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AsylumGuido 03-02-2021 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 915337)
Well, Brett Favre had large hands and had a high fumble rate...

While I don't dispute it as a factor, ball security can be coached up...

And Joe Burrow, No. 1 pick last year, has small hands which he pokes fun at himself...

https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status...31176307130368

ESPN.com | Why the NFL combine built a myth around QB hand size, a measurement that doesn't mean anything
Favre had 166 fumbles in 298 starts (55.7%). Vick - 98/115 (85.2%).

jeanpierre 03-02-2021 11:47 AM
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jeanpierre 03-02-2021 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 915340)
Favre had 166 fumbles in 298 starts (55.7%). Vick - 98/115 (85.2%).
Vick stats don't surprise me considering he held the ball more through plays (running, scrambling/passing) than most...

Rugby Saint II 03-02-2021 01:19 PM
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Johnson Bademosi has taken his talents to play for the New Orleans Gold Rugby Team. They are a highly competitive team and I'm good friends with the owner who I played rugby against for years.

jeanpierre 03-02-2021 01:30 PM
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Well, we do have trade history with Meyami...

FinSaint 03-02-2021 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 915338)
Ah, that English language-barrier thing... ;)
Oh, I thought you were a native speaker...

AsylumGuido 03-02-2021 03:03 PM
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I just heard on Moving the Chains that Malcolm Brown is on the trading block. They tend to think there won't be any takers and teams will just wait for him to be cut.

jeanpierre 03-02-2021 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 915353)
I just heard on Moving the Chains that Malcolm Brown is on the trading block. They tend to think there won't be any takers and teams will just wait for him to be cut.


jeanpierre 03-02-2021 03:06 PM
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Re: Malcolm Brown, origin source appears to be Ian Rapoport, who agents use to get the word out...

ChrisXVI 03-02-2021 03:17 PM
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Why would anyone trade for a nose tackle?

gosaints1 03-02-2021 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 915357)
Why would anyone trade for a nose tackle?
He’s a good one. imho, he is the largest reason why the run defense was so stout. I don’t think he gets credit enough, and with that said, I also don’t think he will be heavily recruited. I hope he winds back up here.

jeanpierre 03-02-2021 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 915357)
Why would anyone trade for a nose tackle?
Known quantity. Top 5 NT. Under Contract at a Cap Friendly Number. Checks Box for Run Defense.

jeanpierre 03-02-2021 04:51 PM
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jeanpierre 03-02-2021 08:08 PM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2021 08:16 AM
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AsylumGuido 03-03-2021 11:31 AM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2021 01:53 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-03-2021 03:41 PM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2021 04:00 PM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2021 04:03 PM
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Onyemata restructure, release of veteran TEs gains ~$7M cap space...

AsylumGuido 03-03-2021 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 915426)
Onyemata restructure, release of veteran TEs gains ~$7M...

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...30654988120067
The only thing gained by the release of one of those TE's is the distance from fumbles, dropped passes, and mishandled catches that turn into interceptions.

AsylumGuido 03-03-2021 04:18 PM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2021 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 915427)
The only thing gained by the release of one of those TE's is the distance from fumbles, dropped passes, and mishandled catches that turn into interceptions.
release of one of those TE's? Why not just name the one?

jeanpierre 03-03-2021 10:38 PM
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FinSaint 03-04-2021 03:29 AM
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I think Trautman will be a best and I do like the fact that he might be further up the TE depth chart come next season as that'll be good for his development.

jeanpierre 03-04-2021 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 915447)
I think Trautman will be a best and I do like the fact that he might be further up the TE depth chart come next season as that'll be good for his development.
In my mind, Trautman, by the end of his rookie season, was right there with Josh Hill at the top of the depth chart...

Jared Cook was just incapable of adapting and receiving criticism on how he needed to adjust in the Saints offense...

And then there was the inability to get open on his own, and a few costly turnovers...

AsylumGuido 03-04-2021 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 915439)
release of one of those TE's? Why not just name the one?
Naming wasn't required. Only one of those two provided any cap relief (Josh Hill) and the other (Jared Cook) was obviously the one with the issues mentioned.

Personally, I expect Josh Hill to be re-signed at a more cap friendly rate later.

jeanpierre 03-04-2021 08:59 AM
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jeanpierre 03-04-2021 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 915457)
Naming wasn't required. Only one of those two provided any cap relief (Josh Hill) and the other (Jared Cook) was obviously the one with the issues mentioned.

Personally, I expect Josh Hill to be re-signed at a more cap friendly rate later.
Josh Hill has been a soldier and frankly there's a double-standard on Payton's part in making sure guys that put it all out there for the team get commensurately compensated...

I get it's a business, but that's a convenient excuse for Payton et al, and yet we overspend on others who are useless or are a distraction in the clubhouse...

lee909 03-04-2021 12:30 PM
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Reckon Hill might be back on a short deal myself.

lee909 03-04-2021 12:32 PM
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Still lots of talk about the Seahawks maybe letting Wilson go.
I think he stays another year before he goes unless they get a monster offer because of the 22ml dead money. For me if thats the case, you know Wilson agent will be letting teams know this. If its the case you just run with Taysum next year and save the money you would pay Winston and take a proper run at him next year

ChrisXVI 03-04-2021 01:41 PM
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FinSaint 03-04-2021 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 915498)
Brees hasn't retired yet.

jeanpierre 03-04-2021 02:57 PM
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jeanpierre 03-06-2021 11:02 AM
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blackangold 03-06-2021 11:13 AM
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Anyone know the current cap situation after all the moves made?

jeanpierre 03-06-2021 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 915578)
Anyone know the current cap situation after all the moves made?
Adding it up from the tweets I've read, we're just under $45M under the cap...

jeanpierre 03-06-2021 11:18 AM
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K Major 03-06-2021 11:25 AM
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https://saintsreport.com/proxy.php?i...9949995b6c4d96

saintsfan1976 03-06-2021 05:52 PM
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Jeff Duncan tweeted there's zero chance Saints get Wilson. I figure that increased our chances 20%


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