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Unless Chicago or the Raiders offer something that can't be turned round I doubt anyone will. The dead cap hit is massive. I think it will be a next year deal if he leaves.

He's fantastic and honestly I'd be more than happy with Dak if something isn't sorted there. But for me if the front office thinks soneone like Mac Jones is a franchise I would be very aggressive moving up if they are there in the 15/20 range. The scope a rookie QB deal gives you for future cap years is unreal.

If not I'd be looking at a one year deal for a QB now and looking again next year as it looks like either Dak or Wilson could hit the market. See how wants what out of the likes of Winston, Fitzmagic, Trubisky or even a trade for Minshew. Someone that either has huge upside or a steady hand. Worst thing would be to give a player a deal that might tie money next year if a top QB hits the market.

Not to be a doom merchant but my fear this year is the Defense taking a massive step back if Brown, Rankins and T Rex go from the front 4, that alot of depth/rotation and snaps lost, add that to Williams and it could be ugly.

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So this is where OTC currently has us which I expect there's about a day or two delay as they review the contract numbers publicly reported by the league office...

Note: Total Team Cap Space in red, upper right, just above the chart of players, contracts...

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As of this tweet at 2021/08/03 07:03, @JohnJHendrix has us at -$43,926,169 (that's over) with regards to the cap...

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Agreed bro.

Especially considering he's a underwhelming player that has been injured a lot as of late.

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It wouldn't surprise me to see Latavius Murray cut as well.

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Wonder if SP saw what I saw at that fateful practice at Tulane stadium. I've been dogging him since, not that he doesn't deserve it. Popeyes Sammiches are overrated.

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Cutting or trading Alexander will clear up 13. Sign lattimore and Ryan. That alone would put us under the cap

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I've heard some people saying the Saints are scrambling to get under the cap. They've known about the cap reduction since last July. They also know all of their options. The only unknown is the final cap number which should be coming out today or tomorrow.

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There are going to be a ton of veterans out there who will fall to the secondary free agent market because of the lowered cap. It will be possible to plug several holes at a budget price with proven players ready to hit the field. There will be more one year contracts at a minimal rates than ever before.

On the other hand, the draft will be more of a crapshoot than ever this season with players having opted out, players with limited playing time due to shortened seasons, no combine, limited attendance pro days, extremely limited face-to-face contact, no scout access to school personnel (coaches, trainers, counselors, etc.), limited post-season games, etc.

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Agree Guido. Someone (I think it was saintsfan) said Loomis cuts 30 mill from the cap for breakfast. I said a while back that we would get through it with minimal casualties. It’s time people realize and appreciate that we have become one of the best franchises in the league and realize Loomis has a clue on what he’s doing. I don’t care how many SBs we didn’t win, I like many others remember well the laughing stock years of paper bags. At one of my lowest points I told my father I though “We won’t ever win a SB. It will always go to Niners or Giants or Dallas or Pitt. One of the big named teams. We get screwed too much”. That was even after showing some promise with the Finks era.

Well, obviously I was wrong and, even though it’s only been one SB, that’s one more than a heck of a lot of teams have won in that time. And the team has never played so poorly as to have had a top 10 pick and they always were in playoff hunt until season end.

I’m excited for whatever happens next. Drew for a Year with a young drafted QB, great! Winston signed to a deal, great! Trade for a stud QB, great! Wait for a Darnold/GarrapLo/Trubiski/Rosen/Bridgewater/Fitzmagic to shake out, Great! I think SP and Loomis have a plan. And it’s likely better than the one Custard had!

Geaux Saints!

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Fast forward to 12:30 or so. Kind of sounds like Alex is all but done in New Orleans. Best of luck in Free Agency.

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There it is...

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Another FS on the FA Market...

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This is a logical way to lower the 2021 cap hits and push additional money forward. The cap is going to explode in a couple of years with the new broadcast contracts. Revenues may as much as double as compared to the last round. That means the cap can near double. Within a few years the annual cap can easily reach $350 million.

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I recently read that offloading Emmanuel Sanders would save 6M against the cap in a trade & Latavius would be a little over 2.4M.

Two very good Saints players we stand a chance to lose.

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But knowing we are willing to trade I would expect other teams to wait for the player to be released. They know the cap savings are the same for the Saints either way. Why give us something in return if they can get them at a lower market rate? While both were of value to us, neither demand a premium on the current reduced market. I fully expect both to be cut. Either or both could be re-signed however.

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Probably. Or a team may want to not take the chance of letting him hit FA and make a low round offer. BTW I read an article mentioning Mack, Bell, and Booker as replacements for Murray who all would be less than 2 million.

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I'm very interested to see what the market will look like for Marcus Williams. Many "experts" claim he will be in high demand once Free Agency opens on next week.

We shall see.

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We are going to be gutted by the time the season starts.

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Do you have any examples of those "insider" columnists' predictions of no rise in the 2022 cap? I must have missed them.

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As will 3/4th's of the league.

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So, I like Murray a lot. He would be my first choice as a 2nd back. But if he doesn’t want to play for 1-2 million range, there are apparently backs that will be available for that. Bell, Mack, Booker were three names I read about.

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I read that yesterday also, cap not expected to rise even with the mega tv deals coming, u know them greedy son of britches have to recoup there chickens


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I wonder if The Rock is paying attention to all of the NFL talent that is available. Revive the XFL?

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The cap is contractually (CBA) tied to revenues. The league can't share less than the agreed upon percentage. Were they referring to the 2021 cap? It shouldn't rise much more than the floor ($180 million) already determined. We may know that final figure later today. Most of the new contracts will become effective in 2023 and that is when the cap should skyrocket, but the league and the NFLPA can negotiate a proration (borrowing from future revenue) back into 2022.

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I suspect that most all of that talent will find its way back onto NFL rosters, albeit at a much reduced rate, but still FAR more than any other league can pay.

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Well, it may be moot now with the Dak Prescott contract...

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That OverTheCap article was written back in June of 2020 and gave an example of the cap being prorated smoothly with a gradual increase annually with borrowing from the future to begin with this year's (2021) cap. Since then the plan has been adjusted to allow a greater hit (lower cap) in 2021 thus allowing greater growth beginning next year (2022). That's the explosion which has been alluded to in recent days due to the huge new contracts expected to be signed very soon with the broadcast outlets.

The minimum cap has also been adjusted upward to $180 million since Schefter's tweet back in early February.

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How does this move impact the cap?

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Makes it harder
But you have to assume they are not far away in numbers after talking to his agent. Just stops him getting a deal elsewhere. Likely a place holder while they figure out terms