
Well, he's got the late late season knee injury, plus he didn't really start playing football till college coming from Australia...

If we took Gotsis in the fifth, that wouldn't be bad...

DJ Reader worries me; would really like more details on his "personal reasons" for leaving the team; I get losing your father, but Clemson has had its share of personal substance abuse problems recently - and we need every draft pick with the salary cap hell we'll in...

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Oddly enough it is the lack of talent at a position that can drive players up the chart also. WLB is a questionable position this year. A lot of players are hype driven at WLB.
This is why for months I've beaten the drum for either Danny Trevathan or Brandon Marshall (RFA)...

Was glad to see Ellerbe redo his contract, but at his age, can he ever get healthy?!?

Still think the first two (2) priority free agent signings should be, first, NT Damon Harrison (Jets) and, second, WLB Danny Trevathan (Broncos)...

With Ellerbe redoing his contract, get the feeling the Saints are thinking draft for a WLB and for the second priority FA signing, it'll be a guard...

If I were the Saints GM, I'd sign Harrison, which will take a signicant contract; then, if Brees wants better Guard protection, I'd use that as leverage in a re-worked deal - "You want 15+ or are you willing to knock it down to 10 and allow us to go out and pay a Evan Mathis and Alex Boone?!?"

No matter what happens, we must acquire a proven NT like Harrison and not risk it in the draft...
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Well, he's got the late late season knee injury, plus he didn't really start playing football till college coming from Australia...

If we took Gotsis in the fifth, that wouldn't be bad...

DJ Reader worries me; would really like more details on his "personal reasons" for leaving the team; I get losing your father, but Clemson has had its share of personal substance abuse problems recently - and we need every draft pick with the salary cap hell we'll in...
Reader says the decision was all his own, after feeling he was not mentally ready to play. His father’s death still weighed on him, but Reader says he also felt he needed to grow up. So rather than take the starting opportunity that was there waiting for him, he took a step back.

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“I got to spend a lot of me time, getting to know myself a lot better. It was good for me,” Reader said. “I learned I had a lot of growing up to do. Through that process it helped me grow a lot. That’s really the main thing that got done.”

Where did he grow the most?

“I think I just grew mentally. I’m a lot mentally stronger now. I’m excited to see where that takes me.”


D.J. Reader made himself -- and Clemson -- better during time away - ACC Blog- ESPN


I really see no issue with why he and what he did.

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Reader says the decision was all his own, after feeling he was not mentally ready to play. His father’s death still weighed on him, but Reader says he also felt he needed to grow up. So rather than take the starting opportunity that was there waiting for him, he took a step back.

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“I got to spend a lot of me time, getting to know myself a lot better. It was good for me,” Reader said. “I learned I had a lot of growing up to do. Through that process it helped me grow a lot. That’s really the main thing that got done.”

Where did he grow the most?

“I think I just grew mentally. I’m a lot mentally stronger now. I’m excited to see where that takes me.”


D.J. Reader made himself -- and Clemson -- better during time away - ACC Blog- ESPN


I really see no issue with why he and what he did.
I'd be sure he's carefully vetted re: those statements; if accurate, then it swings the other way for him on his character and personality profile with a positive...
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Here's my final DT rundown. Next up, I will get to DE. I'm anxious to get to TE and WRs.

1.Maliek Collins vs Wisconsin (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He was always getting to the QB, and seemed to be quick against linemen and could get after the run. This video was against the highly proficient Wisconsin offense. Collins is expected to be late round 3.

2.Javon Hargrave vs UAPB (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He was the best of the five I saw, but I have him second because of the conference. MEAC isn't known for churning out NFL players. Though Hargrave was dominant, will that translate to a NFL level bigger than opponents he never faced in college? He's going round 4.

3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=pH-2RUGZgg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=FxxZGC2F_Y4
He was solid but could have been better. Looking to be round 3.

4.

While he could get near the qb a lot. Two glaring things, he was not good at disrupting the pocket, qbs could run out of the pocket and make him miss. And he could not stop the run, and RBs would run where he could not go after them. Also, he had a habit of always falling down. The thing that stands out about him? He's a wannabe Troy with the hair.

5.
Wasn't impressed at all. He was also playing against WVU, one of the least NFL caliber offenses in college. Also, he got a lot of help with his fellow safety Reed. He should not be drafted.

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Round 3-Collins, Hargrave, or Jones
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Round 3-Day
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Old 02-11-2016, 08:54 PM   #288
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Here's my final DT rundown. Next up, I will get to DE. I'm anxious to get to TE and WRs.

1.Maliek Collins vs Wisconsin (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He was always getting to the QB, and seemed to be quick against linemen and could get after the run. This video was against the highly proficient Wisconsin offense. Collins is expected to be late round 3.

...Collins isn't the most intimidating defensive tackle prospect on the sidelines with average size and bulk, but his play stands out due to his impressive movement skills.
After leading Nebraska with 13.0 tackles for loss in 2014 to go along with 4.5 sacks, Collins failed to build on those numbers last season, finishing with 7.0 stops behind the line and 2.5 sacks. He opted not to return for Year Two under coach Mike Reilly, forgoing his final season to enter the draft...



...WEAKNESSES: Lacks the brute strength to overwhelm his opponent in tight spaces and most blockers can match him power-for-power. Easily moved by double-teams and can be washed out of the hole by angle blocks. Stuck on blocks too long. Still developing his counter moves, struggling if he doesn't win with his initial step. Will overrun the pocket and needs to better control his momentum in tight spaces. Needs to better protect his lower body off the snap. Scheme-specific and lacks desired versatility.

IN OUR VIEW: Collins lacks the bulk and power scouts would prefer in an interior defensive lineman...


Source: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

We already have guys like this on the roster...

Now DE/DT Jarran Reed, Alabama or NT Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech are the only high round defensive linemen I'd take that would complement this front seven...

This is a very deep class for DT and DE and we still could upgrade in the later rounds though I'd agree we need at least one big impact DL through FA (i.e. NT Damon Harrison, DE Malik Jackson) and one in the draft...

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Out of those five, he looked the second best(behind Hargrave). Not saying he's better than the first eight I brought up.
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My Current Slate...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 317 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) LB Antwione Williams, Georgia Southern; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 247 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) TE Jerell Adams, South Carolina; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 245 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 285 lbs.

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