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jeanpierre 03-24-2020 06:15 PM
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jeanpierre 03-24-2020 06:15 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-24-2020 06:43 PM
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Mel Kipers Mock Draft 3.0 has the Saints selecting...

24. New Orleans Saints- Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma
The Saints perpetually have salary-cap issues, but they have done a nice job of filling holes this offseason, adding safety Malcolm Jenkins and wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders while bringing back guard Andrus Peat and defensive tackle David Onyemata. This is a roster that should compete for a Super Bowl in 2020. Off-ball linebacker, though, is a position where New Orleans could get some help, and neither of my top inside linebackers have come off the board yet. Murray, a stellar athlete and tackling machine, is a good value pick here.

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 08:37 PM
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We've never had a linebacker pan out for us in the first round - just sayin'...

The fact that Kiper mocked him to us gives me relief...

Really, really want to either trade back for two 2's, or take the best CB, DE, WR available...

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 08:41 PM
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If he falls to us at No. 24, we've got to take him...

jeanpierre 03-24-2020 08:54 PM
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halloween 65 03-24-2020 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 883075)
We've never had a linebacker pan out for us in the first round - just sayin'...

The fact that Kiper mocked him to us gives me relief...

Really, really want to either trade back for two 2's, or take the best CB, DE, WR available...
I would love to slide back and get 2 2's also.
2nd Shane Lemieux ( solid insurance) G Oregon
2nd Cam Akers RB Florida State
3rd Thaddius Moss TE LSU (I know LSU)
4th Reggie Robinson CB Tulsa
5th Darrion Daniels NT Nebraska
6th James Proche WR SMU (Slot reciever)

K Major 03-25-2020 07:22 AM
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TYLER BIADASZ - G Wisconsin

If you ever watched some of those long runs by Jonanthan Taylor ... a lot of those running lanes were created by Tyler.

jeanpierre 03-25-2020 08:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883106)
TYLER BIADASZ - G Wisconsin

If you ever watched some of those long runs by Jonanthan Taylor ... a lot of those running lanes were created by Tyler.
So you'd like him as a RG? Reminder some were gigging me a while back when I suggest moving McCoy to replace Peat or Warford as Erik's bigger and was being scouted as a Guard and drafting Biadasz to anchor...

K Major 03-25-2020 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 883116)
So you'd like him as a RG? Reminder some were gigging me a while back when I suggest moving McCoy to replace Peat or Warford as Erik's bigger and was being scouted as a Guard and drafting Biadasz to anchor...
Something tells me that Warford will NOT be extended. Probably won't be resigned in New Orleans.

Then again, I thought Andrus Peat would be a ghost in New Orleans once Free Agency kicked off.

jeanpierre 03-25-2020 12:10 PM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2020 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883118)
Something tells me that Warford will NOT be extended. Probably won't be resigned in New Orleans.

Then again, I thought Andrus Peat would be a ghost in New Orleans once Free Agency kicked off.
Once Warford got that Big Mo', it was downhill from there; need to draft young corn-fed, rip yer head off types from Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska; cornerstone-type linemen you sign for ten-twelve years...

They may not be dancing bears, but they'll get you three yards and they'll neutralize pass rushers...

ChrisXVI 03-26-2020 08:23 PM
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Something important to consider for RBs:

jeanpierre 03-27-2020 04:06 AM
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Goodell goes #CCP and says there will be no dissension heard in public...

jeanpierre 03-27-2020 06:46 AM
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JP's Trending Up List of 2020 NFL Draft Prospects

No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) WR Jalen Reagor, TCU; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 206 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) CB Trevon Diggs, Bama; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) RB Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin; Height: 5' 10", Weight: 226 lbs.
No. 24 (R1, 24) WR Justin Jefferson, LSU; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 202 lbs.

No. 56 (R2, 24) Traded to Miami Dolphins (C Erik McCoy)
No. 56 (R2, 24) CB Cameron Dantzler, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) TE Cole Kmet, Notre Dame; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) LB Patrick Queen, LSU; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 229 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) WR Bryan Edwards, South Carolina; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 212 lbs.
No. 56 (R2, 24) RB Clyde Edwards, LSU; Height: 5' 7", Weight: 207 lbs.

No. 88 (R3, 24) WR Antonio Gibson, Memphis; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 228 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) LB Logan Wilson, Wyoming; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 241 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) RT Ben Bartch, St. Johns (MN); Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) RB A.J. Dillon, Boston College; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 88 (R3, 24) CB Darnay Holmes, UCLA; Height: 5' 10", Weight: 195 lbs.

No. 130 (R4, 24) DE Kenny Willekes, Michigan St; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) WR Devin Duvernay, Texas; Height: 5' 10", Weight: 200 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 30) QB James Morgan, Florida Intl; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 229 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) CB A.J. Green, Oklahoma St ; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 202 lbs.
No. 130 (R4, 24) DE James Lynch, Baylor; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 289 lbs.

No. 169 (R5, 24) TE Colby Parkinson, Stanford; Height: 6' 7", Weight: 252 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) DT McTelvin Agim, Arkansas; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) LB Justin Strnad, Wake Forest; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 238 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) WR Lynn Bowden, Kentucky; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 204 lbs.
No. 169 (R5, 24) FS Brandon Jones, Texas; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 198 lbs.

No. 203 (R6, 24) DT Benito Jones, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) WR Stephen Guidry, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 201 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) DT Davon Hamilton, Ohio St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) LB Michael Divinity, LSU; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 242 lbs.
No. 203 (R6, 24) RB Deejay Dallas, School; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 217 lbs.

No. 238 (R7, 24) Traded to NY Giants (CB Eli Apple)
No. 238 (R7, 24) RG Jon Runyan, Michigan; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 306 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) LB Casey Toohill, School; Stanford: 6' 4", Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) DT Rashard Lawrence, LSU; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 308 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) LG Logan Stenberg, Kentucky; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 317 lbs.
No. 238 (R7, 24) WR Kendrick Rogers, Texas A&M; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 208 lbs.

K Major 03-27-2020 07:27 AM
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No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs.


Saw a recent "mock" with AJ falling to the 2nd ...late 2nd round.

jeanpierre 03-27-2020 07:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883313)
No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs.


Saw a recent "mock" with AJ falling to the 2nd ...late 2nd round.
He tested poorly at the Combine Underwear Olympics - you gotta go to the tape and, to be honest, I'd be surprised if he fell to us...

This is Cam Jordan 2.0; he's not a speedy, edge guy; more a quick, over-powering, strong, hand-fightin' wrestler type who's gonna win a lot of battles...

Look at the tape and the production, it's there; and the flaws in his game can be fixed with coaching - and we've got that guy too...

K Major 03-27-2020 07:48 AM
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No matter who the pick is at #24 ... I think we are in very good position to get a solid player for many years to come. Maybe even ELITE.

See Cameron Jordan.

st thomas 03-27-2020 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 883314)
He tested poorly at the Combine Underwear Olympics - you gotta go to the tape and, to be honest, I'd be surprised if he fell to us...

This is Cam Jordan 2.0; he's not a speedy, edge guy; more a quick, over-powering, strong, hand-fightin' wrestler type who's gonna win a lot of battles...

Look at the tape and the production, it's there; and the flaws in his game can be fixed with coaching - and we've got that guy too...

Hes not going to be there hes a beast Im like u guys look at the tape Dog mentality.


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st thomas 03-27-2020 08:01 AM
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What would it cost us to get Simmons . Or even Patrick queen
Guard- not seeing even a project left at 24
Lb- possibly pat queen there - nope
Wr- theres plenty to go around


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K Major 03-27-2020 08:22 AM
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Zach Baun - LB Wisconsin


K Major 03-27-2020 08:49 AM
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Here is my "hot take" on our pick @ 24 ....

Saints will trade up and get a QB :p.

Jalen Hurts
Jordan Love
Justin Hebert

K Major 03-27-2020 09:17 AM
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K'Lavon Chaisson - LB LSU

Just hope he stays OUT of the NFC South.

jeanpierre 03-27-2020 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883321)
Zach Baun - LB Wisconsin
Love his game, but haven't we been to this rodeo with Linebackers staying healthy?

ChrisXVI 03-27-2020 10:31 AM
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Lets talk some perfect team-prospect matches...

Panthers- LB/S Isaiah Simmons: Is he a LB or safety? Doesnt matter because the Panthers need both!

Falcons- LB Patrick Queen: The Falcons love undersized, fast defensive players and they have a hole at weak side LB. Pairing Deion Jones with Queen would be amazing for them, unfortunately.

Raiders- WR Jerry Jeudy, LB Kenneth Murray: The Raiders have two first-round picks and this would be ideal. High-character players seem to be Mayocks preference. Murray would slot right in at weak side LB with Corey Littleton in the middle and Nick Kwiatkoski on the strong side for a completely rebuilt LB corp.

Giants- RT Jedrick Wills: No-brainer.

Broncos- WR Henry Ruggs: Playing opposite Courtland Sutton with Drew Locks big arm... man that would be fun to watch.

Jaguars- CJ Henderson: Stays local for a team with a dire need at the position.

Patriots- Edge AJ Epenesa: Has the versatility to play the 3, 5 or 7 technique.

Ravens- LB Zack Baun: He can rush the passer, drop into coverage, or even play ILB if necessary.

st thomas 03-27-2020 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883323)
Here is my "hot take" on our pick @ 24 ....

Saints will trade up and get a QB :p.

Jalen Hurts
Jordan Love
Justin Hebert

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st thomas 03-27-2020 10:33 AM
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We are a lb away from a Super Bowl K Im not counting on Fabio. His history goes back to college


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K Major 03-27-2020 10:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 883330)
Lets talk some perfect team-prospect matches...

Panthers- LB/S Isaiah Simmons: Is he a LB or safety? Doesnt matter because the Panthers need both!

Falcons- LB Patrick Queen: The Falcons love undersized, fast defensive players and they have a hole at weak side LB. Pairing Deion Jones with Queen would be amazing for them, unfortunately.

Raiders- WR Jerry Jeudy, LB Kenneth Murray: The Raiders have two first-round picks and this would be ideal. High-character players seem to be Mayocks preference. Murray would slot right in at weak side LB with Corey Littleton in the middle and Nick Kwiatkoski on the strong side for a completely rebuilt LB corp.

Giants- RT Jedrick Wills: No-brainer.

Broncos- WR Henry Ruggs: Playing opposite Courtland Sutton with Drew Locks big arm... man that would be fun to watch.

Jaguars- CJ Henderson: Stays local for a team with a dire need at the position.

Patriots- Edge AJ Epenesa: Has the versatility to play the 3, 5 or 7 technique.

Ravens- LB Zack Baun: He can rush the passer, drop into coverage, or even play ILB if necessary.

I hope most of these players stay OUT of the NFC SOUTH.

Atl, Carolina and the Bucs aren't going to suck forever.

K Major 03-27-2020 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 883326)
Love his game, but haven't we been to this rodeo with Linebackers staying healthy?
This guy checks a lot of boxes for me though. Sideline to sideline assassin, his first move is instant, sound technique & high IQ. Demario needs a young dawg alongside to finish off these RB and TE's. We still have a hole to fill at LB with AJ Klein departure. Could be a Day 2 or 3 gem.

"No risk it, no biscuit" - Bruce A.

jeanpierre 03-27-2020 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883324)
K'Lavon Chaisson - LB LSU

Just hope he stays OUT of the NFC South.
Well, ATL cut its ties with Vic Beasley, and his value is a mid-first round pick...

saintsfan1976 03-27-2020 02:55 PM
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Chaissons tape is ridiculous. Controlled chaos.

Imagine what DA could do with him!

ChrisXVI 03-27-2020 05:09 PM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2020 09:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883106)
TYLER BIADASZ - G Wisconsin

If you ever watched some of those long runs by Jonanthan Taylor ... a lot of those running lanes were created by Tyler.
Tyler Bad*ss definitely gets up the field quick on those combo blocks...

voodooido 03-28-2020 03:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 883313)
No. 24 (R1, 24) DE A.J. Epenesa, Iowa; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 275 lbs.


Saw a recent "mock" with AJ falling to the 2nd ...late 2nd round.
If he falls to us at 24 I would be extremely happy. Id also love the LB from Oklahoma, Murray. Both I believe would start right away

jeanpierre 03-28-2020 12:46 PM
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If anything, watching the tape more will have a positive effect as more teams will find...

jeanpierre 03-28-2020 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 883368)
Chaissons tape is ridiculous. Controlled chaos.

Imagine what DA could do with him!
And he was only one year removed from season-ending knee surgery the year before!

:shock:

Think Major is correct - ATL let Vic Beasley walk, and will replace him with K'lavon Chaisson - at least that's his firewall in the draft...

ChrisXVI 03-28-2020 02:45 PM
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I think the Falcons might trade up to 3 for Okudah.

jeanpierre 03-28-2020 03:32 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-28-2020 04:55 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-28-2020 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 883466)
https://twitter.com/tompelissero/sta...17666633138176

If anything, watching the tape more will have a positive effect as more teams will find...
One downside will be that itll kill the draft stock of a player like Laviska Shenault who has injury issues and had a limited combine that gave us more questions than answers.


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