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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; never damage? crap. The odds of returning any where near 100% is a crap shoot. Round 2? As if the gods have not been nice to Darron Lee as it is already. Both top LB are hurt his stock sky ...

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Old 02-27-2016, 04:51 AM   #361
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never damage? crap. The odds of returning any where near 100% is a crap shoot. Round 2?

As if the gods have not been nice to Darron Lee as it is already. Both top LB are hurt his stock sky rockets. Now Smith has worse case possible? Damn the kid must be living right. The gods are on his side.

The football gods have a sick sense of humor and could be setting this up for a big laugh when all is said and done.

Lee is a solid prospect. Worth a round 1/2 grade without a doubt.

Out of desperation for a WLB would take Lee at 12?

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Old 02-27-2016, 05:40 AM   #362
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C.J. Prosise RB/WR/KR Notre Dame 6004 220
Hands 8 1/2
Arms 32 1/8
40 4.48
10 1.57
Vertical 35.5
Broad 121.0

Answered the huge question I had about him 40 4.48 but the dam hands issue at 8 1/2 comes up. But I still like the kid. Slot WR learning RB so getting hit was never an issue. Plus a return guy to boot. A mid round option for sure. His pass protection is a work in progress but he is more than willing to stick his hat in there so..fill 2 maybe 3 roster spots with one pick and enough upside at all three to give you a pretty good case of the warm fuzzies.

This is the type of player that can clear areas in the secondary for WRs and exploit areas WRs have cleared. He knows how to read and adjust pass routes at the second level probably better than any of the backs in the draft. Screens are a work in progress. That is Ezekiel Elliott and Kenneth Dixons specialty. Like Elliott, you are not going to arm tackle or simply drag him down. Plus was recruited as a safety out of high school. He has to learn not to deliver the blow every time he gets tackled. I think that is the left over mind set of being a safety lol. not a bad trait to have when manged properly.

I have seen David Johnson comparisons but I am not going there. David is not the receiver CJ is and CJ is not the runner David is. Think another ND guy, Theo Riddick Lions. Just a bit taller and a good bit faster.

I liken him to Pierre Thomas in running style. He has that short and quick jump cut skill set inside the tackles that can not be taught. Quick cutting decisive runner.

SP loves chess piece potential and CJ could become Drews 2nd, 3rd, or 4th option on any given play that can burn you. A player teams must account for whenever he is on the field. The saints offense has been missing this kind of effect on defense for a few years now.

This would be a mid round selection (3/4) that would see the field early and often. Plus if the Spiller experiment continues to fail, he could be his replacement in 2017. Out with one CJ in with another and save about 2 million in cap space too boot.

I think I found my 4th round pick maybe 3rd? Kenyan Drake is still in the mix. 4.44 forty but I like the slot WR skill set and mentality CJ would bring to the position.


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Old 02-27-2016, 02:06 PM   #363
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Josh Doctson WR

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I think Doctson is as good as Treadwell and possibly the better Pro prospect.
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C.J. Prosise jack of all trades, master of none fits so perfect in Payton's offense. Him or Lasco (Cal) seem like the prototype 3rd down back in this draft.

IMO I hope they don't go WR or RB until round 4
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Old 02-27-2016, 05:45 PM   #366
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
I don't see Myles Jack getting past Dallas @ #4.
Not sure about that...

They have pressing needs in the secondary, and then, of course, there's the Romo question...

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Guess size doesn't matter...

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Old 02-27-2016, 07:47 PM   #368
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The size of the hand is an issue in bad weather and when players are trying to strip the ball.

then there is this

Drew Brees, who has very big mitts, fumbles at almost the same rate as Tony Romo. Russell Wilson, another guy with very big hands (10 1/4), has fumbled at a much higher rate than Alex Smith (9 3/8 inches) has over the past three seasons.

Why a quarterback's hand size matters to the NFL | FOX Sports

so you decide I guess. media drama for ratings in my book for the most part. It is valid but only to a point.

I look at Conner Cook and hand size can be an issue in bad weather but I also think the fact he is a Michigan kid he is use to it. Cook in Cleveland in December on the shores of lake Erie makes more sense to me than any QB in the draft. Chicago or any of the northern divisions makes sense to me.

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I don't get the hype with this years QB class, any QB taken in round one is a reach
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Old 02-27-2016, 08:28 PM   #370
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I don't get the hype with this years QB class, any QB taken in round one is a reach
I see no more than 3 QB taken in the first and even then I would be surprised. whoever passes in the top ten for a QB should be sitting good a top round 2 for the scrapes. This looks to be a repeat of the 2014 draft all over again.

Blake Bortles - Paxton Lynch
Teddy Bridgewater - Jared Goff
Johnny Manziel - Their is only one Johny be drunk too football.
Derrick Carr - Conner Cook
Jimmy Garoppolo - Carson Wentz

So actually seeing two QBs going in round 1 is very likely

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