2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

WillSaints81 · 03-20-2016, 01:49 AM

And now here was the next rankings for rounds 3-4

1.Maliek Collins
2.Chris Jones
3.Sheldon Day

But then...............I found big time steals for the fifth and sixth round

Matt Ioannidis vs Notre Dame (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Willie Henry vs Michigan State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Ioanniddis plays also for Temple and looked better than Day, Collins, Jones, Clark, and Johnson imo with the reel I saw against Notre Dame.
Henry also looked decent against MSU for Michigan.

Now whoever was hyping him up I have to disagree........

D.J. Reader vs Alabama (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Just did not see anything here that makes him as good as Lawson or Dodd, who are ends.

Now the top 6 stays the same but from 7 on
7.Matt Ioanniddis
8.Willie Henry
9.Austin Johnson
10.Kenny Clark
11.Maliek Collins
12.Chris Jones
13.Sheldon Day
14.DJ Reader

Two players I left out.......Javon Hargrave from SC State because there was not enough to go on(last time I think I was on a youtube highlight reel) and Hassaan Ridgeway from Texas.

Onto LBs next.

hagan714 · 03-20-2016, 04:11 AM

Solid DT - Warm fuzzies
Jarran Reed
A'Shawn Robinson
Austin Johnson
Kenny Clark

Scares me - Crap shoot pick.
Andrew Billings
Sheldon Rankins
Vetron Butler

Interview - Where did you go?
Adolphus Washington
Chris Jones
Sheldon Day

Interesting prospect - Rotation with solid up side
Adam Gotsis
Willie Henry
Matt Ioanniddis
Javon Hargrave

50/50 - Depth upgrade/Diamond in the rough
DJ Reader
Hassaan Ridgeway
Quinton Jefferson
Jihad Ward
Anthony Zettel
Lawrance Thomas
Luther Maddy
Dean Lowery
Niles Lawrence-Stample

How low is low - Ton of coaching needed but high ceiling?
Maliek Collins

Problem child - personal favorite. Top 4 priority UDFA.
Josh Tupou

What a shame - such talented but does he get it?
Darius Latham Nasty but multi suspensions and now a DUI

Then there are UDFA to look at
Chris Mayes,
Connor Wujciak

hagan714 · 03-23-2016, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Scares me - Crap shoot pick.
Andrew Billings
Sheldon Rankins
Vetron Butler

Of the scares me list Bulter scares me the least because that would be a trade down with picks involved most likely.

Billings is starting to ware on me butttttttttttttttttttttt

K Major · 03-23-2016, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Billings is starting to ware on me butttttttttttttttttttttt

What scares you a bit on big man Billings? This guy could really move people down in Waco. I mean fork lift, white rhino type strength. To say this kid is only 21, he is already a grown man strong. Pretty light on his feet to say he is a tad over 300 lbs.

ChrisXVI · 03-20-2016, 04:03 PM

What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety?

He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.

hagan714 · 03-20-2016, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety?

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664

He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.

He is a scraper and like a few other safeties in the draft he played mostly CB last year and like them he is behind a bit on the learning curve. My three faves at FS/SS/CB in this draft are

Jalen Ramsey, FS/SS/CB, Florida State, 6005, 209 4.41
Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46
Justin Simmons SS/FS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59

Top speed is an issue at 4.60 because he needs to work on being patience. Bites on ball fakes at times. Drew can coach him up. You can put him on a TE and feel comfortable.

His all around game is about as solid as any in the draft. Excellent football IQ. Bounced around the secondary a bit too much at BC because he was that good. Not a finished product. Right now he is solid in zone and needs to work on man coverage. He is a solid tackler also. Shame BC did not turn him loose on blitzs too much. But when they did he looked pretty good.

SS/FS right now IMO.

I would be happy to see both of these guys in saints uniform. Both are tackling machines and ball hawkers.

R3 Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46
R5 Justin Simmons SS/FS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59

Davis has the skill set that could make the final years of Byrds contract kind of a mute issue. Davis is vastly under rated.
Simmons might give Kenny a run for his money in tackling skills

K Major · 03-21-2016, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety?

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664

He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.

I like what I've read on Justin. Day 3 steal? He doesn't shy away from tackling either.

hagan714 · 03-21-2016, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I like what I've read on Justin. Day 3 steal? He doesn't shy away from tackling either.

I said it last year this is the year of the safety. here is another late rounder for to look at. I like this kid also.

Juston Burris FS/SS/CB /NC STATE 6002 212
Hands 8 7/8
Arms 31 1/2
40 4.53
20 2.63
10 1.28
3 Cone 7.10
20 Shuttle 4.40
60 Shuttle 11.65
Bench 19
Vertical 36 1/2
Broad 10'02"

traits and ball skills to be a corner but lacks the balance. change of direction is a challenge so FS it is. Just look at the shuttle and cone times. Excellent in run support. Played all over the NC State secondary so he is raw for the most part. So coaching could make a CB out of the kid.

jeanpierre · 03-21-2016, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety?

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664

He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.

Simmons = Pierre Warren

He'll make the occasional interception (which is rare for the Saints) but he's not very fluid in coverage and the liabilities will probably exceed the production...

Late round safety to consider - Clemson's T. J. Green is who I'm looking as well as the Buckeye's Tyvis Powell...

If we somehow sign Nick Fairley and relieve ourselves of a compulsory selection on the defensive line; we could look to Darian Thompson, who was an out-and-out ballhawk; had dropped him earlier from my Mock after a poor Combine performance, but in the last few days it has come to light that he was once of several players that had come down with a viral bug thus affecting his performance...

hagan714 · 03-21-2016, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Simmons = Pierre Warren

Pierre is a FS and Simmons is a SS. Playing Simmons as a FS would be a huge waste of his skill set.

Simmons = KV but better coverage skill set.

03-20-2016, 01:49 AM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... And now here was the next rankings for rounds 3-4 1.Maliek Collins 2.Chris Jones 3.Sheldon Day But then...............I found big time steals for the fifth and sixth round Matt Ioannidis vs Notre Dame (2015) \| Draft Breakdown Willie Henry vs Michigan State (2015) \| Draft Breakdown Ioanniddis plays also for Temple and looked better than Day, Collins, Jones, Clark, and Johnson imo with the reel I saw against Notre Dame. Henry also looked decent against MSU for Michigan. Now whoever was hyping him up I have to disagree........ D.J. Reader vs Alabama (2015) \| Draft Breakdown Just did not see anything here that makes him as good as Lawson or Dodd, who are ends. Now the top 6 stays the same but from 7 on 7.Matt Ioanniddis 8.Willie Henry 9.Austin Johnson 10.Kenny Clark 11.Maliek Collins 12.Chris Jones 13.Sheldon Day 14.DJ Reader Two players I left out.......Javon Hargrave from SC State because there was not enough to go on(last time I think I was on a youtube highlight reel) and Hassaan Ridgeway from Texas. Onto LBs next.

03-20-2016, 04:11 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Solid DT - Warm fuzzies Jarran Reed A'Shawn Robinson Austin Johnson Kenny Clark Scares me - Crap shoot pick. Andrew Billings Sheldon Rankins Vetron Butler Interview - Where did you go? Adolphus Washington Chris Jones Sheldon Day Interesting prospect - Rotation with solid up side Adam Gotsis Willie Henry Matt Ioanniddis Javon Hargrave 50/50 - Depth upgrade/Diamond in the rough DJ Reader Hassaan Ridgeway Quinton Jefferson Jihad Ward Anthony Zettel Lawrance Thomas Luther Maddy Dean Lowery Niles Lawrence-Stample How low is low - Ton of coaching needed but high ceiling? Maliek Collins Problem child - personal favorite. Top 4 priority UDFA. Josh Tupou What a shame - such talented but does he get it? Darius Latham Nasty but multi suspensions and now a DUI Then there are UDFA to look at Chris Mayes, Connor Wujciak
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 03-20-2016 at 05:15 AM..

03-23-2016, 12:40 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by hagan714 Scares me - Crap shoot pick. Andrew Billings Sheldon Rankins Vetron Butler Of the scares me list Bulter scares me the least because that would be a trade down with picks involved most likely. Billings is starting to ware on me butttttttttttttttttttttt

03-23-2016, 02:52 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,070 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by hagan714 Billings is starting to ware on me butttttttttttttttttttttt What scares you a bit on big man Billings? This guy could really move people down in Waco. I mean fork lift, white rhino type strength. To say this kid is only 21, he is already a grown man strong. Pretty light on his feet to say he is a tad over 300 lbs.

03-20-2016, 04:03 PM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety? Twitter Twitter He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.

03-20-2016, 05:41 PM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by ChrisXVI What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety? https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688 https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664 He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut. He is a scraper and like a few other safeties in the draft he played mostly CB last year and like them he is behind a bit on the learning curve. My three faves at FS/SS/CB in this draft are Jalen Ramsey, FS/SS/CB, Florida State, 6005, 209 4.41 Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46 Justin Simmons SS/FS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59 Top speed is an issue at 4.60 because he needs to work on being patience. Bites on ball fakes at times. Drew can coach him up. You can put him on a TE and feel comfortable. His all around game is about as solid as any in the draft. Excellent football IQ. Bounced around the secondary a bit too much at BC because he was that good. Not a finished product. Right now he is solid in zone and needs to work on man coverage. He is a solid tackler also. Shame BC did not turn him loose on blitzs too much. But when they did he looked pretty good. SS/FS right now IMO. I would be happy to see both of these guys in saints uniform. Both are tackling machines and ball hawkers. R3 Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46 R5 Justin Simmons SS/FS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59 Davis has the skill set that could make the final years of Byrds contract kind of a mute issue. Davis is vastly under rated. Simmons might give Kenny a run for his money in tackling skills
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03-21-2016, 11:24 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,070 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by ChrisXVI What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety? https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688 https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664 He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut. I like what I've read on Justin. Day 3 steal? He doesn't shy away from tackling either.

03-21-2016, 11:29 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by K Major I like what I've read on Justin. Day 3 steal? He doesn't shy away from tackling either. I said it last year this is the year of the safety. here is another late rounder for to look at. I like this kid also. Juston Burris FS/SS/CB /NC STATE 6002 212 Hands 8 7/8 Arms 31 1/2 40 4.53 20 2.63 10 1.28 3 Cone 7.10 20 Shuttle 4.40 60 Shuttle 11.65 Bench 19 Vertical 36 1/2 Broad 10'02" traits and ball skills to be a corner but lacks the balance. change of direction is a challenge so FS it is. Just look at the shuttle and cone times. Excellent in run support. Played all over the NC State secondary so he is raw for the most part. So coaching could make a CB out of the kid.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

03-21-2016, 03:55 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by ChrisXVI What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety? https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688 https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664 He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut. Simmons = Pierre Warren He'll make the occasional interception (which is rare for the Saints) but he's not very fluid in coverage and the liabilities will probably exceed the production... Late round safety to consider - Clemson's T. J. Green is who I'm looking as well as the Buckeye's Tyvis Powell... If we somehow sign Nick Fairley and relieve ourselves of a compulsory selection on the defensive line; we could look to Darian Thompson, who was an out-and-out ballhawk; had dropped him earlier from my Mock after a poor Combine performance, but in the last few days it has come to light that he was once of several players that had come down with a viral bug thus affecting his performance...
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03-21-2016, 06:36 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Simmons = Pierre Warren Pierre is a FS and Simmons is a SS. Playing Simmons as a FS would be a huge waste of his skill set. Simmons = KV but better coverage skill set.

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