spkb25

no sir you are wrong, one player does not make a team. Moss did not do that by himself. If memory serves and I think it does the pats brought in 3 new wide outs last year, didn't they???

lsutigerfan

Without Tom Brady the Patriots are nothing Wes Welker was below average before Brady and Moss well we seen him with The Raiders this is like saying Jaime Martin could've guided us to the NFC Championship two years ago, Dorsey would make our Defense 100 times better therefore possibly a Superbowl visit.

BRSaintsFan

Try not to jump to conclusions so quick chief. No, it takes more than 1 player to take a team to the Super Bowl. It takes a puzzle of players. And if you have that puzzle and most of the pieces figured out, then it can take only 1 piece to take a team to the Super Bowl. With Moss the Pats are a Super Bowl team. Without him, they are bounced from the playoffs.

Try to think about what a DT actually does for the defense. In addition to the obvious of making tackles, they occupy blockers. If a blocker can shed a DT and get the second line of the defense, then the best LB in the league will struggle to make a play. But if you have a player than can penetrate and occupy blockers, then your LBs are free to pursue the ball. If a DT can penetrate the line, QBs no longer have a pocket to throw out of. They are forced to roll out to one side and throw on the run. This decreases accuracy, helps the corners as they do not have to cover as long, blows offensive plays as the designed routes are now blown, and take away half of the field as even the best QBs do not throw the ball across their body often.

No one player can make the other 10 players around them better like an impact DT.

spkb25

well lets not argue about d-line, o-line importance. To me there is no more important a position on the field. I think the game is still won and loss there. I absolutely agree that there are players that help teams reach a level that without them they would not have reached. I reserve those generally for the QB spot. I am of course speaking about players like brees, brady, and manning to name some. I think those teams are in trouble without those players.

Mind you chief the pats with moss sb record 0-1, without 3-0.

My point is this, does a player like moss assist the pats, yes. Does it hurt if they lose him, yes. Does it make or break them completely, no.

Saunders from indy might have a little more impact than moss, when put in perspective to their teams. Neither though destroys the teams they play for the way said players above would.

I have no issue getting dorsey if we are not mortgaging our future. I think though to stay at 10 still gets you a player that can help you and if you are wrong does not destroy your team this year and next. That is what you could be risking by trying to move from 10-2 and if you are wrong.

Your team stinks

gandhi1007

I don't think the Saints would be selling the farm by giving a 1st, 2nd, & a possible pick next year to get Dorsey....do you? If the price is to steep, they have already said they will stay at #10. They will not be letting Mike Ditka negotiate the trade. If the price is right, they will move up. To me....this is the best scenario for the organization. Dorsey may just be the piece of the puzzle that this team has been in search of for so long. Think of it....our LB group is improved, our offense is stellar, our CB's will benefit from the D-line's penetration, & the D-line will be very solid if not stellar.

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pakowitz

yes they did, but i guarentee if you take moss off that team, welker doesnt have the year he had... moss was doubled and tripled all year long opening holes all over for the other WRs