Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 970367) Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling?

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970385) https://twitter.com/bobbyr2613/statu...35942117756930

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 970409) The spells it out fairly well. https://twitter.com/JohnJHendrix/sta...72012451123202

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970427) Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place. :bng:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970427) Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place. :bng:

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970433) China doll. His reliability is worse than Teron Armstead. Constantly being hobbled and you can't count up games played. Edit - I looked it up :rolleyes:. Played 11 games in 2022 & 6 in 2021. 2023 cap hit: 18,371,000. Savings if released before June 1 - $1,387,000 Savings if released after June 1 - $11,825,000

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970448) :awe: Hurst is a decent backup. And we do have the rookies from last year. But we need some beef. Post June 1 cut could be a move the Saints make.

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INDIANAPOLIS -- Saints general manager Mickey Loomis met with some local members of the media on Wednesday to talk about the state of the team and a wide range of topics. Here's some of my biggest takeaways from the Scouting Combine in talking with him.

GOOD MEETING WITH DEREK CARR: "We had a good visit and he's going through his process and we're going through our process, and we'll see what happens."

Carr is very much in-play for New Orleans, and he appears to be their top priority to figure out. To be plain and simple, it is their top play and quarterback remains their most important position to figure out.

DRAFT PHILOSOPHY ON QUARTERBACKS: Loomis said balancing the conversation with players like Carr and then evaluating in the draft means you're just looking at everyone, with the exception being if you were in the top of the draft.

Loomis said, "When you're late in the draft, or even later rounds, there's nothing that prevents you from signing a free agent quarterback and drafting one. Look, we're in the business of collecting good players and collecting quarterbacks."

Loomis added that it's just the normal process that the Saints have always spent a good amount of time evaluating quarterbacks, even in the prime of Drew Brees' career. "We just didn't end up having a lot of opportunities to draft guys that we liked, you know, at the point where we had the pick available."

Carr isn't viewed as a short-term solution by the Saints either, as Loomis mentioned and Allen also agreed.

"I think if we were lucky enough to get him, I think he's a long-term solution. About as long as if you had a draft pick and hit on it right away, although you still got to re-sign them at some point."

Loomis was asked about the scenario and possibility of having a third-round grade on a quarterback and then possibly having to take them in the second round to get their guy at the position. He said, "I think what Jeff (Ireland) and our scouts do a good job of is grading guys where you're available to take them."

Loomis said that they consider that and factor that in to the grade, but the team isn't looking to take a guy who might be graded No. 315 overall and take them in the top of the second round. He also said that he believes quarterbacks, in particular, are overdrafted. He also added that the evolution of how college offenses run, like a spread offense, makes it harder to evaluate.

DRAFT CLASS VALUE: "I feel like initially there's a lot of good receivers. There's a good group of tight ends, that's just my initial reaction."

Both Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allen mentioned that it was still very early in the process, and Allen said that the team was just starting to get the bulk their work in here.

ACQUIRING A FIRST ROUND PICK: "I wouldn't say it was important for us to necessarily have a first-round pick this year. Important thing was to get a first-round pick and then something (for Sean Payton)." Loomis added that it's nice to have one going into the draft and be in the mix, but wished it was Pick No. 12 instead of 29.

He envisions getting a good player that can compete for play time. The team will go through their mock process to have 5-8 names that they believe will be available and do more work on that particular group of players that they know won't be available. Loomis pointed out the team getting Ryan Ramczyk at No. 32.

RUNNING BACK OUTLOOK: The Saints haven't drafted a ton of running backs over the past few years, but it's not because they haven't wanted to.

"In particular, the last couple of years we had some guys targeted and they went, and then you're not dropping down too far to justify taking the guy in that round."

Loomis said the Saints went into last year and the year before with the intent of drafting a running back. He said the middle rounds made the most sense, but there was a running back that was not worth the pick or there was a player in another position that was graded so much higher that the team never expected to get and they would draft them.

The uncertainty of Alvin Kamara's case isn't necessarily a factor going forward, but the Saints want to get another running back, whether that's in free agency or in the draft, or both.

EVALUATING DENNIS ALLEN: The Saints had an evaluation process a little later after the season concluded, and Loomis talked about his first season as the team's head coach.

"Look, I think there were some really good things. There's things that were out of our control, his control, primarily the injuries. So, there were some really good things and some things that we've talked about that we collectively have to do better. But, we don't have any reservations about our choice as head coach."

HBCU/SMALLER SCHOOL SCOUTING IMPORTANCE: Loomis was asked about if there was more of a scouting emphasis in HBCU or smaller schools from their growth over the past several years, but mentioned that the scouting department has always focused on this area.

"I think for us, our guys have always done a really good job. They pride themselves on on finding somebody from a smaller school, they just do. I mean, Jahri Evans, Jermon Bushrod. We've had a good history of of finding guys at the smaller schools. So, I don't know that it's any different. But we've been lucky enough for the last two years to have that HBCU Legacy Bowl in New Orleans, and so we get a little closer look at some of their prospects, but I think we've done a good job in the small school area. It's an emphasis that Jeff (Ireland) makes, and we've been fortunate enough to get some guys.

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970617) https://twitter.com/bobbyr2613/statu...45278833876997

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 970634) I just saw some media that stated the Saints are going to try to work on another restructure for MT to keep him.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 970634) I just saw some media that stated the Saints are going to try to work on another restructure for MT to keep him.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970637) Rez is MT even healthy? It's been so long that I can't even recall his last & latest injury. At this point, he's an "idea". He's missed 80% of games over the last 3 seasons & suited up in only 3 last year. 50/50 he returns to NOLA. IMO these tough cuts should have been made last year. 99.9% of us on B&g realize that this Saints team isn't a true contender. It's time to get this squad back in order & hope to land a QB for the future. There is going to be pain in 2023. Plant some good seeds for the 2024 coaching staff because highly unlikely Dennis will be around.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 970638) I’m not sure. He should be on track to be. I’m hoping he is and I’d like to keep him.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 970640) Well, rez, I guess that there has to be 1,998 others here that are convinced that there's no way the Saints can be contenders according to post to which you just replied. LOL! That's assuming you and I are the only ones that believe the Saints can "contend".

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970698) https://youtu.be/6ImpB8V-C2w

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 970699) You're not the only ones who believe this team can make some noise next season. BUT... a LOT of things need to go their way. As a long time Who Dat, I am a realist when I think of the odds of that ish happening! :bng:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 970634) I just saw some media that stated the Saints are going to try to work on another restructure for MT to keep him.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 970709) True Dat. A lot of things need to go our way. *Team health * Signing/drafting better depth at every position *Sign Carr/drafting Hendon Hooker *More creative play calling on offense using Kamara, Shaheed, and Taysom Hill *A run stuffing disruptive DT/pass rushing speedy DE * Free safety/strong safety *Signing/drafting an OG to replace Peat, the Pillsbury dough boy, with a mauler on the line *Draft/sign a 50/50 possession receiver to replace Michael Thomas *Draft/sign a receiving TE and use the two tight end set more *Draft/sign a power back to compliment Kamara and one to eventually replace him That's an awful lot of things that need to go our way. The front office is still in the win now mode but most teams in a win now mode don't have that many holes to fill or questions to answer. I'm not saying it can't be done but it's a long listof needs to fill. Good luck Mickey.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 970712) When we drafted MT I told my twin brother that he was going to sell a lot of jerseys and for a nice change I was right. He outplayed his first contract and was an amazing impact player before his initial injury. His uncle, Keyshawn Johnson trained and prepared him well to succeed in the NFL. He came in running polished routes and looking like a pro day one. MT didn't start acting like a Diva until after his injury and it's possible he just wanted to stay relevant. After can't call Mike refused contact with the Saints coaches and training staff it left a bad taste in most fans mouths. Although, I don't think too many knowledgeable people have faith in the Saints doctors, and rightfully so with misdiagnoses being the norm rather than the exception. I used to sell medical equipment to Ochsner and the only dirtier hospital I've ever been in was the VA, which is filthy and needs immediate attention. Anyway, upon further reflection, I'm not as upset as I used to be about his not returning phone calls to the training staff. He was rushed back prematurely after the medical staff cleared him to play. When he returned he re injured himself potentially jeopardizing his career. The injury kept him off the field for a couple of years while rehabbing and when he came back strong he was a weapon for Jameis Winston before he injured his other foot and then missed the rest of the season. MT has been paid well to rehab. I hope that he clears all medicals and can play at a high level again. If we restructure his contract to keep him I would hope it is an incentive driven contract. I would hate to pay him again just to have another injury sideline him. He is not the same conditioned athlete that he was and injury tend to creep in with older players who are just getting back in the game.

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 970784) Winston is gone and Thomas, without a dramatic restructure will be traded or cut! Keep Dalton for a small contract and draft a QB to learn from both vets! We need a good RB and re-sign JJ!!!

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970809) https://twitter.com/RossJacksonNOLA/...50800498229250