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papz 01-11-2022 07:37 AM
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Move Peat to LT.
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AsylumGuido 01-11-2022 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 941487)
QB in the 1st round? You think the Ian Book era is over? I doubt this Pickett guy is anymore NFL ready than Book. Can the Saint have two project QB's on the roster at once? I'm not against drafting a QB every year as long as you don't have the absolute answer on the roster. Nine out of ten QB's that get signed out of college never become a factor in the NFL.

AsylumGuido 01-11-2022 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 941572)
-Let Armstead go. Move Peat to LT. Throckmorton stays at LG. Potential and cheap. Draft a LT .
-Let Williams walk. He owns the two worst attempts at tackling I've seen in my life. Just not worth the money. PJ takes his spot. Cheaper and a better tackler. Find an UDFA to compete.
-Try to sign Harris to a cheap deal. Don't overpay. Lovethe skills. His size and decision making concerns me.
If you honestly watched every snap Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or Steve Atwater played you'd likely see a couple, or more, egregious missed tackles apiece.

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K Major 01-11-2022 10:33 AM
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WR in the first rd.

Go interior o line mid rounds.

Saints need better back ups on that offensive line though.

AsylumGuido 01-11-2022 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 941582)
WR in the first rd.

Go interior o line mid rounds.

Saints need better back ups on that offensive line though.
There seems to be a shortage of quality offensive line talent these days. Especially those that remain healthy. Here's a link to the top 25 rated OT's coming into 2021 (PFF). It looks like an IR list. Five of the top seven missed considerable time.

DAVID BAKHTIARI, GREEN BAY PACKERS. ...
RYAN RAMCZYK, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS. ...
TERRON ARMSTEAD, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS. ...
RONNIE STANLEY, BALTIMORE RAVENS. ...
GARETT BOLLES, DENVER BRONCOS.

jeanpierre 01-11-2022 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 941576)
QB in the 1st round? You think the Ian Book era is over? I doubt this Pickett guy is anymore NFL ready than Book. Can the Saint have two project QB's on the roster at once? I'm not against drafting a QB every year as long as you don't have the absolute answer on the roster. Nine out of ten QB's that get signed out of college never become a factor in the NFL.
Kenny Pickett actually falls there in the first round? You bet your sweet arse...

jeanpierre 01-11-2022 12:08 PM
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I'd be very excited about this draft...

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K Major 01-11-2022 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 941596)
I'd be very excited about this draft...

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Drafting a QB in the SECOND round and a WR in the 3rd???

Hell to the naw.

saintfan 01-11-2022 12:34 PM
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The real question is will Coach move up or down. We all know he's going to deal picks...

AsylumGuido 01-11-2022 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 941595)
Kenny Pickett actually falls there in the first round? You bet your sweet arse...
So, in that case would you be willing to "cut bait" with Book or keep both as project QB's? We'd still need a veteran capable of starting since we can still "win now" with our current nucleus.

ChrisXVI 01-11-2022 05:55 PM
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saintfan 01-11-2022 06:02 PM
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Man that sucks. If Alabama was ever going to win, they weren't going to after he went down. Hope the kid has a speedy recovery.

Rsanders24 01-11-2022 11:43 PM
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No more drafting project QBs. We have too many other need that we have to fill through the draft. Book should have been a 6th-7th Rd pick.

No QB before 6th rd. I don’t think there is a starting QB in this year’s draft.

I wish we could keep Armstead but it is what it is…some team is going to drop a bag on him. I don’t know what the contingency plan is but Ramz needs to stay at RT. I think he is better suited for RT than LT.

Rugby Saint II 01-12-2022 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 941599)
So, in that case would you be willing to "cut bait" with Book or keep both as project QB's? We'd still need a veteran capable of starting since we can still "win now" with our current nucleus.
We just signed Bortles to a futures contract but I doubt that he's got much of a future in New Orleans.

K Major 01-12-2022 09:12 AM
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Bortles will be a good camp “arm” and get you through OTA’s and training camp.

I don’t expect the Saints to resign Trevor S.

Rell&Gold 01-12-2022 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 940756)
MT won’t have me retracting anything no matter what he does next year. Fact is he acted selfishly and screwed his teammates, coaches, and fans THIS SEASON. The team likely would have 1-2 more wins if he had not have acted the way he did and would be solidly in the playoffs rather than needing help from the lambs. Dude is making top WR money so he should act
like a pro.
Once again thats your OPINION on what took place those are your FEELINGS you are absolutely entitled to it. I just dont know enough about the situation to have such a strong opinion on a mans professionalism and character. The setback caused him not to play this year whether or not that could have been avoided with surgery we will never know but others will say otherwise. Im not butt hurt over it Saints seemingly dont see it as a big deal at the moment....you should want MT healthy and ready to go thats it...he only makes the team better...Once hes back making plays your tone will change

K Major 01-12-2022 07:16 PM
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I'll be curious to see how far Jameson & his teammate John Metchie fall in the draft. Both 1st round prospects, both torn ACL injuries against Georgia.

Unfortunate.

The good news is that both are young, so hopefully, they'll recover 100%.

ChrisXVI 01-12-2022 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 941697)
I'll be curious to see how far Jameson & his teammate John Metchie fall in the draft. Both 1st round prospects, both torn ACL injuries against Georgia.

Unfortunate.

The good news is that both are young, so hopefully, they'll recover 100%.
I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if a team like the Chiefs or Titans take Jameson Williams at the end of the first round.

Boston Saint 01-12-2022 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 941696)
Once again thats your OPINION on what took place those are your FEELINGS you are absolutely entitled to it. I just dont know enough about the situation to have such a strong opinion on a mans professionalism and character. The setback caused him not to play this year whether or not that could have been avoided with surgery we will never know but others will say otherwise. Im not butt hurt over it Saints seemingly dont see it as a big deal at the moment....you should want MT healthy and ready to go thats it...he only makes the team better...Once hes back making plays your tone will change
Sure it’s my opinion and yours doesn’t match mine. It’s also your opinion that the front office isn’t “butt hurt” about how he screwed them. There doesn’t seem to be any disagreement that he did not maintain contact with the team and his late surgery timing hit the team out of the blue. But one thing that is not an opinion is that nothing Thomas does from here on out is going to change my view that he was selfish and backstabbed the team THIS SEASON. I’ll feel that way no matter if he sets more receiving records and leads the Saints to a SB victory NEXT season. That’s a tune I won’t change.

saintsfan1976 01-12-2022 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 941698)
I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if a team like the Chiefs or Titans take Jameson Williams at the end of the first round.
Are you kidding? We L O V E drafting injured players in round one!!!

saintfan 01-12-2022 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 941699)
Sure it’s my opinion and yours doesn’t match mine. It’s also your opinion that the front office isn’t “butt hurt” about how he screwed them. There doesn’t seem to be any disagreement that he did not maintain contact with the team and his late surgery timing hit the team out of the blue. But one thing that is not an opinion is that nothing Thomas does from here on out is going to change my view that he was selfish and backstabbed the team THIS SEASON. I’ll feel that way no matter if he sets more receiving records and leads the Saints to a SB victory NEXT season. That’s a tune I won’t change.
You know, I don't remember what Keyshawn said word for word - one of those sports debate shows - not Skip and Shannon...anyway I saw him explaining things from MTs perspective, and I can remember thinking, "well, ya know, he's kinda got a point there...."

So who knows? Not me. Coach says they're cool.

I just think that we're a whole lot better with MT. I think at least a couple WRs I have been so hard on might suck a lot less with a real playmaker like MT on the field.

And what about over-using Kamara or is that just me?

And our o-line? I know that ain't just me.

I'm already excited about the draft though. We may be about to move on from some people who have big shoes to fill. Key moves on both sides of the ball.

Would be fun to watch Kyler Murry win a SB.

:bng:

K Major 01-13-2022 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 941704)
You know, I don't remember what Keyshawn said word for word - one of those sports debate shows - not Skip and Shannon...anyway I saw him explaining things from MTs perspective, and I can remember thinking, "well, ya know, he's kinda got a point there...."

So who knows? Not me. Coach says they're cool.

I just think that we're a whole lot better with MT. I think at least a couple WRs I have been so hard on might suck a lot less with a real playmaker like MT on the field.


I'm already excited about the draft though. We may be about to move on from some people who have big shoes to fill. Key moves on both sides of the ball.

Would be fun to watch Kyler Murry win a SB.

:bng:
Agreed.

Side note - I was all wrong on Kyler. Used to watch him here while in High School (Allen) win 3 consecutive 6A Texas State titles but all I would come away with saying is “boy he’s tiny & too small for the SEC/NFL”.

Can’t measure heart and desire.

neugey 01-13-2022 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 941708)
Agreed.

Side note - I was all wrong on Kyler. Used to watch him here while in High School (Allen) win 3 consecutive 6A Texas State titles but all I would come away with saying is “boy he’s tiny & too small for the SEC/NFL”.

Can’t measure heart and desire.

It will probably be next year or the year after, but Deuce Vaughn from Kansas State is basically the next Darren Sproles and we should have him on the board.

K Major 01-13-2022 08:04 AM
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Kenyon Green - OL TX A&M

He’s versatile and a bully. Last olineman we drafted from Aggieland turned out all right 😉.

jeanpierre 01-13-2022 02:51 PM
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Rell&Gold 01-13-2022 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 941699)
Sure it’s my opinion and yours doesn’t match mine. It’s also your opinion that the front office isn’t “butt hurt” about how he screwed them. There doesn’t seem to be any disagreement that he did not maintain contact with the team and his late surgery timing hit the team out of the blue. But one thing that is not an opinion is that nothing Thomas does from here on out is going to change my view that he was selfish and backstabbed the team THIS SEASON. I’ll feel that way no matter if he sets more receiving records and leads the Saints to a SB victory NEXT season. That’s a tune I won’t change.
Every football player and person is selfish think if money wasnt invovled they would play for your entertainment? but the more selfish people here might be the fans ...MT was your guy and it hurt your feeling or at least your perspective on him....was he selfish when he went out there and played on an already injured foot to help Drew Brees and the Team win? One might actually say that attempt made an already injured ankle worse. But you hold on to that

jeanpierre 01-13-2022 07:08 PM
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Rell&Gold 01-13-2022 07:42 PM
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18. Treylon Burks
49. Zion Johnson
102. George Pickens
117. Trae Barry
139. John Ridgeway
160. D'Eriq King
196. Nick Cross
214. Donovan Jennings
236. Malik Vann

Drafted based off PFN Draft Simulator Needs of Saints...I Did some test runs with trades before I got to this didn't really like the value in some of them due to the talent left on the board but I think I cover everything need wise I dont have a clue who any of the players are outside of Treylon and Pickens

jeanpierre 01-13-2022 07:59 PM
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jeanpierre 01-13-2022 08:09 PM
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jeanpierre 01-13-2022 08:21 PM
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Rell&Gold 01-13-2022 09:06 PM
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26. Treylon Burks(WR)
49. Carson Strong(QB)
58. Sean Rhyan(OT)
102. Alec Pierce(WR)
117. Tyler Davis(DT)
139. Cade Mays(OG)
160. James Cook(RB)
196. Matt Bedford(OG)
217. Cj Verdell(RB)
236. Allie Green IV(CB)

jeanpierre 01-14-2022 04:53 AM
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jeanpierre 01-14-2022 05:17 AM
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Remembered this tough run vs South Carolina to get the first and goal...

jeanpierre 01-14-2022 05:43 AM
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Upgrade over Vannett...

jeanpierre 01-14-2022 05:44 AM
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My favorite FB, and he played at Purdue which has been good to us...

jeanpierre 01-14-2022 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 941795)
26. Treylon Burks(WR)
49. Carson Strong(QB)
58. Sean Rhyan(OT)
102. Alec Pierce(WR)
117. Tyler Davis(DT)
139. Cade Mays(OG)
160. James Cook(RB)
196. Matt Bedford(OG)
217. Cj Verdell(RB)
236. Allie Green IV(CB)
Seeing Burks going as the No. 1 WR; the fact that Jameson Williams had to transfer to get playing time is being scrutinized...


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