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jeanpierre 03-24-2021 08:35 PM
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TE Nick Vannett, the Ohio St, 6' 6", 260 lbs

ChrisXVI 03-25-2021 02:56 PM
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lee909 03-25-2021 06:25 PM
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Read he played well last year. Makes sense, vet to fill the spot and not force your hand come draft day

ChrisXVI 03-25-2021 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917018)
Read he played well last year. Makes sense, vet to fill the spot and not force your hand come draft day
He’s adequate. Not as good as Janoris Jenkins but just kind of average. It would be a great signing in terms of not forcing us to address a need in the first round of the draft which is always a bad idea.

SmashMouth 03-25-2021 09:55 PM
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jeanpierre 03-26-2021 09:12 AM
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jeanpierre 03-26-2021 04:20 PM
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Hmmm...

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 08:54 AM
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List of available cornerbacks...

WalterFootball.com | 2021 NFL Free Agents: Cornerbacks

K Major 03-27-2021 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917167)
Not a lot left. 2nd tier and older guys past their prime.

I wanted Breeshard Breeland 4 years ago ... outside of Sherman, I don't see any Kris Richard connections or guys he's familiar with.

Saints desperately need to draft a CB next month.

And then there's the Lattimore situation :rolleyes:.

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 10:47 AM
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Surely Loomis could find $7M on a one year deal for Nelson or Dunbar?

I'd even go Heyward on a one year $7M deal right now...

But a 33yo Sherman who's clearly breaking down?!? That makes no sense...

K Major 03-27-2021 11:00 AM
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I really believed Awuzie was our "splash" signing to replace Janoris but the FO wasn't willing to pay what the Bengals ultimately paid for his services.

K Major 03-27-2021 11:25 AM
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T.J. Carrie visited the Saints

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ed-the-saints/

lee909 03-27-2021 05:23 PM
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I know its not a popular opinion but i think next year is going ton be ugly.
The strength of the defense was on the defensive lines depth being able to constantly rotate and keep freesh. Thats gone and once again there is little opposite Cam Jordan and nothing at CB outside of Lattimore who looks likely to get some sort of suspension.

Again on the offense outside of Thomas and Kamara its all hope X steps up. Theres alot of holes to fill in the draft and little money.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2021 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917214)
I know its not a popular opinion but i think next year is going ton be ugly.
The strength of the defense was on the defensive lines depth being able to constantly rotate and keep freesh. Thats gone and once again there is little opposite Cam Jordan and nothing at CB outside of Lattimore who looks likely to get some sort of suspension.

Again on the offense outside of Thomas and Kamara its all hope X steps up. Theres alot of holes to fill in the draft and little money.
I really don't think that opinion is as unpopular as you think.

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917214)
I know its not a popular opinion but i think next year is going ton be ugly.
The strength of the defense was on the defensive lines depth being able to constantly rotate and keep freesh. Thats gone and once again there is little opposite Cam Jordan and nothing at CB outside of Lattimore who looks likely to get some sort of suspension.

Again on the offense outside of Thomas and Kamara its all hope X steps up. Theres alot of holes to fill in the draft and little money.
Look forward to change, rebirth, opportunity to reload...

lee909 03-27-2021 10:38 PM
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Look forward to change, rebirth, opportunity to reload...
Oh i am
I dont think its all doom and gloom as theres really good pieces on the roster. Im just worried they have damaged the long term prospects for short term stability with these extensions.

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917230)
Oh i am
I dont think its all doom and gloom as theres really good pieces on the roster. Im just worried they have damaged the long term prospects for short term stability with these extensions.
Well the reload should have taken place last season; Drew was set to retire after the anticipated Superbowl Run until they shat their hat vs the Rams at home...

We'd probably be in the mix for a QB1 at the top of an exciting QB draft right now...

I'd like to see Taysom get a legitimate shot at being the Saints QB1 and it not be handed to Player No. 2 by default of team politics...

Rugby Saint II 03-28-2021 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917233)
Well the reload should have taken place last season; Drew was set to retire after the anticipated Superbowl Run until they shat their hat vs the Rams at home...

We'd probably be in the mix for a QB1 at the top of an exciting QB draft right now...

I'd like to see Taysom get a legitimate shot at being the Saints QB1 and it not be handed to Player No. 2 by default of team politics...
To your first point I agree whole heartedly that we'd be looking at getting a QB in the draft because of a better draft slot.

To your second point I truly believe that Winston will win the job and earn the starting spot. Personally, I believe that Taysom has reached his ceiling as a QB but there is still room for growth in his joker role. I'm not a Winston fan but I'm willing to reevaluate him throughout the season.

jeanpierre 03-29-2021 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917195)
I really believed Awuzie was our "splash" signing to replace Janoris but the FO wasn't willing to pay what the Bengals ultimately paid for his services.
So why not bring in other CB2s if you know you've got to sign someone?

Fuller signed for less than expected and he'd taken CB2 off the draft need list...

jeanpierre 03-29-2021 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 917260)
To your first point I agree whole heartedly that we'd be looking at getting a QB in the draft because of a better draft slot.

To your second point I truly believe that Winston will win the job and earn the starting spot. Personally, I believe that Taysom has reached his ceiling as a QB but there is still room for growth in his joker role. I'm not a Winston fan but I'm willing to reevaluate him throughout the season.
This is where I'd never agree - Taysom had three (3) career starts after having not started at QB since college more than five years before...

Did everyone think he was suppose to be Drew Brees in his first start?

Has everyone forgotten Drew Brees was benched multiple times in his Chargers tenure?

Will agree that Jameis will be the starter and that has more to do with team locker room politics than play...

ChrisXVI 03-29-2021 10:49 AM
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K Major 03-29-2021 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917332)
Help me out XVI, weren't the Saints high on him coming out of the draft from a few years back? He's made a few nice plays while with the Chiefs and has also put Aaron Rodgers on his back a few times :p.

This could fill a hole left by Rankins.

Rugby Saint II 03-29-2021 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917311)
This is where I'd never agree - Taysom had three (3) career starts after having not started at QB since college more than five years before...

Did everyone think he was suppose to be Drew Brees in his first start?

Has everyone forgotten Drew Brees was benched multiple times in his Chargers tenure?

Will agree that Jameis will be the starter and that has more to do with team locker room politics than play...
That's the great thing about this scenario. We'll have an answer when we kick off the first game. Until then we can only speculate who Payton thinks has the higher ceiling and gives us the better chance to win. Please don't get me wrong I love me some Taysom but I feel like Winston will win the job.

Rugby Saint II 03-29-2021 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917332)
Who? Mid tier free agent?

ChrisXVI 03-29-2021 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917340)
Help me out XVI, weren't the Saints high on him coming out of the draft from a few years back? He's made a few nice plays while with the Chiefs and has also put Aaron Rodgers on his back a few times :p.

This could fill a hole left by Rankins.
Hard to remember... I recall them being really into Haason Reddick that year. The beat writers are saying we really liked Kpassagnon- specifically Ryan Nielsen.

jeanpierre 03-29-2021 03:15 PM
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jeanpierre 03-29-2021 03:48 PM
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jeanpierre 03-30-2021 02:50 PM
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Wow, Saints still not kicking the tires on any of these CBs?!?

dizzle88 03-30-2021 05:48 PM
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Wow, Saints still not kicking the tires on any of these CBs?!?

https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/sta...79540807839746
The team will use 1 or 2 draft picks to move up for a TE to convert to CB and then cut him before the season starts....

AsylumGuido 03-30-2021 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 917427)
The team will use 1 or 2 draft picks to move up for a TE to convert to CB and then cut him before the season starts....
... or not.

jeanpierre 03-30-2021 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 917427)
The team will use 1 or 2 draft picks to move up for a TE to convert to CB and then cut him before the season starts....
https://media.giphy.com/media/CoDp6NnSmItoY/giphy.gif

jeanpierre 03-30-2021 10:58 PM
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Larry Fitzgerald is still a free agent...

K Major 03-31-2021 09:26 AM
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Larry Fitzgerald is still a free agent...
I believe Fitz will give it one last geaux with a team that gives him the best chance at that ring before he retires. He was sooo close vs Steelers in that Super Bowl vs Steelers.

IMO Larry will be a first ballot HOF when he hangs em up. Nothing but class his entire career & one hell of a receiver.

jeanpierre 03-31-2021 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917453)
I believe Fitz will give it one last geaux with a team that gives him the best chance at that ring before he retires. He was sooo close vs Steelers in that Super Bowl vs Steelers.

IMO Larry will be a first ballot HOF when he hangs em up. Nothing but class his entire career & one hell of a receiver.
Well said...

jeanpierre 03-31-2021 01:29 PM
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jeanpierre 03-31-2021 06:09 PM
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jeanpierre 04-01-2021 07:39 AM
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Rugby Saint II 04-01-2021 12:24 PM
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Draft a rookie in the first or second round(first round preferably) and bring in one of those vets to help ease the transition for a rookie.

MarchingOn 04-01-2021 03:12 PM
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Our 6th round pick in the famour 2017 draft! Still in the NFL.

K Major 04-02-2021 09:46 AM
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TJ Carrie
Bashaud Breeland
AJ Bouye
Richard Sherman
Casey Heyward ...

Vets that are still available & possible options at #2 CB.


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