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spkb25 08-08-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 758020)
Whoever the QB of the defense is needs to remain on the field at all times. There is a different sense of the game you have when your on the field the entire game.

Agree. I remember Vilma always doing a good job with that

spkb25 08-08-2017 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758012)
I love it when people play poor little me about something bad that happened to them. Especially when it's because they can't come up with a come back for something they started or provoked in the first place.

This is a classic scene, made me roll


The Dude 08-08-2017 09:55 PM

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I heard they switched Anthony to middle the last couple days.

I love how our two "steals" in the draft who's only knock was injury history are injured.
Didn't see this coming.

But on a positive note, just because every post has to be positive I heard there were zero bad snaps today.

spkb25 08-08-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758036)
I heard they switched Anthony to middle the last couple days.

I love how our two "steals" in the draft who's only knock was injury history are injured.
Didn't see this coming.

But on a positive note, just because every post has to be positive I heard there were zero bad snaps today.

Yeah I am a bit confused by the Anthony move back to the middle...I am getting worried he may not live up to his abilities. Hope he fits in somewhere and at least we appear to have some decent depth there...

AsylumGuido 08-08-2017 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758035)
This is a classic scene, made me roll

Van Wilder massive poop scene - YouTube

See you changed the title of the video from the direct mention the colon referring to my cancer. Starting to feel guilty about all of the references to the fact that I have dealt with colon cancer?

The Dude 08-09-2017 12:44 AM

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Actually I think losers are the people who sit around all day combing the internet for articles related to the Saints in order to impress
Total strangers on a message board. You can always tell who they are when they post back to back posts sometimes quoting themselves. Of course belittling other people who have different opinions can make one feel a lot better about themselves.

Hey at least they can just disappear when things don't go well or when they are proven wrong.

halloween 65 08-09-2017 06:36 AM

Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758038)
Yeah I am a bit confused by the Anthony move back to the middle...I am getting worried he may not live up to his abilities. Hope he fits in somewhere and at least we appear to have some decent depth there...

If Anthony can grasp the playcalling thats a good thing moving him back and forth. Nolan is hopefully bringing him up to speed in the middle and weakside.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758049)
Actually I think losers are the people who sit around all day combing the internet for articles related to the Saints in order to impress
Total strangers on a message board. You can always tell who they are when they post back to back posts sometimes quoting themselves. Of course belittling other people who have different opinions can make one feel a lot better about themselves.

Hey at least they can just disappear when things don't go well or when they are proven wrong.

I read every article I can find on the Saints. I have been doing that for years. In the past most of the articles had already been posted by the time I found them. I am now retired and therefore have the time to find them before they have been posted by others, therefore, exactly like any other member interested in sharing information, I post the article.

And I have never disappeared when proven wrong. And, unlike you, on the rare occasion that I am wrong I readily admit to the fact.

And I have never disappeared when things don't go well. I stopped posting for several days last September when a handful of you were plastering every thread in the forum with tons of negative crap, but I was in the forum every day, all day, just like now, wallowing through the waist deep negativity that was being spewed while trying to keep up with the team I have supported every day since 1967.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 07:56 AM

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Seer1 08-09-2017 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 758059)

I've got a bad feeling about this.....

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 758063)
I've got a bad feeling about this.....

Why's that? It just gives the defense one more thing to fret over. I would like to see it used a couple of times in the preseason just to force DC's to focus on one more thing in preparation. Then we hold off until the Super Bowl to use it.

:D

The Dude 08-09-2017 11:54 AM

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Didn't he call that play once? I feel like I remember them trying something like that but maybe there was a flag or something right after the snap that saved our ass.

spkb25 08-09-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758049)
Actually I think losers are the people who sit around all day combing the internet for articles related to the Saints in order to impress
Total strangers on a message board. You can always tell who they are when they post back to back posts sometimes quoting themselves. Of course belittling other people who have different opinions can make one feel a lot better about themselves.

Hey at least they can just disappear when things don't go well or when they are proven wrong.

Colon Blow

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cjB3olhVKU...test+prize.jpg

The Dude 08-09-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 758053)
If Anthony can grasp the playcalling thats a good thing moving him back and forth. Nolan is hopefully bringing him up to speed in the middle and weakside.

At least Anthony has one thing going for him. He doesn't have cramps.

spkb25 08-09-2017 11:57 AM

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spkb25 08-09-2017 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758094)
At least Anthony has one thing going for him. He doesn't have cramps.

I keep hoping he gets it done and plays a nice roll with us.

The Dude 08-09-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758095)

Bingo. Funny thing is how much *****ing there is right now about how negative people are being yet the colon continues to blow. There are no games being lost so I guess it's ok to follow the team now because they aren't losing.

halloween 65 08-09-2017 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758096)
I keep hoping he gets it done and plays a nice roll with us.

Me too. I never wanted to draft him but watching the kid his rookie season he impressed me. I dont have a clue to what Allen and Vitt were thinking last season bringing in a way over done player and not starting him last season and when he got his chance because of injury he played really well. I hope Nolan turns him into a stud and makes Allen and Vitt look stupid in the process. Changing DC's hurt him last season and Vitt never excelled as a lb. coach or was even a good lb. coach and that hurt his progress also.

Seer1 08-09-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 758068)
Why's that? It just gives the defense one more thing to fret over. I would like to see it used a couple of times in the preseason just to force DC's to focus on one more thing in preparation. Then we hold off until the Super Bowl to use it.

:D

Three reasons off the top of my head: My first is that it only worries someone if it actually works. Think back to the number of times that trick plays actually worked at that level of play where the guy throwing hasn't actually been a college QB in the past. I mean trick plays in the NFL? Really? Success is pretty rare. These guys are pros who've seen most everything between YAFL and today. You can point at our onsides kick during the Superbowl. That's just one success. Then how many unsuccessful trick plays can you honestly bring to mind? Secondly, Mark's a little... well volatile. He seems to not always think things through as he's on the field. He gets out there to do that and his adrenaline could see that ball just about anywhere but where it should be. I think I'd rather see AP or Alvin in charge of the ball if they really have to do that play. Thirdly, there's a reason good QBs are so rare...

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758093)

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758099)
Bingo. Funny thing is how much *****ing there is right now about how negative people are being yet the colon continues to blow. There are no games being lost so I guess it's ok to follow the team now because they aren't losing.

Now aren't you two children so cute. I'd say grow up, but if you haven't by this stage of your lives you never will.

:rolleyes:

spkb25 08-09-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 758100)
Me too. I never wanted to draft him but watching the kid his rookie season he impressed me. I dont have a clue to what Allen and Vitt were thinking last season bringing in a way over done player and not starting him last season and when he got his chance because of injury he played really well. I hope Nolan turns him into a stud and makes Allen and Vitt look stupid in the process. Changing DC's hurt him last season and Vitt never excelled as a lb. coach or was even a good lb. coach and that hurt his progress also.

with you!

spkb25 08-09-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758099)
Bingo. Funny thing is how much *****ing there is right now about how negative people are being yet the colon continues to blow. There are no games being lost so I guess it's ok to follow the team now because they aren't losing.

Absolutely, but (and let's hope this does not happen because I have high hopes this team is turning the corner) the losing begins we have to send out the search party. Like last year

spkb25 08-09-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 758106)
Three reasons off the top of my head: My first is that it only worries someone if it actually works. Think back to the number of times that trick plays actually worked at that level of play where the guy throwing hasn't actually been a college QB in the past. I mean trick plays in the NFL? Really? Success is pretty rare. These guys are pros who've seen most everything between YAFL and today. You can point at our onsides kick during the Superbowl. That's just one success. Then how many unsuccessful trick plays can you honestly bring to mind? Secondly, Mark's a little... well volatile. He seems to not always think things through as he's on the field. He gets out there to do that and his adrenaline could see that ball just about anywhere but where it should be. I think I'd rather see AP or Alvin in charge of the ball if they really have to do that play. Thirdly, there's a reason good QBs are so rare...

Yeah sometimes the tricks can trick yourself. Like the fumble on an errant reverse to reverse pitch, lol. We have had some of those. I like trick plays, but if you don't catch em sleeping you need to make the smart play.

Utah_Saint 08-09-2017 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758116)
Yeah sometimes the tricks can trick yourself. Like the fumble on an errant reverse to reverse pitch, lol. We have had some of those. I like trick plays, but if you don't catch em sleeping you need to make the smart play.

I think that's why Guido said he'd like to see them in pre season. If they work, then defensive coordinators all season will have to think twice about the possibility and if they don't work, it's preseason so no harm no foul.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 758106)
Three reasons off the top of my head: My first is that it only worries someone if it actually works. Think back to the number of times that trick plays actually worked at that level of play where the guy throwing hasn't actually been a college QB in the past. I mean trick plays in the NFL? Really? Success is pretty rare. These guys are pros who've seen most everything between YAFL and today. You can point at our onsides kick during the Superbowl. That's just one success. Then how many unsuccessful trick plays can you honestly bring to mind? Secondly, Mark's a little... well volatile. He seems to not always think things through as he's on the field. He gets out there to do that and his adrenaline could see that ball just about anywhere but where it should be. I think I'd rather see AP or Alvin in charge of the ball if they really have to do that play. Thirdly, there's a reason good QBs are so rare...

Let me point out another RB that Brees played with, LaDainian Tomlinson. Tomlinson was never a QB as far as I know and he was 8 for 12 in those trick plays with 7 resulting in TD's, including a TD pass to Brees himself.

Just saying.

;)

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 758118)
I think that's why Guido said he'd like to see them in pre season. If they work, then defensive coordinators all season will have to think twice about the possibility and if they don't work, it's preseason so no harm no foul.

That was exactly the point I was making. Nothing to lose.

spkb25 08-09-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 758118)
I think that's why Guido said he'd like to see them in pre season. If they work, then defensive coordinators all season will have to think twice about the possibility and if they don't work, it's preseason so no harm no foul.

There's no defensive coordinator who is looking at preseason tape and saying holy **** they just threw a half back pass...we better be careful with what we do.

Did we do a lot of onside kicks in 09 preseason?

Seer1 08-09-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 758119)
Let me point out another RB that Brees played with, LaDainian Tomlinson. Tomlinson was never a QB as far as I know and he was 8 for 12 in those trick plays with 7 resulting in TD's, including a TD pass to Brees himself.

Just saying.

;)

Good point Guido. And also a good point about it being preseason Utah. I just don't really like trick plays (or pitch backs near the goal line for that matter) very much. Plus I really, really don't think Ingram's the guy to try it with.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758122)
There's no defensive coordinator who is looking at preseason tape and saying holy **** they just threw a half back pass...we better be careful with what we do.

Did we do a lot of onside kicks in 09 preseason?

NFL DC's look at every potential opponent's play, pre-season, regular season, or in the case of the Patriots, even during closed practices.

spkb25 08-09-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758099)
Bingo. Funny thing is how much *****ing there is right now about how negative people are being yet the colon continues to blow. There are no games being lost so I guess it's ok to follow the team now because they aren't losing.

there was a few people on here very inaccurate with their season projections for wins last. As soon as they were wrong they hid, then came back after a few wins, then went back into witness protection, and finally began the usual excuse making.

AsylumGuido 08-09-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758148)
there was a few people on here very inaccurate with their season projections for wins last. As soon as they were wrong they hid, then came back after a few wins, then went back into witness protection, and finally began the usual excuse making.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. First, my pre-season prediction is the same every year, 19-0. I have never played those prediction games. Nobody has a clue until the games are played. Secondly, I have never hid. I stopped posting for a few days when you and a couple of others were going from thread to thread spouting your negative bullcrap everywhere. That was the first and only time I have voluntarily refrained from posting in this forum. It was because you made the forum unbearable. It had absolutely nothing to do with the Saints losing. I feel the same about the Saints whether they are 5-0 or 0-5. I am just as proud of my Saints whatever the record may be. I stopped posting until you shot your wad.

It's the same reason I have stopped participating in the game day chat. You have turned it into your own private b:tchfest. And I'm not the only one. When it first started it was mostly friendly intelligent chat about the game being played. You and a couple of others ruined that.

Of course, you won't get any of this. It is beyond you.

The Dude 08-09-2017 03:29 PM

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Who cares, trick plays are going to happen. They are always a gamble, that's the point. They are usually done out of desperation or to show other teams you are going balls out. Win some lose some. When it becomes a habit or part of the game plan is when it's a problem.
What worries me is weather or not Payton gets to cute if a couple go his way.

I've never seen Payton call a trick play in a real game that he did in preseason. Maybe an onside kick but I really don't consider those trick plays anywY

spkb25 08-09-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 758159)
Who cares, trick plays are going to happen. They are always a gamble, that's the point. They are usually done out of desperation or to show other teams you are going balls out. Win some lose some. When it becomes a habit or part of the game plan is when it's a problem.
What worries me is weather or not Payton gets to cute if a couple go his way.

I've never seen Payton call a trick play in a real game that he did in preseason. Maybe an onside kick but I really don't consider those trick plays anywY

didn't we run a nice flea flicker vs the Rams last season? Low Energy was juice for that game

spkb25 08-09-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758160)
didn't we run a nice flea flicker vs the Rams last season? Low Energy was juice for that game

Look Dude I am quoting myself to post to you the trick play vs Rams. It helps my posting stats. Not a flea flicker it was Snead to hightower. Check at about 4:30 seconds. Pretty sweet play.


Seer1 08-09-2017 05:53 PM

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Who is Low Energy?

spkb25 08-09-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 758179)
Who is Low Energy?

Was a joke that another poster coined SP as. I can't remember who came up with it...

CheramieIII 08-09-2017 06:50 PM

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what the hell is going on here?

spkb25 08-09-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 758199)
what the hell is going on here?


Seer1 08-09-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758198)
Was a joke that another poster coined SP as. I can't remember who came up with it...

Oh yeah, I thought that sounded familiar. Honestly spkb, I don't want to remember who it was. I don't really look at the flea flicker as a trick play and that one was awesome!

Regardless of how it's been looked at and often discussed, as of tomorrow we're 0-0 and on the road to the championship! I found the game on my guide and have the Hopper set! Are you as ready for some football as I am?!?!

Seer1 08-09-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 758199)
what the hell is going on here?

A bunch anxiously excited goofballs getting ready for some football. You game?


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