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ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 916646)
I’m thinking the same thing Chris. All the fans here are excited about it though, so one side is wrong.
I can understand being excited about it. It’s always exciting signing new players... especially when your team stinks as they do now. They overspent on mediocre players though. They gave Nelson Agholor so much guaranteed money when better WR’s were out there signing for so much less. Plus, they just spent two high draft picks on TE’s and had to spend big on two different TE’s this offseason.

jeanpierre 03-19-2021 10:16 AM
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jeanpierre 03-19-2021 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916645)
Man... the Patriots really botched free agency. They gave big contracts to meh players to compensate for their horrible drafting.
Never underestimate Belichick...

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916653)
Never underestimate Belichick...
I think we’ve learned by now that the “Patriot way” was really the Tom Brady way and ol’ Bill is massively overrated.

Boston Saint 03-19-2021 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916656)
I think we’ve learned by now that the “Patriot way” was really the Tom Brady way and ol’ Bill is massively overrated.
Not to piss off Oak by repeating a line, but we will see. Pats lost a couple really close games last year and easily could have been 10-6.

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 916658)
Not to piss off Oak by repeating a line, but we will see. Pats lost a couple really close games last year and easily could have been 10-6.
Meanwhile Tom Brady went to a new team and won the Super Bowl again.

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 02:17 PM
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The Broncos re-signed S Justin Simmons to 4 years/$61 million. That pretty much sets the groundwork for the new deal Marcus Williams will be looking for.

Boston Saint 03-19-2021 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916659)
Meanwhile Tom Brady went to a new team and won the Super Bowl again.
True enough

The Dude 03-19-2021 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916659)
Meanwhile Tom Brady went to a new team and won the Super Bowl again.
Brady had the benefit of a better all around team from top to bottom. Don’t think you can make that assessment until a little time goes by. We are likely to suck too for a few years until we fill some holes. Do we blame that on Payton or on the fact we are having to take our lumps due to years of salary cap manipulation? We go 10-6 as it stands right now and I’ll consider the season a success regardless of who’s under center.
I’ll say it again, with our current roster we would have a tough time if Brees was still in his prime. About like those 7-9 seasons when our defense was so atrocious. If we couldn’t do it with a HOF qb back then I think we are gonna have just as tough time with Winston or Hill the way our roster sits right now. In fact it may be so bad that we would have a tough time with just about any Qb in the league not named Mahommes, Watson, or Brady.
Bottom line is we really need to luck out in the draft and UDFA market.

ChrisXVI 03-19-2021 08:30 PM
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Ouch... should’ve been us.

jeanpierre 03-20-2021 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916656)
I think we’ve learned by now that the “Patriot way” was really the Tom Brady way and ol’ Bill is massively overrated.
One season...

jeanpierre 03-20-2021 08:58 AM
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And no one has signed Sheldon Rankins... :???:

K Major 03-20-2021 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916688)
And no one has signed Sheldon Rankins... :???:
Bring him back.

At worst, he's solid depth.

ChrisXVI 03-20-2021 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916688)
And no one has signed Sheldon Rankins... :???:
Yeah that’s a weird one. We could certainly use him if he wants to do a cheaper one year deal.

ChrisXVI 03-20-2021 02:55 PM
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In a make or break year for their young QB, you can’t say the Giants aren’t putting him in the best position to succeed. Plus, they’ll get Saquon Barkley back.

jeanpierre 03-21-2021 01:52 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-21-2021 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916740)
Such a good signing for them. Rankins next to Quinnen Williams with Carl Lawson at DE now too.

AsylumGuido 03-21-2021 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 916613)
This board is dead lol.
There was an issue with the site's certificate which made those of us that use certain securities easy access. I've also been on the road to Round Top, Texas with little or no internet available for days.

lee909 03-21-2021 04:20 PM
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Goodell currently working out how to take away that comp pick.

K Major 03-21-2021 06:38 PM
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A couple of key injuries really hurt Rankins production. I can understand the Saints allowing him to walk. Guess it's a smart move on our part but I wish Sheldon well in NY. He's a quality guy and was a nice player in New Orleans.

The 2021 run defense will have a few new faces that is for certain.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 06:14 AM
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NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: Average
Best signing: S Marcus Williams

Franchise-tagging Marcus Wiliams seemed nearly impossible with New Orleans facing a $100 million salary cap deficit coming into the offseason even after the retirement of QB Drew Brees. But Williams’ 89.7 grade since 2019 ranks second at the safety position, so it makes sense to do whatever it takes to keep him. General manager Mickey Loomis has never let the salary cap get in the way of a good time, after all.

The Saints were also able to bring back QB Jameis Winston on a one-year flier after just 11 pass attempts in 2020 kept his market quiet — perhaps by design. Considering Andy Dalton and Ryan Fitzpatrick both received contracts with $10 million base values, signing the 27-year-old former No. 1 overall pick for $5.5 million may have a few teams feeling foolish if Sean Payton can work his magic and revive Winston’s career. Nevertheless, the Saints are still just above water and don’t have a CB2 on the roster; their wide receiver options beyond Michael Thomas are Tre’Quan Smith and Marquez Callaway, and 2020 draft pick Adam Trautman is their top tight end. Beyond the starting spots — or lack thereof — New Orleans also doesn’t have depth along the defensive line or at linebacker.

The Saints managed to prove once and for all that the salary cap is not a true constraint if you don’t want it to be, but poor play from the quarterback position or a key injury in 2021 could torpedo this season. Furthermore, the same problem essentially exists for 2022 given how much money New Orleans has had to push into the future just to be cap compliant for the upcoming season.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916766)
A couple of key injuries really hurt Rankins production. I can understand the Saints allowing him to walk. Guess it's a smart move on our part but I wish Sheldon well in NY. He's a quality guy and was a nice player in New Orleans.

The 2021 run defense will have a few new faces that is for certain.
At the end of the day, Onyemata simply out-played him, was available, and reset his ceiling...

National talking heads don't say enough, but when you talk to teams that have to deal with the Saints defense, that conversation starts with Big O...

K Major 03-23-2021 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916853)
At the end of the day, Onyemata simply out-played him, was available, and reset his ceiling...
You are right. The NFL is a production driven league & being available on Sundays.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 03:25 PM
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K Major 03-23-2021 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916873)
3 former Saints now with the Bengals.


Vonn Bell, Trey Hendrickson and now Eli Apple.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916875)
3 former Saints now with the Bengals.


Vonn Bell, Trey Hendrickson and now Eli Apple.
Wish them all the best with Joe Burreaux and WhoDeyNation, copy-cat'ers of the WhoDatNation...

Apparently still copy-cat'n...

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 09:42 PM
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jeanpierre 03-23-2021 09:47 PM
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jeanpierre 03-23-2021 09:50 PM
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K Major 03-24-2021 07:55 AM
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Still a hole at CB #2 for New Orleans ...

We'll sign a 2nd tier vet, then draft a 1 round stud ... I hope :( .

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916903)
Still a hole at CB #2 for New Orleans ...

We'll sign a 2nd tier vet, then draft a 1 round stud ... I hope :( .
That'd be what I'd like to see, if the value at CB2 is there late in Round 1...

Audiotom 03-24-2021 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916910)
That'd be what I'd like to see, if the value at CB2 is there late in Round 1...
We need linebacker in q bigger way and less viable ones with pro talent

lee909 03-24-2021 10:58 AM
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Think we will see Kwon back on a team friendly deal later on if his rehab is going well. Can't see him getting any good offers with the injury so going back to a team you know you fit in makes sense

K Major 03-24-2021 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 916914)
Think we will see Kwon back on a team friendly deal later on if his rehab is going well. Can't see him getting any good offers with the injury so going back to a team you know you fit in makes sense
I read on Canal Street Chronicles Kwon may not even be 100% healthy or pass a physical until mid season. He was good while it lasted however his health is a gamble.

I'd look elsewhere for LB help and also the draft.

Rugby Saint II 03-24-2021 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916916)
I read on Canal Street Chronicles Kwon may not even be 100% healthy or pass a physical until mid season. He was good while it lasted however his health is a gamble.

I'd look elsewhere for LB help and also the draft.
I believe that he is a perfect fit for the Saints system and if we can get him back after midseason that would give us a big boost in the playoffs. Kwon is a dynamic player who makes everyone around him better. Yes, I want him back for the right price.

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 916913)
We need linebacker in q bigger way and less viable ones with pro talent
We'll circle back to this when we regress to giving up 3rd and 17's...

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 916914)
Think we will see Kwon back on a team friendly deal later on if his rehab is going well? Can't see him getting any good offers with the injury so going back to a team you know you fit in makes sense
I sure hope so; another rival may ****-block us to signing him...

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916916)
I read on Canal Street Chronicles Kwon may not even be 100% healthy or pass a physical until mid season. He was good while it lasted however his health is a gamble.

I'd look elsewhere for LB help and also the draft.
Kwon probably will be cleared by Q1 of the season, but it'll be a full year, if ever, that he's back to running and gunning...

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 05:53 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-24-2021 07:51 PM
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A blocking TE to take Josh Hill’s place.

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 08:30 PM
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