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AsylumGuido 08-05-2017 01:51 PM
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The man is bringing it.

AsylumGuido 08-05-2017 01:53 PM
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Line of the day from one of the Saints' funniest players -- offensive lineman Khalif Barnes – when asked to describe the weather Saturday: "Hot. Humid. Muggy. Hot with a capital H, little o, big T. Wet. … But, no, I think it's good. I can eat more pizza tonight."

Mike Triplett, ESPN Staff Writer

spkb25 08-05-2017 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 757497)
Just weird that it always seems to be defensive players getting hit by it and not offensive players.
Not enough VagiClean

The Dude 08-05-2017 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 757505)
Not enough VagiClean
Whole defense needs a douche shower.

hagan714 08-05-2017 07:00 PM
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toughen them up baby.

Beastmode 08-05-2017 07:10 PM
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It could be the weather. Probably some truth to it but easy to mitigate ; drink fluids! Outside of that, the reporting on actual injuries and dehydration is awful. If someone is seriously hurt what is the point in hiding it? Games are way down range and all will know what they are facing at that point.

K Major 08-05-2017 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 757502)
At :04 notice how Mr. Crawley turned his head around to play the ball? Although he was thrown into the fire early last season, I don't believe he did this (played the ball) much last year. Steady improvement ... keep an eye on this guy.

jeanpierre 08-05-2017 11:00 PM
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spkb25 08-06-2017 12:30 AM
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All I kept reading on Twitter was a new and different name speaking with a trainer or getting carted off

skymike 08-06-2017 01:29 AM
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we are going to win this year.
character.

jeanpierre 08-06-2017 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 757572)
All I kept reading on Twitter was a new and different name speaking with a trainer or getting carted off
Well, many of the injuries are actually aggravated when a guy has an extreme cramp, spasm and then makes a tear while trying to walk-off...

You've got millions of dollars (much of it was ours) sitting there in athletes, staff, equipment, so why not use those resources?

I grew up before the advent, development in much of modern kinesioligy where you just manned-up and rubbed dirt on it...

With players getting so much faster, bigger and making more dramatic displays of athleticism, there's going to be adjustments all around the peripheries of the game...

And then you even guys like Hau'oli Kikaha that would never have made it this far in the NFL, much less be playing after a third ACL!!!

Many of the guys getting carted off are just cramps where they're immediately brought to the training room, probably for electrolyte treatment...

Again, you've got millions of dollars invested in professional players, support staff, and advanced amenities, why would you not be smart and maximize your investment all around?

spkb25 08-06-2017 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 757586)
Well, many of the injuries are actually aggravated when a guy has an extreme cramp, spasm and then makes a tear while trying to walk-off...

You've got millions of dollars (much of it was ours) sitting there in athletes, staff, equipment, so why not use those resources?

I grew up before the advent, development in much of modern kinesioligy where you just manned-up and rubbed dirt on it...

With players getting so much faster, bigger and making more dramatic displays of athleticism, there's going to be adjustments all around the peripheries of the game...

And then you even guys like Hau'oli Kikaha that would never have made it this far in the NFL, much less be playing after a third ACL!!!

Many of the guys getting carted off are just cramps where they're immediately brought to the training room, probably for electrolyte treatment...

Again, you've got millions of dollars invested in professional players, support staff, and advanced amenities, why would you not be smart and maximize your investment all around?
I have no idea what the guys were carted off for I haven't seen any reports. If some have come out post them my man!

Yes I hope they're just cramps and yeah heat is mother, but there were a lot of guys getting carted of or talking with trainers.

Did reports come out saying it was cramps? I hope it is

Crusader 08-06-2017 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 757497)
Just weird that it always seems to be defensive players getting hit by it and not offensive players.
Actually not that wierd. I have always seen the same pattern at every national team camp i have been to. I think the main thing is that defensive players tend to run a lot more and harder than the offensive players. Mainly because they always have the goal to get to the ball on every play.

AsylumGuido 08-06-2017 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 757589)
I have no idea what the guys were carted off for I haven't seen any reports. If some have come out post them my man!

Yes I hope they're just cramps and yeah heat is mother, but there were a lot of guys getting carted of or talking with trainers.

Did reports come out saying it was cramps? I hope it is
Payton said they were cramps and dehydration in his presser.

The Dude 08-06-2017 09:00 AM
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Hoping it's cramps. Payton said some were cramps but again he's rarely truthful. I'm wondering which were and which weren't.

spkb25 08-06-2017 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 757594)
Hoping it's cramps. Payton said some were cramps but again he's rarely truthful. I'm wondering which were and which weren't.
Thank you. He did not make a blanket statement they were all cramps. Let's keep fingers crossed since so many people were going down it was all cramps. Why do some people choose to be dishonest in what they say. I honestly do not get it.

jeanpierre 08-06-2017 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 757589)
I have no idea what the guys were carted off for I haven't seen any reports. If some have come out post them my man!

Yes I hope they're just cramps and yeah heat is mother, but there were a lot of guys getting carted of or talking with trainers.

Did reports come out saying it was cramps? I hope it is
There will be no official injury reports as the teams (Head Coaches) are not compelled by league rules to disclose at this time...

On the Twittersphere, many of the Saints Beat Reporters have started tweeting updates on specific players and that the cart-offs were for cramps from the heat...

Example...

spkb25 08-06-2017 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 757596)
There will be no official injury reports as the teams (Head Coaches) are not compelled by league rules to disclose at this time...

On the Twittersphere, many of the Saints Beat Reporters have started tweeting updates on specific players and that the cart-offs were for cramps from the heat...

Example...

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...09450339307525
Which players, and if it is just cramps SP is going to say that like he did with Anthony. If iot is an injury he is going to stay quiet or say he has a knee, etc

spkb25 08-06-2017 09:47 AM
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Looks like it might be something more than cramps with Snead. Hopefully nothing serious

spkb25 08-06-2017 09:52 AM
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is Warford back, anyone know?

The Dude 08-06-2017 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 757595)
Thank you. He did not make a blanket statement they were all cramps. Let's keep fingers crossed since so many people were going down it was all cramps. Why do some people choose to be dishonest in what they say. I honestly do not get it.
Better year why does anyone believe a word Payton says about injuries? For ten years it's been the same. "So and so has a minor injury, expect him back soon" just for them to be out weeks or go on IR. It's Payton's M.O.
I understand why he does it, I just don't understand why people take it to heart every single time he does it even though he has proven to minimize severity of injuries time and time again.

Sure we all hope for the best but to expect his pattern to change is short sighted.

spkb25 08-06-2017 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 757606)
Better year why does anyone believe a word Payton says about injuries? For ten years it's been the same. "So and so has a minor injury, expect him back soon" just for them to be out weeks or go on IR. It's Payton's M.O.
I understand why he does it, I just don't understand why people take it to heart every single time he does it even though he has proven to minimize severity of injuries time and time again.

Sure we all hope for the best but to expect his pattern to change is short sighted.
Exactly. And more than that he never stated they were all cramps. He said he thought some were. Snead I think is more than cramps per Tweet from Saints reporter who quoted SP

But agreed. I just ask people to be honest and stop lying. He didn't say that they were all cramps. But I am always hopeful they're minor injuries or cramps, because that is what we need as a team.

Yeah I remember, I think it was Butler from Dallas, and he was like we expect this, then all of a sudden he was on IR. LOL

jeanpierre 08-06-2017 11:02 AM
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Also consider that the guys were just carted off a few minutes before Payton gave his presser...

It may take a few hours to make a full assessment; I know I'd get p/o'd when my Primary Care Doc would make me wait three hours, for a fly-by of "Hey, how's been my man?" as he circled me, then departed with a "see you next time!" before I could get a word out...

I'd imagine these guys are getting much better care, just look at those new locker rooms!!!

skymike 08-06-2017 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 757615)
Also consider that the guys were just carted off a few minutes before Payton gave his presser...

It may take a few hours to make a full assessment; I know I'd get p/o'd when my Primary Care Doc would make me wait three hours, for a fly-by of "Hey, how's been my man?" as he circled me, then departed with a "see you next time!" before I could get a word out...

I'd imagine these guys are getting much better care, just look at those new locker rooms!!!
hilarious. and nails it.

jeanpierre 08-06-2017 12:23 PM
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K Major 08-06-2017 12:32 PM
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Southern Louisiana Heat and Humidity (it's hard on a body) this time of year .... muscle cramps will be a common theme.

RELAX.

spkb25 08-06-2017 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 757615)
Also consider that the guys were just carted off a few minutes before Payton gave his presser...

It may take a few hours to make a full assessment; I know I'd get p/o'd when my Primary Care Doc would make me wait three hours, for a fly-by of "Hey, how's been my man?" as he circled me, then departed with a "see you next time!" before I could get a word out...

I'd imagine these guys are getting much better care, just look at those new locker rooms!!!
What does that have to do with someone else stating they were all cramps. SP never said that, never said that at all

Yeah, the players are an investment, I bet they are getting better care lol, especially the heftier the contract lmao

spkb25 08-06-2017 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 757629)
Southern Louisiana Heat and Humidity (it's hard on a body) this time of year .... muscle cramps will be a common theme.

RELAX.
According to SP Snead was not cramps

spkb25 08-06-2017 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 757627)
Nice!

spkb25 08-06-2017 12:38 PM
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That is very good news, we need both of those guys.

jnormand 08-06-2017 12:43 PM
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Aw man, I hope Snead isn't hurt too bad. It's a contract year for the guy and I was excited to see him play and be the #2 this year! Hope he's alright.

AsylumGuido 08-06-2017 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 757608)
Exactly. And more than that he never stated they were all cramps. He said he thought some were. Snead I think is more than cramps per Tweet from Saints reporter who quoted SP

But agreed. I just ask people to be honest and stop lying. He didn't say that they were all cramps. But I am always hopeful they're minor injuries or cramps, because that is what we need as a team.

Yeah I remember, I think it was Butler from Dallas, and he was like we expect this, then all of a sudden he was on IR. LOL
Who said they were all cramps? I just repeated what was said in his press conference. He was asked about the heat affecting more players today. He said, “Maybe a little bit more. We had a few more guys cramping. Overall, I think that is what you are looking for in training camp. You are pushing them. Overall, I thought that the periods went back-and-forth. There were a few that were sluggish.”

I assumed that applied to the two players (Klein and Warford) that were carted off. I was right.

When asked about Snead Payton answered, “Nothing specific.” Nothing more, nothing less.

Where was the tweet from the Saints reporter that said something else? I haven't seen any quote except those above. They came from the transcript of his entire press conference here.

AsylumGuido 08-06-2017 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 757636)
Aw man, I hope Snead isn't hurt too bad. It's a contract year for the guy and I was excited to see him play and be the #2 this year! Hope he's alright.
Payton is appearing to let nicked players sit out longer than in past preseasons. There is no indication that it is anything serious. At no point during practice was it ever reported that he was injured at a specific time, was there?

spkb25 08-06-2017 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 757636)
Aw man, I hope Snead isn't hurt too bad. It's a contract year for the guy and I was excited to see him play and be the #2 this year! Hope he's alright.
Me too, it didn't sound serious. Never can tell though, but I think he will be fine. Probably out a day or few and back

SmashMouth 08-06-2017 04:28 PM
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jeanpierre 08-06-2017 04:41 PM
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Yeah, he's that quick...

K Major 08-06-2017 04:44 PM
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The footwork from Brandon @ :25:bugeyes: ... he looks bigger, stronger and faster this year.

jeanpierre 08-06-2017 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 757685)
The footwork from Brandon @ :25:bugeyes: ... he looks bigger, stronger and faster this year.
~12 lbs more of muscle will do that...

Crusader 08-06-2017 05:33 PM
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I like #34. he runs with som urgency!

ChrisXVI 08-06-2017 06:53 PM
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I almost forgot we had practice tonight! Updates incoming...


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