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jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:20 PM

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jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:21 PM

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My favorites in this group or Joe Burreaux, Kristian Fulton, and Clyde Edwards...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:22 PM

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Like DT Benito Jones...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:27 PM

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Really like Simmons, a top 5 talent, but the rest of this group I'd not sold on spending a Day 1 pick...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:29 PM

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Really, really liking CB Cameron Dantzler...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:30 PM

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McKinney, Diggs, and Carter would be great fits on the Saints roster...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:31 PM

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Really like guys like Kenny Willekes that travel the hard road, iron sharpen iron...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:33 PM

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Liking LG Ben Bredeson on Day 2 and LT Jon Runyan on Day 3...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:35 PM

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Looking to forward to see Laviska's workout numbers...


jeanpierre 02-16-2020 08:38 PM

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Justin Herbert is gone before we pick, watch for Day 2, Day 3 Offensive Line targets - Shane Lemieux, Jake Hansen, Calvin Throckmorton...



neugey 02-16-2020 11:05 PM

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Given our history, better keep an eye on these 11 ...

Cornerback Damon Arnette, running back J.K. Dobbins, safety Jordan Fuller, defensive lineman DaVon Hamilton, linebacker Malik Harrison, wide receiver K.J. Hill, offensive lineman Jonah Jackson, wide receiver Austin Mack, cornerback Jeff Okudah, wide receiver Benjimin Victor and defensive lineman Chase Young.

Dobbins excites me the most.

jeanpierre 02-17-2020 10:50 AM

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K Major 02-17-2020 11:13 AM

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^^^^ Good coaching & great kids.

Travis Minor, Warrick Dunn, Kevin Franklin (changed to CB @ LSU), Guice & now Edwards-Helaire .. all former Bears.

When all of these kids leave Catholic High School - BR (I'm a proud alum), they all come back to mentor the next generation. Really no surprise that they continue to churn out great backs year after year.

I think Helaire can have a lot of success at the next level.

jeanpierre 02-17-2020 11:27 AM

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Wonder if there's any legitimacy to trading Kamara?

K Major 02-17-2020 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 880090)
Wonder if there's any legitimacy to trading Kamara?

There could be but you just never know …

I didn't believe the Saints would trade Jimmy Graham either.

ChrisXVI 02-17-2020 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 880090)
Wonder if there's any legitimacy to trading Kamara?

That’s a Payton guy... I can’t see it happening. I would understand it, but Payton thinks he’s his Marshall Faulk.

K Major 02-17-2020 03:44 PM

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Jordan Elliot - DT Missou
Great size … 6'4, 315 and has good technique.

David O could leave in Free Agency, Rankins has yet to remain healthy so …


AsylumGuido 02-17-2020 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880091)
There could be but you just never know …

I didn't believe the Saints would trade Jimmy Graham either.

They didn't want to, but that was the only way they could get the deal done. They wanted to trade Kenny Stills instead if I remember correctly, but the Seahawks insisted upon Graham.

K Major 02-17-2020 08:40 PM

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Amik Roberton - CB LA Tech

Scrappy, nose for the football and does not shy away from tackling. Starting around 1:58, notice how he wraps up. Textbook form 101 tackling. If he attended LSU, he'd be talked about as a potential 1st rounder. Awareness and ball skills. This is something you either have or you don't. He's the real deal.

I hope the Saints coaches brings the house to La Tech's Pro Day. Bulldogs mascot name fits here. He's all dawg.


K Major 02-18-2020 11:35 AM

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Adrian Killins - RB UCF

Big play ability on any given carry. Explosive .. "killer" :p 6th gear.


K Major 02-18-2020 11:56 AM

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Adam Trautman - TE Dayton

6'6 with the ability to develop. Could be a good, mid round prospect.

Jared Cook is older and his contract is up after the 2020 season.


RaginCajun83 02-18-2020 12:46 PM

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Do you think Brees returning changes their draft strategy into which prospects they might look at? If so, who do you think?

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 880169)
Do you think Brees returning changes their draft strategy into which prospects they might look at? If so, who do you think?

I doubt it changes anything as far as draft planning. They were probably more confident in his returning than most of us and most of us were pretty confident.

K Major 02-18-2020 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 880169)
Do you think Brees returning changes their draft strategy into which prospects they might look at? If so, who do you think?

I don't believe the draft "strategy" changes at all with Brees returning.

Saints continue to draft the BPA, regardless of position.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 02:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880177)
I don't believe the draft "strategy" changes at all with Brees returning.

Saints continue to draft the BPA, regardless of position.

As they should. If that BPA lines up with a need, so much the better, but I don't agree with going into a draft looking to merely fill needs.

K Major 02-18-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 880187)
As they should. If that BPA lines up with a need, so much the better, but I don't agree with going into a draft looking to merely fill needs.

The Saints will address needs in Free Agency as they usually do.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880189)
The Saints will address needs in Free Agency as they usually do.

Before AND after the draft.

dizzle88 02-18-2020 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 880187)
As they should. If that BPA lines up with a need, so much the better, but I don't agree with going into a draft looking to merely fill needs.

Unfortunately, that's what's left us with no one to properly compliment Michael Thomas. WR has been a need for years and every season seems to get ignored.

ChrisXVI 02-18-2020 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880177)
I don't believe the draft "strategy" changes at all with Brees returning.

Saints continue to draft the BPA, regardless of position.

I don’t think we actually do draft BPA... not in the early rounds at least. Seems like we’re more likely to trade up for a need.

AsylumGuido 02-18-2020 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 880196)
Unfortunately, that's what's left us with no one to properly compliment Michael Thomas. WR has been a need for years and every season seems to get ignored.

I honestly believe they believed what they had was sufficient. Loomis even said something along those lines at the Super Bowl, but his forte is finance, not player evaluation. Hopefully they now realize the need for an impact WR2.

ChrisXVI 02-18-2020 05:02 PM

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A SIT DOWN CONVERSATION WITH CAMERON DANTZLER

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...raft-interview

Q: When did the NFL become a reality?

D: I would say my junior year of high school. Watching the NFL, it's something that I've always wanted. My dad used to always get excited watching the New Orleans Saints play and hopefully, one day, he'll be excited to see me play on that level on TV. I also can take care of my family by doing something that I love to do.


A little foreshadowing maybe??

K Major 02-18-2020 06:12 PM

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Michael Ojemudia - CB IOWA

High IQ player, reacts and plays the ball. Good tackler in space too.


K Major 02-18-2020 06:25 PM

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KJ Hill Jr. - WR "Thee" Ohio State

Instead of signing an UDFA WR, why not take a late round flyer on this kid? He is fluid in his run style, can catch a lot of the underneath stuff.

Lastly he's caught passes from different types of QB's at OSU. Cardelle, Haskins & most recently Justin Fields. Because of the school, I'm sure the Saints brass with give him multiple "looks" pre draft.


jeanpierre 02-18-2020 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 880106)
They didn't want to, but that was the only way they could get the deal done. They wanted to trade Kenny Stills instead if I remember correctly, but the Seahawks insisted upon Graham.

Both were traded. Saints didn't want to commit that much cap space to TE, Graham had lobbied successfully that he was also a WR if I remember correctly...

Remember hearing whispers that the Saints were most unhappy with Jimmy airing things out on social media, and likely agent leaks to the media...

jeanpierre 02-18-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 880212)
Michael Ojemudia - CB IOWA

High IQ player, reacts and plays the ball. Good tackler in space too.

Michael Ojemudia || Iowa Hawkeyes Defensive Back || 2019 Highlights - YouTube

Gotta be honest, he looks more like a safety...

K Major 02-18-2020 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 880219)
Gotta be honest, he looks more like a safety...

He really does.

jeanpierre 02-19-2020 06:20 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-19-2020 07:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 880218)
Both were traded. Saints didn't want to commit that much cap space to TE, Graham had lobbied successfully that he was also a WR if I remember correctly...

Remember hearing whispers that the Saints were most unhappy with Jimmy airing things out on social media, and likely agent leaks to the media...

Yes, Stills was eventually traded, but he was part of the offer to pick up Unger. It was the Seahawks who countered with including Graham instead. I can't remember the exact source, but I remember reading or hearing about that exchange. It may have been John Clayton who practically lives in the Seattle camp.

As for the Graham as WR affair, that was orchestrated by the NFLPA to challenge the designations within the Franchise Tag. It was their lawyers fighting the fight. The PA knew the definition of player positions was getting muddied. The line between an outside LB and a DE is disappearing with teams using different packages on a play by play basis, yet the tag level differs by $2M. TE's are leading teams in receptions, etc, at $5M per year less than WR's on the tag. The PA lost that appeal and his tag was designated as a TE. The Saints and Graham worked out a new deal shortly thereafter.

RaginCajun83 02-19-2020 11:09 AM

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whats your guys thoughts on Kenneth Murray LB from Oklahoma?


K Major 02-19-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 880256)
whats your guys thoughts on Kenneth Murray LB from Oklahoma?

https://youtu.be/htCtG9zip1Y

Stud.

Sideline to sideline guy and tackles well. Not sure if you remember in the LSU (probably his worst performance) game, he got injured trying to chase Burrow on a roll out.

The concerns (very few) is that he does not shed away from defenders. Something that will be equally hard at the next level. Can become a little impatient in coverage. Side note - there was this one particular scout who compares him to Stephone Anthony :rolleyes:. The pro scout name escapes me at the moment.

** FWIW, a lot of teams "worst performances" was against LSU. That was a juggernaut offense. No shame for Murray there.

IMO he's gone by pick 15.


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