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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Betting we'll eventually see defensive linemen in the second through fourth rounds have more success than those taken in the first ... So true ... I've always thought the "real football players" are usually taken in ...
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So true ... I've always thought the "real football players" are usually taken in those said rounds. You never know what you are getting with a 1st rd selection.
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Chris Jones and Robert nkemdiche. It's conceivable to grab both. Either would be a huge boost to DL for several years.
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Tellin' y'all Dodd is the Clemson DE to take, not Lawson; and it's not even close...
Dodd has got size (6' 5". 280 lbs) and versatility to play a 3-4 DE, 4-3 DE or DT... If we moved back in the first round (#20-25), gaining a 2R pick and getting Dodd... ..., wow, now that would be an impressive draft day move...that would be a Jedi move... |
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Shaq Lawson - Of all the players in the draft he is the number 1 player that impressed me with his off season beauty show. He showed more flexibility with his LB drill than i thought possible. He actually surprise the heck out me posting 4.62 forty. I was expecting more of a 4.80. He is back on my board at 12 because of this and the fact he is one of the best run DE in the draft. Counter moves in pass rush is his thing and that is why I see a lot of Cam in his game. Is he a target at 12? I am not there yet. He is a solid player to settle on IMO. Lawson is a WDE/34OLB.
Dodd at 12 worries me for one reason. His production did not start till DJ Reader returned to the field. That is why DJ is on my radar. To me that says more about DJ and the impact he had on the defense than the stats Dodd was racking up after DJ return. That is also why I look at Lawson in a more favorable light. Teams did not run at Lawson. They rather run at Dodd. Not saying they had much success at either. But when they did pick their poison it was Dodd. The return of Reader changed everything for Dodd. Gotta love this time of the year. one scout says neither can rush the QB. Another says they have the athleticism to be a LB. which is it? That is why I LOL at times. Over scouting, nick picking and second guessing I will be ok if neither ends up saint. If one did I am ok with it also and will sit back and watch things develop. Though the Dodd pick would come with a a bit of a sigh. I want a shot at DJ. At the senior bowl he measured in at 6-foot-3, 340 pounds with a 78-inch wingspan and destroyed everything in front of him. That was his game weight at Clemson 340. Dropping 20 pounds or so for the combine did little to speed him up. Put the weight back on and it will do little to slow him down. Scary part is he is far from a finished product IMO. I think his ceiling is higher than people give him credit for. He is a NT and that is it. Just like Starr is for the panthers. He could end up being a huge steal so late in the draft. A NT you must account for. Now that is something the saints have not had in a long time. Foot Note North of the border, defensive lineman David Onyemata, who looked tremendous in spots during East-West Shrine week, performed for 17 NFL teams at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg. Onyemata completed 33 reps on the bench (arm length 33 1/4 inches), posted a vertical jump of 33 inches, a broad jump of 9-11 and ran the 40 in 5.06 seconds at 300 pounds. The New Orleans Saints and Philadelphia Eagles put Onyemata through defensive line drills. |
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Would love to see either one at 12 or hell trade our 1st next year and get them both:
Jarran Reed - DT, Alabama Reed was a two-year starter for the Crimson Tide. He lines up at both defensive end and nose tackle in the 'Bama 3-4 defense. This is a dominant run defender. He easily locks out blockers over his nose and he can also hold his ground vs. the double team. He is always on his feet and he will also flash the quickness to penetrate and play on the other side of the line of scrimmage. He has tremendous range because of his quickness and effort. As a pass rusher, he can push the pocket with his power and he flashes a quick arm-over as well. Overall, Reed is impossible to move in the run game and I believe he has upside as an interior pass rusher. A'Shawn Robinson - DT, Alabama Robinson was a two-year starter at defensive tackle for the Crimson Tide. He has outstanding height, bulk and athleticism for the position. Against the run, he uses his length and strength to stack blockers and holds the point of attack. His pad level is too high at times but he's still strong enough to resist angle blocks and double teams. His effort is solid. As a pass rusher, he flashes an explosive first step as well as an effective slap/swim move. Overall, Robinson has all of the tools to be a dominant three-down presence but he hasn't put it all together yet. His best football is ahead of him. |
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I like Reed more, but wouldn't be upset with either pick. They both have areas to improve upon, but so does every other prospect in the draft.
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