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K Major 02-21-2022 10:49 AM
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Velus is a SUPER SENIOR :p. He'll be 25 in May. What's his story?

Great speed but a lot of scouts see him as a special teams workhorse that you will need to "develop" at WR.

Projections - 4th/5th round by many.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945403)
Velus is a SUPER SENIOR :p. He'll be 25 in May. What's his story?

Great speed but a lot of scouts see him as a special teams workhorse that you will need to "develop" at WR.

Projections - 4th/5th round by many.
Looks like he was at Southern Cal for 4 years before transferring to Tennessee where he played for two more years. I believe the 2020 season didn't count against eligibility. He must have got a redshirt back in 2016, his first year at USC.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 11:06 AM
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AsylumGuido 02-21-2022 11:10 AM
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jeanpierre 02-21-2022 11:16 AM
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Rugby Saint II 02-21-2022 11:55 AM
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Keep it coming fellas. Thanks for sharing. I love the draft process where I learn about players. Even if we don't draft them if I see the players in the future then I'll know them better. It's a win/win.

jeanpierre 02-21-2022 04:10 PM
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jeanpierre 02-21-2022 04:31 PM
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jeanpierre 02-21-2022 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945403)
Velus is a SUPER SENIOR :p. He'll be 25 in May. What's his story?

Great speed but a lot of scouts see him as a special teams workhorse that you will need to "develop" at WR.

Projections - 4th/5th round by many.
25 yrs old AND develop?

K Major 02-21-2022 05:23 PM
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25 yrs old AND develop?
Possibly.

Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, D Baldwin come to mind.

jeanpierre 02-21-2022 07:28 PM
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jeanpierre 02-21-2022 11:57 PM
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papz 02-22-2022 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945403)
Velus is a SUPER SENIOR :p. He'll be 25 in May. What's his story?

Great speed but a lot of scouts see him as a special teams workhorse that you will need to "develop" at WR.

Projections - 4th/5th round by many.
Holy crap. I saw some blurbs of him moving up draft boards but dang, I didn't realize he's that much older than everyone else. I would have thought he went on a Mormon mission. I mean... at least he's physically developed.

I'm hanging my hat on Sam Howell as our first round pick.

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 01:27 PM
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Probably one of the better fits to the Saints offense; he'd be the first big-man RB with those skills comparable to Deuce...

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 01:39 PM
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Complememtary Back...

jeanpierre 02-22-2022 04:25 PM
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AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 04:47 PM
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AsylumGuido 02-22-2022 05:12 PM
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You gotta love kerfuffles.

turbo_dog 02-22-2022 09:43 PM
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There's some real concerns, risk there, read this scouting report - The Draft Network | DT Jordan Davis, UGA
We all remember Jonathan Sullivan, right?

turbo_dog 02-22-2022 09:48 PM
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Man I hope not, I'm not really seeing anything great on the highlight reels. Kenny Picket looks like the most NFL ready QB, but I also like Carson Strong from Nevada.

K Major 02-23-2022 08:00 AM
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Jahan Dotson - WR Penn State

Above avg ROUTE RUNNER. Hands as big as Mike T.
BLOCKS (the best from this draft class) as well as Jamar Chase.

I’d love this pick @ 18.

Again, I’d argue WR is the Saints biggest need in 2022.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945590)
Jahan Dotson - WR Penn State

Above avg ROUTE RUNNER. Hands as big as Mike T.
BLOCKS (the best from this draft class) as well as Jamar Chase.

I’d love this pick @ 18.

Again, I’d argue WR is the Saints biggest need in 2022.
You are beginning to convince me.

saintfan 02-23-2022 08:53 AM
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You are beginning to convince me.
Oh no we don't have a WR problem little speedo. The internet told you so about mid-season...:rolleyes:

jeanpierre 02-23-2022 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945590)
Jahan Dotson - WR Penn State

Above avg ROUTE RUNNER. Hands as big as Mike T.
BLOCKS (the best from this draft class) as well as Jamar Chase.

I’d love this pick @ 18.

Again, I’d argue WR is the Saints biggest need in 2022.
Gotta fix the offensive line if you're going to give the QB / RB ability to make plays...

We've got big problems at guard...

jeanpierre 02-23-2022 09:49 AM
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Draft another center? Hey, if he should fall, it'd be tough to pass up; it'd allow McCoy to move to RG and with McCoy's ability to run, Eric could be an All-Pro...

K Major 02-23-2022 10:24 AM
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Gotta fix the offensive line if you're going to give the QB / RB ability to make plays...

We've got big problems at guard...
Naw JP,

Dougie Marrone is in the building now to get that O line steered in the right direction. This is year #3 for RUIZ. Needs to perform up to his draft status or get replaced. You can find big uglies in the mid-rounds as well as in Free Agency.

Jamarr Chase, DeVonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle (10/92 & a TD vs Saints in 2021), Kadarius Toney (6/78 yards vs Saints in 2021) & Rashad Bateman (had more yards than our Trequan Smith in 2021). << All former 1st rounders with IMPACT & were Day 1 starters last season.

MT is a question (ankle) mark & we don't know what he will do after a year layoff. AK is gonna sit for at least 6 games, maybe even more. TE position is SPOTTY. We need PLAYMAKERS.

I'm pushing all of my chips to the center of the table & going WR @ #18.

jeanpierre 02-23-2022 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945608)
Naw JP,

Dougie Marrone is in the building now to get that O line steered in the right direction. This is year #3 for RUIZ. Needs to perform up to his draft status or get replaced. You can find big uglies in the mid-rounds as well as in Free Agency.

Jamarr Chase, DeVonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle (10/92 & a TD vs Saints in 2021), Kadarius Toney (6/78 yards vs Saints in 2021) & Rashad Bateman (had more yards than our Trequan Smith in 2021). << All former 1st rounders with IMPACT & were Day 1 starters last season.

MT is a question (ankle) mark & we don't know what he will do after a year layoff. AK is gonna sit for at least 6 games, maybe even more. TE position is SPOTTY. We need PLAYMAKERS.

I'm pushing all of my chips to the center of the table & going WR @ #18.

Just throwing it out there if it happens...

With regards to WR, historically, we've had better return on Day 2 WRs than in the first round...

K Major 02-23-2022 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945612)
Just throwing it out there if it happens...

With regards to WR, historically, we've had better return on Day 2 WRs than in the first round...
I'll leave it here ... it's absolutely MIND BOGGLING that outside of the 3rd round TREQUAN SMITH :rolleyes: pick back in 2018, the WR position has been neglected the past 5 drafts.

You'd be hard pressed to find any team in the NFL that has only drafted 1 WR in the early rounds of straight 5 years of drafts.

With MT out all season in 2021, the WR position finally caught up with us.

saintfan 02-23-2022 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945616)
I'll leave it here ... it's absolutely MIND BOGGLING that outside of the 3rd round TREQUAN SMITH :rolleyes: pick back in 2018, the WR position has been neglected the past 5 drafts.

You'd be hard pressed to find any team in the NFL that has only drafted 1 WR in the early rounds of straight 5 years of drafts.

With MT out all season in 2021, the WR position finally caught up with us.
Drew Brees was just that good I guess.

K Major 02-23-2022 01:26 PM
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Drew Brees was just that good I guess.
First ballot good :bng:

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 02:02 PM
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Interesting. Saints trade up more than anyone and never trade down.

saintfan 02-23-2022 02:18 PM
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Interesting. Saints trade up more than anyone and never trade down.

https://twitter.com/arjunmenon100/st...59364429201415
Welcome to the meeting Mr helper. You may be the only person here who wasn't aware. You sure aren't self-aware, so... :rolleyes:

saintsfan1976 02-23-2022 02:25 PM
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What's most interesting is the chasm between two franchises that have remained playoff caliber for so long - Pats and Saints.

Bill's teams have been more successful obviously with Brady at the helm but in a very weak division.

AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 945633)
What's most interesting is the chasm between two franchises that have remained playoff caliber for so long - Pats and Saints.

Bill's teams have been more successful obviously with Brady at the helm but in a very weak division.
Bill has made what appears to be 24 trades up and 14 trades down. 38 total. Loomis 15 trades up and zero down. Big difference in the trading down philosophy.

halloween 65 02-23-2022 02:53 PM
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Bill has made what appears to be 24 trades up and 14 trades down. 38 total. Loomis 15 trades up and zero down. Big difference in the trading down philosophy.
And don't forget BB also trades good players for draft pick, we don't, huge difference. And also when BB trades up he has ammunition in his back pocket, where we don't, huge difference also. No comparison in the way BB does things compared to Loomy, none at all.

jeanpierre 02-23-2022 03:24 PM
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K Major 02-23-2022 04:06 PM
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And don't forget BB also trades good players for draft pick, we don't, huge difference. And also when BB trades up he has ammunition in his back pocket, where we don't, huge difference also. No comparison in the way BB does things compared to Loomy, none at all.
Precisely.

K Major 02-23-2022 04:13 PM
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Jalen Pitre - CB (3rd round)
Baylor Bears

K Major 02-23-2022 06:55 PM
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Trey McBride - TE (2-3 round)
Colorado St


jeanpierre 02-24-2022 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 945643)
And don't forget BB also trades good players for draft pick, we don't, huge difference. And also when BB trades up he has ammunition in his back pocket, where we don't, huge difference also. No comparison in the way BB does things compared to Loomy, none at all.
Also, one issue, hurdle Saints have that most teams don't is getting players to come to New Orleans - there's not as much upscale options for them to spend their coin...


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